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Where do you see yourself on the left-right spectrum?

Far-left
189
20%
Just left wing
126
13%
Centre-left
146
16%
Just centre
59
6%
Centre-right
110
12%
Just right wing
113
12%
Far right
79
8%
Other
89
10%
Hasselhoff-wing
23
2%
 
Total votes : 934

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Outer Sparta
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:12 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I'm an economic progressive, social progressive, and I am left-wing on environmental issues like climate change. I'm just giving a summary of my views since many issues of mine fall into those three major groups.


Do you think any sort of speech should be criminalized and what are your thoughts on government surveillance?

I believe hate speech should be criminalized and I am against government surveillance.
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:25 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Do you think any sort of speech should be criminalized and what are your thoughts on government surveillance?

I believe hate speech should be criminalized and I am against government surveillance.


I would say you're left wing and sitting right on the line between authoritarian and libertarian
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Outer Sparta
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:26 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Outer Sparta wrote:I believe hate speech should be criminalized and I am against government surveillance.


I would say you're left wing and sitting right on the line between authoritarian and libertarian

That's basically what I think my views are concerning the political compass.
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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:27 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:Gotta wonder where I fit in on the Rojavan Political Spectrum...


Libertarian


*eye twitch*
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Outer Sparta » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:32 pm

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Libertarian


*eye twitch*

Rojava also said you are right of center. Is that accurate or not really?
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Trollzyn the Infinite
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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:33 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
*eye twitch*

Rojava also said you are right of center. Is that accurate or not really?


No, that part is fairly accurate.
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Vascottozer
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Ex-Nation

Postby Vascottozer » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:22 pm

Nuroblav wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
You summoned me? :p

I guess :lol:

Yeah what I had in mind were the Third Pos and Strasserists and so forth. We even had an Anti-centrist earlier (which I believe was made by a YouTuber), but that tends to end up being in the centre anyway.

well no centrists tend to overlap between left and right and oppose major shifts to the left or right wing. I support everything except overlap and support extremes from every side of the spectrum.
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Telconi
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Ex-Nation

Postby Telconi » Mon Jan 13, 2020 1:30 pm

US-SSR wrote:
Telconi wrote:
So you're just a Bernie bro...


wot m8?


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LiberNovusAmericae
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Tue Jan 14, 2020 4:49 pm

Xuloqoia wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
From my experience I would say most NSers have the ideology of count dankula. Right leaning but liberterian and they don't want the government intruding on them. Then of course there's the authoritarian right like Sai, and the libertarian left like Kowani, and the tankies like the guys up the page


:blink:

... You consider Kowani to be lib-left? I thought he was auth-left?

This

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Rojava Free State
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Ex-Nation

Postby Rojava Free State » Tue Jan 14, 2020 6:08 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Xuloqoia wrote:
:blink:

... You consider Kowani to be lib-left? I thought he was auth-left?

This


Nah, USSR is authoritarian left. And sai is out here trying to start the fourth reich
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LiberNovusAmericae
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Ex-Nation

Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:36 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:This


Nah, USSR is authoritarian left. And sai is out here trying to start the fourth reich

I'm not talking about Sai. Regardless, Kowani doesn't think rights are important and wants to ban religion. Those are authoritarian characteristics.

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Totally Not OEP
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Ex-Nation

Postby Totally Not OEP » Wed Jan 15, 2020 1:53 am

Authoritarian Far Right, in particular National Syndicalism.
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Anthil
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Anthil » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:46 pm

Outer Sparta wrote:
Anthil wrote:
Flanders of course. Did I have to tell you? :(
But even Wallonia has been leaning towards beefsteak socialism for ages now.

Yeah, Belgian politics is very polarizing and split regionally. Do you lean to the left or are you more in the center?


Well, left of course, but as I said more and more so compared to the rest of the political spectrum.

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Ethel mermania
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Jan 15, 2020 12:51 pm

Goldwater Republican
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Asle Leopolka
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Ex-Nation

Postby Asle Leopolka » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:29 pm

Asle Leopolka wrote:Religion - apathetic agnostic. Believe whatever makes you happy and brings you peace, just don't shove it down my throat.

Politics - somewhere between classical liberalism and right libertarianism. I believe civil liberties are an inherent right. I believe the government has the responsibility to tax their citizens to maintain public spaces, utilities, and infrastructure. Governments are also responsible for their people's safety and are well in their rights to maintain police, fire, military, and medical services. I am in favor of basic universal healthcare with the option to buy into private insurance for better care. Governments should have as minimal a presence in business as possible aside from preventing monopolies, ensuring federal and environmental policies are adhered to, and the like.

Economics - Free market capitalist. Huge fan of behavioral economics, especially on the micro scale. Realizes and accepts that while laissez-faire would work in a perfect world, we live in an incredibly imperfect one and that New Keynesian theories are best for the current macroeconomic environment.
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Capitalizt

Postby Bear Stearns » Wed Jan 15, 2020 2:36 pm

I agree with Elizabeth Warren on the economy, Tulsi Gabbard on foreign policy, and Donald Trump on immigration.
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Red Roja
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Postby Red Roja » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:08 am

I guess I am in the center. I was raised to be a conservative but later on in my high school years I became pretty liberal and I even went through a socialist phase in my early 20s. As I grew older I started moving away from the left and more to the center. Now I am pretty much equally put off by both the left and the right.
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Ex-Nation

Postby Sundiata » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:40 am

Centrism.

I am neither left nor right.
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Penguin Union Nation
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Scandinavian Liberal Paradise

Postby Penguin Union Nation » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:47 am

Pretty leftist. I think of Bernie Sanders as a compromise candidate. Honestly, lately I'm less an FDR guy and more a Eugene Debs guy.

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Ex-Nation

Postby Sundiata » Wed Jan 22, 2020 12:58 am

Penguin Union Nation wrote:Pretty leftist. I think of Bernie Sanders as a compromise candidate. Honestly, lately I'm less an FDR guy and more a Eugene Debs guy.

Try Dorothy Day.
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BBs Oceania
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Ex-Nation

Postby BBs Oceania » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:04 am

Supporting Big Brother in the eternal war against Eurasia and Goldsteinism with our plusgood allies of Eastasia.

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Novoleningrad
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Postby Novoleningrad » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:06 am

Radical Posada-Hoxhaist Marxism-Leninism.
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Kaltovar
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kaltovar » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:22 am

I call it Democratic Cyberneticism, a spinoff of the Cyberneticist school of thought which was purged from the Soviet Union in the mid 40s. Allande's Chile (before Pinochet) followed a proto-cybernetic form of government.

My political ideology differs from that of Kaltovar and historical Cyberneticism in some important ways, mainly mine is a lot less authoritarian (because although I trust myself with absolute power, I don't trust other people with it.)

I would like society to be run by a hybrid of a democratically elected government (elected by Ranked Choice Voting), scientists, and intelligent machines. I would like for there to be a Universal Basic Income, and I would like for as much of the business of production and labour to be done by robots and intelligent machines as is possible.

I think we should strive to eliminate the slave class (the workers), in the sense that we should free them from their work by having machines do it. People should exist to experience joy and make new and interesting experiences for other people.

I want to integrate the more complex and banal parts of our government directly into computers, like the interest rate and subsidies given to different companies for example. Anything that would be best operated by a self teaching neural network SHOULD be.

I would also like to have a strong military so that this can't be destroyed by outside forces.

I believe in the importance of a country holding it's own PRODUCTION POWER, which is more important (in economic terms) than anything except perhaps access to raw resources. A country that can not produce goods can not ensure it's independence, and to this end robotic production will be very important.

Finally, I think going into space and exploiting it's resources is physically necessary for the survival of our species (along with reducing our population dramatically in the short term).
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Civil Rights Lovefest

Postby Page » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:40 am

Penguin Union Nation wrote:Pretty leftist. I think of Bernie Sanders as a compromise candidate. Honestly, lately I'm less an FDR guy and more a Eugene Debs guy.


In many ways, Bernie Sanders is in fact a centrist. His Medicare for All proposal is a compromise between capitalist health care and a national health care system. Bernie Sanders isn't proposing nationalizing all the hospitals and having medical personnel be public employees, which itself is not an extreme position - there are several countries in the world that have nationalized health care. Medicare for All would merely be a national insurance which pays privately owned and employed practices and hospitals.
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Kaltovar » Wed Jan 22, 2020 1:49 am

Page wrote:
Penguin Union Nation wrote:Pretty leftist. I think of Bernie Sanders as a compromise candidate. Honestly, lately I'm less an FDR guy and more a Eugene Debs guy.


Bernie Sanders isn't proposing nationalizing all the hospitals and having medical personnel be public employees, which itself is not an extreme position


Although I agree with what you seem to mean, that it is not an UNREASONABLE position, I disagree that it's not extreme. What I mean is, it seems to be the most extreme view one could hold on public/private healthcare in the direction of public healthcare.

If you don't view it as extreme (which is separate from unreasonable), could you provide an example of an extreme position one could take on the pro public healthcare side?
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