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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:13 pm

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Lol well the point here is that Serbian, Croatian and Bosniak are actually the same language even though their ethnats really hate this fact.


They're all South slavs. Croats are Catholic South slavs, serbs are eastern orthodox South slavs and Bosnians are Muslim South slavs, but all three are the same exact ethnic group and speak the same language, which is called serbo-croatian.
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Postby Catburg » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:22 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
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Bosniak, not Albanian.


Nah, Albanian too, because you may remember the kosovo war.

Probably should have included bosniak too, but I remember my uncle Joe told me about the violent confrontations that happened between Albanians and Serbs in sterling heights, troy and Warren back in the 1990s during the yugo wars


The problem here is that Albanian is a different language from Serbian and Albanians aren’t Slavic at all.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jan 11, 2020 1:33 pm

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Nah, Albanian too, because you may remember the kosovo war.

Probably should have included bosniak too, but I remember my uncle Joe told me about the violent confrontations that happened between Albanians and Serbs in sterling heights, troy and Warren back in the 1990s during the yugo wars


The problem here is that Albanian is a different language from Serbian and Albanians aren’t Slavic at all.


I know that. I hear Albanian about 5 out of 7 days of the week it seems like, and it sounds more closely related to Martian than it does to slavic
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Postby Hurdergaryp » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:42 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Catburg wrote:The problem here is that Albanian is a different language from Serbian and Albanians aren’t Slavic at all.

I know that. I hear Albanian about 5 out of 7 days of the week it seems like, and it sounds more closely related to Martian than it does to slavic

Albanian has its own branch in the Indo-European subsection of the language tree, so it's not that alien.


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Postby Vetalia » Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:58 pm

Hurdergaryp wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:I know that. I hear Albanian about 5 out of 7 days of the week it seems like, and it sounds more closely related to Martian than it does to slavic

Albanian has its own branch in the Indo-European subsection of the language tree, so it's not that alien.


Even if I can't understand a word of it Albanian still has an Indo-European cadence to it...Basque, Finnish and Hungarian sound like strange UFO languages.
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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:09 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Hurdergaryp wrote:Albanian has its own branch in the Indo-European subsection of the language tree, so it's not that alien.


Even if I can't understand a word of it Albanian still has an Indo-European cadence to it...Basque, Finnish and Hungarian sound like strange UFO languages.

Finnish sounds like an elvish language or something out of the LoR. Basque is.....rather unique.

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Postby Vetalia » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:20 pm

Samudera Darussalam wrote:
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Even if I can't understand a word of it Albanian still has an Indo-European cadence to it...Basque, Finnish and Hungarian sound like strange UFO languages.

Finnish sounds like an elvish language or something out of the LoR. Basque is.....rather unique.


If I hear Indo-European languages from Spain to NE India, "sure, sounds about right regarding whatever the hell they're talking about, a few of those words I recognize"

Hearing Finnish, Hungarian or Basque. "What the hell?"
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:31 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Finnish sounds like an elvish language or something out of the LoR. Basque is.....rather unique.


If I hear Indo-European languages from Spain to NE India, "sure, sounds about right regarding whatever the hell they're talking about, a few of those words I recognize"

Hearing Finnish, Hungarian or Basque. "What the hell?"


Someone speaks iranian: "I'm noticing some similarities to english"

Someone speaks Estonian: "WHAT!?"
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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:20 pm

My opinion on this, who the fuck cares?
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Postby Saiwania » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:23 pm

Cappuccina wrote:My opinion on this, who the fuck cares?


It is arguably the most important thing someone can care about. Being in the majority is a major perk that is often sorely missed.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:24 pm

Vetalia wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:Finnish sounds like an elvish language or something out of the LoR. Basque is.....rather unique.


If I hear Indo-European languages from Spain to NE India, "sure, sounds about right regarding whatever the hell they're talking about, a few of those words I recognize"

Hearing Finnish, Hungarian or Basque. "What the hell?"

To be fair, Basque has no relatives left.

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Postby Cappuccina » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:29 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:My opinion on this, who the fuck cares?


It is arguably the most important thing someone can care about. Being in the majority is a major perk that is often sorely missed.


It's no more important than vagina candles.
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Postby Kowani » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:33 pm

Cappuccina wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
It is arguably the most important thing someone can care about. Being in the majority is a major perk that is often sorely missed.


It's no more important than vagina candles.

I’m stealing this phrase.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Sat Jan 11, 2020 10:42 pm

I rather like the idea of not having to follow the rules which the majority makes because there will have to be a plurality for decisions to be made. It means there will be less rules.

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Postby Katganistan » Sat Jan 11, 2020 11:14 pm

LiberNovusAmericae wrote:
Ors Might wrote:That doesn’t sound like it benefits white people. It sounds like it harms non-whites.

It's the stupid war on drugs, though that's a separate issue.

And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.

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Postby Page » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:14 am

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LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's the stupid war on drugs, though that's a separate issue.

And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.

I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.
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Postby Katganistan » Sun Jan 12, 2020 12:40 am

Page wrote:
Katganistan wrote:And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.

I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.

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Postby Nobel Hobos 2 » Sun Jan 12, 2020 2:42 am

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Katganistan wrote:And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.

I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.


Because I'm for lesser sentences all round I can't help agreeing with you. But a whole lot of people are going to look at the stats and say black people are just more criminal, they NEED harsher sentences. And when you say they're getting harsher sentences, they'll say "well good, imagine how bad they'd be without that".

Well fuck 'em, right? But they vote.
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:29 am

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Katganistan wrote:And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.

I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.

Nobody wants to inflict more hardship on white people, that's a lie made up by the alt-right to justify bigotry and to put civil rights for minorities in a bad light.

When talking about civil rights, somehow the white majority always goes directly to "well, only in a way which in no way whatsoever damages our position of privilege over these people", which is impossible. Somehow, the plight of civil rights is always countered with 'but what about white people', which really needs to stop. White people shouldn't be the priority, civil rights should be.
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Postby Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:53 am

I’m increasingly convinced that this weird whites vs browns problem is to a great extant caused by nation building. In America we have to understand whites and blacks not as races but as culturally similar, quarreling ethnic groups like Serbs and Croats or Koreans and Japanese. For whatever reason people actually believe that creating multiple ethnic groups who dislike each other in the same country is actually a good idea.

This implies that the problem shouldn’t be that serious without people trying to make phenotypes ethnic groups.
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Postby Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 3:56 am

Katganistan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's the stupid war on drugs, though that's a separate issue.

And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


Do you actually believe that the world is divided into elephants and non-elephants? How can someone even push this kind of nonsense?!
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Postby Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:01 am

Saiwania wrote:
Cappuccina wrote:My opinion on this, who the fuck cares?


It is arguably the most important thing someone can care about. Being in the majority is a major perk that is often sorely missed.


It is a perk without which you guys will probably be treated like Ashkenazi Jews considering that some folks deliberately invented a new ethnicity based on hatred of white Americans and absurdly called it “blacks” as if this new ethnicity actually has much to do with Africa culturally or that its weird, newly manufactured tribal myths such as “we are da first people” and “we were flying egyptians” have anything to do with skin color.
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Postby Catburg » Sun Jan 12, 2020 4:15 am

Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States wrote:
Page wrote:
That is true, although it reminds me that a huge problem we've had with discussions of institutional racism and "white privilege" is that we must be clear about resolving these problems in a way that not only erases the disparity but is just. If, from this point forward, white people were given the same harsh sentences as black people for victimless drug crimes, that would be equal but not just. If as many white people were executed as black people, that would not be justice, because we know that many of the people who are executed are falsely convicted.

I think there would be less backlash to discussion of racial issues if we were more clear that we do not intend to resolve them by inflicting more hardship on white people, instead we want less hardship on people of color.

Nobody wants to inflict more hardship on white people, that's a lie made up by the alt-right to justify bigotry and to put civil rights for minorities in a bad light.

When talking about civil rights, somehow the white majority always goes directly to "well, only in a way which in no way whatsoever damages our position of privilege over these people", which is impossible. Somehow, the plight of civil rights is always countered with 'but what about white people', which really needs to stop. White people shouldn't be the priority, civil rights should be.


It is a complete mess. I guess all I care about is making sure that people from either side do not harm me. Both sides are fucking scary (because nobody knows what you all will do as you are more impulsive than me) and absurd from a NE Asian point of view.

Some folks must have been deliberately trying to manufacture a serious white vs brown tribal conflict by deliberately starting a nation-building process to build black and brown Americans as ethnic groups hostile to the white majority and an earlier American consensus. What’s the purpose of that? Transforming America into an oligarchy by weakening the people? Just like the pseudo-nationalism in China which is really just a tool of the state this looks fishy to me.
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Postby Ors Might » Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:57 am

Katganistan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's the stupid war on drugs, though that's a separate issue.

And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.

So not a benefit for whites so much as it is discrimination against non-whites? White folk don’t get lesser sentences because they’re considered innocent waifs, they get lesser sentences because the criminal justice system views racial minorities as dangerous.
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Postby The East Marches II » Sun Jan 12, 2020 7:07 am

Katganistan wrote:
LiberNovusAmericae wrote:It's the stupid war on drugs, though that's a separate issue.

And whites getting lesser sentences for the same or worse crimes than non-whites. Any even cursory reading on the death penalty points that out.


Don't forget women getting the least out of us all :^)

I'm for equalizing punishments in that category and ending female privilege.

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