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by Liriena » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:42 am
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by Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:46 am
Liriena wrote:On one corner we have white racists crying "white genocide", and on the other we have some liberals acting like a demographic shift inherently signifies a long-term political victory. And I'm just sitting here thinking "meh". I'm less interested in the partisan consequences of this individual piece of information than I am about its underlying causes and its socioeconomic and cultural consequences. How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?

by Saiwania » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:48 am
Liriena wrote:How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?

by Ors Might » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:48 am
Liriena wrote:On one corner we have white racists crying "white genocide", and on the other we have some liberals acting like a demographic shift inherently signifies a long-term political victory, which is as alienating as it is myopic. And I'm just sitting here thinking "meh". I'm less interested in the partisan consequences of this individual piece of information than I am about its underlying causes and its socioeconomic and cultural consequences. How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?

by Ors Might » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:50 am
Saiwania wrote:Liriena wrote:How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?
It was caused by decades of unchecked immigration from majority non-White countries that was enabled by Liberals. If he had Trump's immigration policy on the books from 1960 until today, the US would almost certainly be much Whiter than is the case now.

by Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:50 am
Saiwania wrote:Liriena wrote:How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?
It was caused by decades of unchecked immigration from majority non-White countries that was enabled by Liberals. If he had Trump's immigration policy on the books from 1960 until today, the US would almost certainly be much Whiter than is the case now.

by Liriena » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:51 am
Catburg wrote:Liriena wrote:On one corner we have white racists crying "white genocide", and on the other we have some liberals acting like a demographic shift inherently signifies a long-term political victory. And I'm just sitting here thinking "meh". I'm less interested in the partisan consequences of this individual piece of information than I am about its underlying causes and its socioeconomic and cultural consequences. How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?
I think an oligarchy is deliberately trying to cause racial, gender and maybe religious conflict in America while they concentrate power and take away everyone’s rights.
Dems take away people’s rights under the pretext of racial and gender equality and do not roll back Republican statist policies. Reps take away people’s rights under the pretext of national security and do not roll back Democrat statist policies.
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by Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:51 am
Liriena wrote:Catburg wrote:
I think an oligarchy is deliberately trying to cause racial, gender and maybe religious conflict in America while they concentrate power and take away everyone’s rights.
Dems take away people’s rights under the pretext of racial and gender equality and do not roll back Republican statist policies. Reps take away people’s rights under the pretext of national security and do not roll back Democrat statist policies.
I don't think it was your intent, but I feel like you're flirting with conspiracy theories (of anti-semitic origin) here by blaming this phenomenon on a deliberate, malicious scheme from an "oligarchy".

by Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:53 am

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:53 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:54 am
Catburg wrote:I don’t think there is any Jewish conspiracy either.

by Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:55 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Katganistan wrote:And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.
That's because many of those white defendants could afford private lawyers who fought hard for them, while the non white ones couldn't and as a result they ended up dead. It isn't as simple as "the government wants to kill all black people." It's different than that. It's how racism and classism intersect. Class inequality took over where official racial inequality left off

by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:55 am
Saiwania wrote:Liriena wrote:How did a mostly non-white youth in the United States come into being? Did it go hand in hand with an improvement of socioeconomic conditions for minorities in the United States, or is this a case of disproportionately impoverished people who've been refused quality education and healthcare lacking the tools to plan their own parenthood?
It was caused by decades of unchecked immigration from majority non-White countries that was enabled by Liberals. If we had Trump's immigration policy on the books from 1960 until today, the US would almost certainly be much Whiter than is the case now.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:55 am
Unstoppable Empire of Doom wrote:"Ohmygawd color people gonna outnumber us!11!1!!!1 stop freaking out u racists!" - woke sjw's
"American is a culture not a race, this is a dumb thread." - everyone else
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:56 am
Washington Resistance Army wrote:Saiwania wrote:
It was caused by decades of unchecked immigration from majority non-White countries that was enabled by Liberals. If we had Trump's immigration policy on the books from 1960 until today, the US would almost certainly be much Whiter than is the case now.
Didn't Trump sign an amnesty last month lol
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:58 am
Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:Page wrote:
That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.
I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.
Nobody wants to inflict more hardship on white people, that's a lie made up by the alt-right to justify bigotry and to put civil rights for minorities in a bad light.
When talking about civil rights, somehow the white majority always goes directly to "well, only in a way which in no way whatsoever damages our position of privilege over these people", which is impossible. Somehow, the plight of civil rights is always countered with 'but what about white people', which really needs to stop. White people shouldn't be the priority, civil rights should be.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Saiwania » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:58 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Trump is also loosening H1B requirements and said a year ago he wanted to make legal immigration to America easier. Believe me, trump couldn't care what race America is as long as his business is booming

by LiberNovusAmericae » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:58 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Didn't Trump sign an amnesty last month lol
Trump is also loosening H1B requirements and said a year ago he wanted to make legal immigration to America easier. Believe me, trump couldn't care what race America is as long as his business is booming

by Washington Resistance Army » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:02 am
Saiwania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:Trump is also loosening H1B requirements and said a year ago he wanted to make legal immigration to America easier. Believe me, trump couldn't care what race America is as long as his business is booming
Trump doesn't want them to stay, but he does want to exploit their cheap labor.

by Rojava Free State » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:09 am
Saiwania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:Trump is also loosening H1B requirements and said a year ago he wanted to make legal immigration to America easier. Believe me, trump couldn't care what race America is as long as his business is booming
Trump doesn't want them to stay, but he does want to exploit their cheap labor.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

by Katganistan » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:11 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Katganistan wrote:And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.
That's because many of those white defendants could afford private lawyers who fought hard for them, while the non white ones couldn't and as a result they ended up dead. It isn't as simple as "the government wants to kill all black people." It's different than that. It's how racism and classism intersect. Class inequality took over where official racial inequality left off

by Saiwania » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:12 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Except staying is what they'll likely do. Seriously man, trump is not on your side. He's a con man, and once he's used you for support, he will cast you out. He's done it to his biggest supporters like jeff sessions, so why would he be any nicer to you?

by The Huskar Social Union » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:12 am
Saiwania wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:Trump is also loosening H1B requirements and said a year ago he wanted to make legal immigration to America easier. Believe me, trump couldn't care what race America is as long as his business is booming
Trump doesn't want them to stay, but he does want to exploit their cheap labor.

by Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 8:12 am
Katganistan wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
That's because many of those white defendants could afford private lawyers who fought hard for them, while the non white ones couldn't and as a result they ended up dead. It isn't as simple as "the government wants to kill all black people." It's different than that. It's how racism and classism intersect. Class inequality took over where official racial inequality left off
Now you're doing it. I never said the government wants to kill all black people. I said the laws. and the way they are applied, favor white people.
Why is it that people feel the need to expand my statements into ridiculous hyperbole? Jesus. argue what I wrote, not some cartoon version, please.
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