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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:31 pm

According to the BBC, Sultan Qaboos of Oman has died.

Sultan Qaboos bin Said Al Said of Oman, the Arab world's longest-serving ruler, has died aged 79.

"With great sorrow and deep sadness... the royal court mourns His Majesty Sultan Qaboos bin Said, who passed away on Friday," a court statement said.

Last month he returned home after undergoing medical checks and treatment in Belgium. There were reports he was suffering from cancer.

Sultan Qaboos was unmarried and had no heir or designated successor.

Three days of national mourning have been declared.

The sultan deposed his father in a bloodless coup with British support in 1970. Using its oil wealth, he then set Oman on a path to development.

According to the sultanate's Basic Statute, the Royal Family Council - comprising about 50 male members - should choose a new sultan within three days of the throne falling vacant.


I send my condolences to the people of Oman, and I hope that the Omani royal family will decide on a successor sooner rather than later. He has done quite a lot to improve Oman's economy, and his foreign policy is certainly something to be lauded, especially since he was able to play a big role in shaping that nuclear deal between the USA and Iran.

May Qaboos rest in peace.
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Postby Ebengar » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:36 pm

The sultan is dead, long live the new one...

...whenever the new one's decided, anyway.

Oman, generally, seems like a nice enough place, I suppose.

Don't hear a whole lot about it in American media, though...
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:37 pm

So…how exactly do they pick a successor?
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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:39 pm

Kowani wrote:So…how exactly do they pick a successor?

According to Wikipedia:

Article 6 of the constitution says the royal family should choose a new sultan within three days of the position falling vacant. If the royal family council fails to agree, a letter containing a name penned by Sultan Qaboos should be opened in the presence of a defence council of military and security officials, supreme court chiefs, and heads of the two quasi-parliamentary advisory assemblies.


Seems overly complicated but I suppose it works.
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Postby Ard al Islam » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:47 pm

May God forgive him and grant him Paradise.

The thing is, he died without an heir, which is a good thing. That way, an unqualified person can't just inherit the throne. They'll pick the person with the most merit to rule next.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:51 pm

My sympathies to his family and the Omani people. It seems odd to me though there isn’t simply a line of succession. It’s probably logical to assume women are excluded from the throne?
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Postby Kowani » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:54 pm

Luziyca wrote:
Kowani wrote:So…how exactly do they pick a successor?

According to Wikipedia:

Article 6 of the constitution says the royal family should choose a new sultan within three days of the position falling vacant. If the royal family council fails to agree, a letter containing a name penned by Sultan Qaboos should be opened in the presence of a defence council of military and security officials, supreme court chiefs, and heads of the two quasi-parliamentary advisory assemblies.


Seems overly complicated but I suppose it works.

I see...
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Postby -Astoria » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:54 pm

Ebengar wrote:The sultan is dead, long live the new one...

...whenever the new one's decided, anyway.

Oman, generally, seems like a nice enough place, I suppose.

Don't hear a whole lot about it in American media, though...

It's pretty much one of the few places in the Middle East where there currently isn't a war on

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Postby USS Monitor » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:55 pm

Ebengar wrote:Don't hear a whole lot about it in American media, though...


That's probably a good sign, considering what American media coverage of non-Western countries looks like.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:57 pm

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.thegua ... -announces

Cousin of Qaboos and former Minister of Heritage and Culture Haitham bin Tariq al-Said has been named the new Sultan

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Postby North German Realm » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:00 pm

Does anyone like, know anything about the new Sultan Haitham? Is he politically aligned with the now-late Sultan Qaboos?
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Postby San Lumen » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:03 pm

North German Realm wrote:Does anyone like, know anything about the new Sultan Haitham? Is he politically aligned with the now-late Sultan Qaboos?

I’m not certain if he if that new Sultan. The Guardian is the only one reporting it

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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:06 pm

San Lumen wrote:https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/11/sultan-of-oman-dies-state-media-announces

Cousin of Qaboos and former Minister of Heritage and Culture Haitham bin Tariq al-Said has been named the new Sultan

That seems awfully quick, honestly.

Then again, since only The Guardian is reporting it, maybe we should wait a little bit before we know who is the new sultan. Then again, Wikipedia seems to have linked Qaboos' successor with Haitham, so...
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Postby Nakena » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:07 pm

RIP, he was a good and wise ruler. I hope Oman will continue to do well as it did in the past. It's basically the last traditional arab nation.

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Postby Luziyca » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:08 pm

Nakena wrote:RIP, he was a good and wise ruler. I hope Oman will continue to do well as it did in the past. It's basically the last traditional arab nation.

It has done much better under Qaboos than under his dad. But I do hope whoever is the new Sultan will continue Qaboos' benevolent rule.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Fri Jan 10, 2020 11:10 pm

We belong to God, and to God we shall return. Condolences to the people of Oman.

Luziyca wrote:
Nakena wrote:RIP, he was a good and wise ruler. I hope Oman will continue to do well as it did in the past. It's basically the last traditional arab nation.

It has done much better under Qaboos than under his dad. But I do hope whoever is the new Sultan will continue Qaboos' benevolent rule.

Amen.

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Postby -Astoria » Sat Jan 11, 2020 12:24 am

Luziyca wrote:
Nakena wrote:RIP, he was a good and wise ruler. I hope Oman will continue to do well as it did in the past. It's basically the last traditional arab nation.

It has done much better under Qaboos than under his dad. But I do hope whoever is the new Sultan will continue Qaboos' benevolent rule.

^ This.

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Postby San Lumen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 6:17 am

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.co ... index.html

CNN is now reporting that Haitham bin Tariq Al Said Is the new Sultan

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Postby Novus America » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:01 am

Ebengar wrote:
Oman, generally, seems like a nice enough place, I suppose.

Don't hear a whole lot about it in American media, though...


Not hearing about it in the US media is a good sign. It means it is not belligerent, not in a civil war, not sponsoring terrorists, not shockingly poor, and not committing the worst human rights abuses. It stays quiet and stays out of trouble. It is not an exceptionally great place by global standards unlike say Norway or Switzerland. But is not bad, especially by Middle Eastern standards.

It is like the quiet kid in class who is not a trouble maker, gets good enough grades but is not the top of the class. Who has few particularly close friends but also few real enemies.
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:17 am

So only male members of the royal family are eligible?

Makes sense, the country is called Oman, not Owoman.

Though I personally prefer Opeople.
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Postby Novus America » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:19 am

San Lumen wrote:My sympathies to his family and the Omani people. It seems odd to me though there isn’t simply a line of succession. It’s probably logical to assume women are excluded from the throne?


I would assume so. Oman is not bad by ME standards but it is a very patriarchal society.
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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:22 am

Long live Sultan who overthrew his own father in a coup.

I wonder why Sultan Qaboos never had kids.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:23 am

Novus America wrote:
San Lumen wrote:My sympathies to his family and the Omani people. It seems odd to me though there isn’t simply a line of succession. It’s probably logical to assume women are excluded from the throne?


I would assume so. Oman is not bad by ME standards but it is a very patriarchal society.

It is still a country heavily influenced by traditional values, but yes they are doing very well. They are not really affected by the Arab Spring unlike Bahrain, or others in North Africa and Syria, which helps to preserve some stability there.

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Postby Definitely Not Trumptonium » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:24 am

San Lumen wrote:CNN is now reporting


Speculation is not good in times of grief, let's wait for some news.
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