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The health and fitness thread 2: 2020 or bust

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 2:11 pm
by Rojava Free State
If I could have typed in more words, I would have named it "for the survival of our new years resolutions" but I was limited in how much I could put up there.

Several months ago on nationstates, there was a thread known as the health and fitness thread which is remembered by about 5 people at most and was on the front page of the general discussion for maybe a month. While that previous thread may be long gone, it's memory lives on right here. But this isn't just any old fitness thread. This concerns the beginning of this new year, and the most common genetic resolution anyone can make, which is "being a healthier person in 2020." Some people will make it. Some wont. I'm sure many a person will go back to being a couch potato in only a week, but maybe you will find new motivation to continue your long journey to a healthier body and mind right here in these pages.

To kick off this new thread, I wanna discuss what my goals have been for this year regarding my health. I've been getting back into the gym again with three things on my mind:

•Increasing my strength
•Increasing muscle mass
•Keeping the weight off so I don't look like brown fat Albert by the time summer rolls around

We all know what exercise is but do we know how? I'll start this off by asking you all what your goals are this year regarding fitness, and whether you have just started to have a focus on it or whether you've been living a healthy lifestyle for some time now. Do you have any tips for beginners in the gym? If you've been living your new years resolution from a previous new year by this point, how have things turned out? Let me know down below

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:11 pm
by Major-Tom
I still swim about five days a week, 2 miles a day or so. Although, my goal for this new year is to be more adventurous in how I exercise. I love hiking, but don't always find the time, but I'd love to see what else I can do in addition to swimming and occasional hikes. I've tried running, which is fine, and some weight lifting regiments which I don't hate but I'm certainly not passionate about the same way I am with swim.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 05, 2020 5:32 pm
by Rojava Free State
Major-Tom wrote:I still swim about five days a week, 2 miles a day or so. Although, my goal for this new year is to be more adventurous in how I exercise. I love hiking, but don't always find the time, but I'd love to see what else I can do in addition to swimming and occasional hikes. I've tried running, which is fine, and some weight lifting regiments which I don't hate but I'm certainly not passionate about the same way I am with swim.


I can't swim without almost drowning and I wish I could hike, but it's winter in Michigan and the weather is getting worse

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 1:36 am
by Phoenicaea
all harshness with whom swim comes, is fear of the shark. don t turn, then stay not as agitate yet not too calm, and you have learnt to.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:25 am
by Dazchan
I’m trying to lose some weight before I knock the Earth out of its orbit. I’ve lost about 10kg so far, but I still have quite a bit to go before I’m a healthy weight. My main problem is finding things that work and that I can also stick to.
At the moment, it’s mostly diet, but I do have a gym/pool membership that I’ll be using once I lose some more weight and won’t be so embarrassed.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 2:35 am
by Isles of Metanoia
Oooh this would be fun. I used to be really active and had abs and shit but I got busy lately and lost it. I want to be active in MMA again and regain my lost physique. Inwill post my progress here.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 7:13 am
by Rojava Free State
Isles of Metanoia wrote:Oooh this would be fun. I used to be really active and had abs and shit but I got busy lately and lost it. I want to be active in MMA again and regain my lost physique. Inwill post my progress here.


One thing a lot of people don't know is getting abs is as much about a healthy diet as it is about exercise. You're only gonna seem em if your BMI is super low, because unless your body is less than 10% fat, a layer of fat is just gonna cover them

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:36 am
by Bieva
Great thread idea!

I'm a runner/general cardio addict trying to get into lifting - obviously don't want to get too bulky, but I'd like to get stronger and have a fuller figure. I'm also trying to get into a rowing crew rn so lots of upper body strength needed! Currently at 19,7 BMI, 16% body fat, 30% muscle mass.

Rojava Free State wrote:
Isles of Metanoia wrote:Oooh this would be fun. I used to be really active and had abs and shit but I got busy lately and lost it. I want to be active in MMA again and regain my lost physique. Inwill post my progress here.


One thing a lot of people don't know is getting abs is as much about a healthy diet as it is about exercise. You're only gonna seem em if your BMI is super low, because unless your body is less than 10% fat, a layer of fat is just gonna cover them


I think you mean body fat percentage.

Tbh even the bf% guides you find online aren't great indicators of how you might look at a certain body fat level. As a woman at 16% body fat I should have bikini model-level abs, but I don't :lol: basically everyone's body is different and muscle mass % is also really important.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 8:50 am
by An Alan Smithee Nation
I've found the best solution to any wavering motivation I might have to go running is a Ulysses contract with a friend. We always go running together once a week come rain, snow, ice, alien invasion - simply because of the pressure not to let each other down. It's worked for about ten years now with only about four sickness cry offs.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:25 am
by Asle Leopolka
Motivation/post theme

PROTIP: Gyms will start being considerably less crowded after this weekend. I always time my deload/rest weeks to ensure they fall on the first week of January so the NYR crowd doesn't interfere with my stuff.

I played rugby for 12 years so my knees and shoulders are basically confetti. I can't run or do other high impact exercises (yet strangely I'm fine doing Olympic lifts and the stairmaster), so I primarily do weight and resistance training with swimming and other anaerobic cardio. Right now I'm running:

M: Chest, arms, abs, back
Tu: Rowing/swimming
W: Legs, shoulders, abs
Th: Rowing/stairmaster
F: Back, arms, abs, chest
Sat: Full body, Olympic lifting and kettlebell anaerobic cardio
Sun: Rest

For people just getting into weight training, here are a few pieces of advice:
1. Start with the barbell "compound exercises" to build your strength base. These are the barbell bench press, overhead press, squat, deadlift, and bent row. These work multiple muscle groups and will help build strength more effectively.
2. DO NOT OVERTRAIN! Make sure each muscle group is given 2-3 days rest between workouts. You want to dedicate one day of rest a week, usually Sundays.
3. You want to be fatigued but not dead after each set. Choose a weight that is doable but still makes you work for it, usually 75% of your 1RM. Allow 1 to 3 minutes rest between sets, depending on how heavy you're working.
4. Don't forget cardio! It only kills gains if you overtrain and don't eat right.
5. Don't overcomplicate workouts. A good base platform for people completely new to lifting and don't have any strength foundation is something like

Workout A (A): Bench or OHP (alternate between workouts) 5x5 or 4x6, Squat 5x5 or 4x6, 2-3 accessory workouts (tricep pushdown, dips, ab work, shrugs, lateral raises, pec fly, delt fly, incline bench press, calf raises, leg curls, etc), 3x10 or 4x8
Workout B (B): Deadlift 5x1, bent row 4x6 or 5x5, 2-3 accessory workouts (curls, ab work, pullups, chinups, etc) 3x10 or 4x8
Cardio (c): Whatever gets your heartrate up for 30 minutes

Week 1: AcBcAcx
Week 2: BcAcBcx

Do this for about 3 months to get a solid base and then you can alter your workout to fit your needs.

6. Warm up and stretch before every workout. And remember that FORM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFTING A BUNCH OF HEAVY ASS WEIGHT. Ignore this and you'll be in snap city with a fuckton of pain.

And 7. DO NOT ignore your diet! Eat lean protein, whole grains, plenty of veggies, and limit/eliminate sugary foods and drinks (I haven't drank soda since high school). Ignore fad diets - 95% of them are bullshit that lead to yo-yo dieting and don't work long term (I'm looking at you, keto). My fiance is a dietitian and will tell this to everyone she meets. If you need help with your diet, meet with a registered dietitian and keep a food diary.

Bieva wrote:Great thread idea!

I'm a runner/general cardio addict trying to get into lifting - obviously don't want to get too bulky, but I'd like to get stronger and have a fuller figure. I'm also trying to get into a rowing crew rn so lots of upper body strength needed! Currently at 19,7 BMI, 16% body fat, 30% muscle mass.


First, you won't get "too bulky" unless you lift heavy ass weight 4 times a week. My fiance was in the same boat until she met with a personal trainer at our gym to get a weight routine made up; it's basically this workout. Second, rowing is 2/3 legs, 1/3 back and arms. You use your legs as the main force driver while your back and arms basically stabilize and control the force (Source)

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 9:55 am
by Bieva
Asle Leopolka wrote:Motivation/post theme

PROTIP: Gyms will start being considerably less crowded after this weekend. I always time my deload/rest weeks to ensure they fall on the first week of January so the NYR crowd doesn't interfere with my stuff.

I played rugby for 12 years so my knees and shoulders are basically confetti. I can't run or do other high impact exercises (yet strangely I'm fine doing Olympic lifts and the stairmaster), so I primarily do weight and resistance training with swimming and other anaerobic cardio. Right now I'm running:

M: Chest, arms, abs, back
Tu: Rowing/swimming
W: Legs, shoulders, abs
Th: Rowing/stairmaster
F: Back, arms, abs, chest
Sat: Full body, Olympic lifting and kettlebell anaerobic cardio
Sun: Rest

For people just getting into weight training, here are a few pieces of advice:
1. Start with the barbell "compound exercises" to build your strength base. These are the barbell bench press, overhead press, squat, deadlift, and bent row. These work multiple muscle groups and will help build strength more effectively.
2. DO NOT OVERTRAIN! Make sure each muscle group is given 2-3 days rest between workouts. You want to dedicate one day of rest a week, usually Sundays.
3. You want to be fatigued but not dead after each set. Choose a weight that is doable but still makes you work for it, usually 75% of your 1RM. Allow 1 to 3 minutes rest between sets, depending on how heavy you're working.
4. Don't forget cardio! It only kills gains if you overtrain and don't eat right.
5. Don't overcomplicate workouts. A good base platform for people completely new to lifting and don't have any strength foundation is something like

Workout A (A): Bench or OHP (alternate between workouts) 5x5 or 4x6, Squat 5x5 or 4x6, 2-3 accessory workouts (tricep pushdown, dips, ab work, shrugs, lateral raises, pec fly, delt fly, incline bench press, calf raises, leg curls, etc), 3x10 or 4x8
Workout B (B): Deadlift 5x1, bent row 4x6 or 5x5, 2-3 accessory workouts (curls, ab work, pullups, chinups, etc) 3x10 or 4x8
Cardio (c): Whatever gets your heartrate up for 30 minutes

Week 1: AcBcAcx
Week 2: BcAcBcx

Do this for about 3 months to get a solid base and then you can alter your workout to fit your needs.

6. Warm up and stretch before every workout. And remember that FORM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFTING A BUNCH OF HEAVY ASS WEIGHT. Ignore this and you'll be in snap city with a fuckton of pain.

And 7. DO NOT ignore your diet! Eat lean protein, whole grains, plenty of veggies, and limit/eliminate sugary foods and drinks (I haven't drank soda since high school). Ignore fad diets - 95% of them are bullshit that lead to yo-yo dieting and don't work long term (I'm looking at you, keto). My fiance is a dietitian and will tell this to everyone she meets. If you need help with your diet, meet with a registered dietitian and keep a food diary.

Bieva wrote:Great thread idea!

I'm a runner/general cardio addict trying to get into lifting - obviously don't want to get too bulky, but I'd like to get stronger and have a fuller figure. I'm also trying to get into a rowing crew rn so lots of upper body strength needed! Currently at 19,7 BMI, 16% body fat, 30% muscle mass.


First, you won't get "too bulky" unless you lift heavy ass weight 4 times a week. My fiance was in the same boat until she met with a personal trainer at our gym to get a weight routine made up; it's basically this workout. Second, rowing is 2/3 legs, 1/3 back and arms. You use your legs as the main force driver while your back and arms basically stabilize and control the force (Source)


Yeah my upper body is just v weak rn so I need to work on it :')

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 4:29 pm
by Rojava Free State
Asle Leopolka wrote:Motivation/post theme

PROTIP: Gyms will start being considerably less crowded after this weekend. I always time my deload/rest weeks to ensure they fall on the first week of January so the NYR crowd doesn't interfere with my stuff.

I played rugby for 12 years so my knees and shoulders are basically confetti. I can't run or do other high impact exercises (yet strangely I'm fine doing Olympic lifts and the stairmaster), so I primarily do weight and resistance training with swimming and other anaerobic cardio. Right now I'm running:

M: Chest, arms, abs, back
Tu: Rowing/swimming
W: Legs, shoulders, abs
Th: Rowing/stairmaster
F: Back, arms, abs, chest
Sat: Full body, Olympic lifting and kettlebell anaerobic cardio
Sun: Rest

For people just getting into weight training, here are a few pieces of advice:
1. Start with the barbell "compound exercises" to build your strength base. These are the barbell bench press, overhead press, squat, deadlift, and bent row. These work multiple muscle groups and will help build strength more effectively.
2. DO NOT OVERTRAIN! Make sure each muscle group is given 2-3 days rest between workouts. You want to dedicate one day of rest a week, usually Sundays.
3. You want to be fatigued but not dead after each set. Choose a weight that is doable but still makes you work for it, usually 75% of your 1RM. Allow 1 to 3 minutes rest between sets, depending on how heavy you're working.
4. Don't forget cardio! It only kills gains if you overtrain and don't eat right.
5. Don't overcomplicate workouts. A good base platform for people completely new to lifting and don't have any strength foundation is something like

Workout A (A): Bench or OHP (alternate between workouts) 5x5 or 4x6, Squat 5x5 or 4x6, 2-3 accessory workouts (tricep pushdown, dips, ab work, shrugs, lateral raises, pec fly, delt fly, incline bench press, calf raises, leg curls, etc), 3x10 or 4x8
Workout B (B): Deadlift 5x1, bent row 4x6 or 5x5, 2-3 accessory workouts (curls, ab work, pullups, chinups, etc) 3x10 or 4x8
Cardio (c): Whatever gets your heartrate up for 30 minutes

Week 1: AcBcAcx
Week 2: BcAcBcx

Do this for about 3 months to get a solid base and then you can alter your workout to fit your needs.

6. Warm up and stretch before every workout. And remember that FORM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFTING A BUNCH OF HEAVY ASS WEIGHT. Ignore this and you'll be in snap city with a fuckton of pain.

And 7. DO NOT ignore your diet! Eat lean protein, whole grains, plenty of veggies, and limit/eliminate sugary foods and drinks (I haven't drank soda since high school). Ignore fad diets - 95% of them are bullshit that lead to yo-yo dieting and don't work long term (I'm looking at you, keto). My fiance is a dietitian and will tell this to everyone she meets. If you need help with your diet, meet with a registered dietitian and keep a food diary.

Bieva wrote:Great thread idea!

I'm a runner/general cardio addict trying to get into lifting - obviously don't want to get too bulky, but I'd like to get stronger and have a fuller figure. I'm also trying to get into a rowing crew rn so lots of upper body strength needed! Currently at 19,7 BMI, 16% body fat, 30% muscle mass.


First, you won't get "too bulky" unless you lift heavy ass weight 4 times a week. My fiance was in the same boat until she met with a personal trainer at our gym to get a weight routine made up; it's basically this workout. Second, rowing is 2/3 legs, 1/3 back and arms. You use your legs as the main force driver while your back and arms basically stabilize and control the force (Source)


That's a lot of math

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:08 pm
by Isles of Metanoia
Just posting muh previous body. Im diffrent now since Im now an utter fatso but in the past was an avid Football player, MMA afficionado and shit. However. I never got serious into weight lifting.

Id like to try that.

Muh past pics...

I lurved sports

Image

Muh abs

Image

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 5:52 pm
by Asle Leopolka
Rojava Free State wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Motivation/post theme

PROTIP: Gyms will start being considerably less crowded after this weekend. I always time my deload/rest weeks to ensure they fall on the first week of January so the NYR crowd doesn't interfere with my stuff.

I played rugby for 12 years so my knees and shoulders are basically confetti. I can't run or do other high impact exercises (yet strangely I'm fine doing Olympic lifts and the stairmaster), so I primarily do weight and resistance training with swimming and other anaerobic cardio. Right now I'm running:

M: Chest, arms, abs, back
Tu: Rowing/swimming
W: Legs, shoulders, abs
Th: Rowing/stairmaster
F: Back, arms, abs, chest
Sat: Full body, Olympic lifting and kettlebell anaerobic cardio
Sun: Rest

For people just getting into weight training, here are a few pieces of advice:
1. Start with the barbell "compound exercises" to build your strength base. These are the barbell bench press, overhead press, squat, deadlift, and bent row. These work multiple muscle groups and will help build strength more effectively.
2. DO NOT OVERTRAIN! Make sure each muscle group is given 2-3 days rest between workouts. You want to dedicate one day of rest a week, usually Sundays.
3. You want to be fatigued but not dead after each set. Choose a weight that is doable but still makes you work for it, usually 75% of your 1RM. Allow 1 to 3 minutes rest between sets, depending on how heavy you're working.
4. Don't forget cardio! It only kills gains if you overtrain and don't eat right.
5. Don't overcomplicate workouts. A good base platform for people completely new to lifting and don't have any strength foundation is something like

Workout A (A): Bench or OHP (alternate between workouts) 5x5 or 4x6, Squat 5x5 or 4x6, 2-3 accessory workouts (tricep pushdown, dips, ab work, shrugs, lateral raises, pec fly, delt fly, incline bench press, calf raises, leg curls, etc), 3x10 or 4x8
Workout B (B): Deadlift 5x1, bent row 4x6 or 5x5, 2-3 accessory workouts (curls, ab work, pullups, chinups, etc) 3x10 or 4x8
Cardio (c): Whatever gets your heartrate up for 30 minutes

Week 1: AcBcAcx
Week 2: BcAcBcx

Do this for about 3 months to get a solid base and then you can alter your workout to fit your needs.

6. Warm up and stretch before every workout. And remember that FORM IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN LIFTING A BUNCH OF HEAVY ASS WEIGHT. Ignore this and you'll be in snap city with a fuckton of pain.

And 7. DO NOT ignore your diet! Eat lean protein, whole grains, plenty of veggies, and limit/eliminate sugary foods and drinks (I haven't drank soda since high school). Ignore fad diets - 95% of them are bullshit that lead to yo-yo dieting and don't work long term (I'm looking at you, keto). My fiance is a dietitian and will tell this to everyone she meets. If you need help with your diet, meet with a registered dietitian and keep a food diary.



First, you won't get "too bulky" unless you lift heavy ass weight 4 times a week. My fiance was in the same boat until she met with a personal trainer at our gym to get a weight routine made up; it's basically this workout. Second, rowing is 2/3 legs, 1/3 back and arms. You use your legs as the main force driver while your back and arms basically stabilize and control the force (Source)


That's a lot of math

Not really. You figure out your max for each lift and use 3/4 of it for reps. When I say 4x6 or whatever I mean four sets of six reps.

PostPosted: Tue Jan 07, 2020 6:16 pm
by Isles of Metanoia
Asle Leopolka wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:


That's a lot of math

Not really. You figure out your max for each lift and use 3/4 of it for reps. When I say 4x6 or whatever I mean four sets of six reps.


Oh teach me yur magic waize Senpai.

Ive only been to dynamic exercises like team sports and martial arts but I want to get into weight lifting and I am a total noob. But I just seriously want that shredded and aesthetic look you get from weightlifting.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 9:48 am
by Asle Leopolka
Isles of Metanoia wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Not really. You figure out your max for each lift and use 3/4 of it for reps. When I say 4x6 or whatever I mean four sets of six reps.


Oh teach me yur magic waize Senpai.

Ive only been to dynamic exercises like team sports and martial arts but I want to get into weight lifting and I am a total noob. But I just seriously want that shredded and aesthetic look you get from weightlifting.

Aesthetics are made in the kitchen. A "shredded" look is achieved by having a low body fat percentage and is not sustainable long-term. Last time I measured myself my %BF was 11% and I still have visible abs and decent vascularity; if I wanted to be truly shredded I'd need an uncomfortably low amount of body fat (6 to 7%) and the tradeoff of having low energy, always being hungry, and more easily fatigued are just not worth it.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 08, 2020 2:09 pm
by Rojava Free State
Asle Leopolka wrote:
Isles of Metanoia wrote:
Oh teach me yur magic waize Senpai.

Ive only been to dynamic exercises like team sports and martial arts but I want to get into weight lifting and I am a total noob. But I just seriously want that shredded and aesthetic look you get from weightlifting.

Aesthetics are made in the kitchen. A "shredded" look is achieved by having a low body fat percentage and is not sustainable long-term. Last time I measured myself my %BF was 11% and I still have visible abs and decent vascularity; if I wanted to be truly shredded I'd need an uncomfortably low amount of body fat (6 to 7%) and the tradeoff of having low energy, always being hungry, and more easily fatigued are just not worth it.


Honestly though being shredded is like trying to be perfect. It's just not super realistic most times and is it really that necessary? So what if I don't have a six pack? I'm still fairly attractive, smart(er than most of the people in my life) and I'm in good physical shape. I feel like exercise should be done for yourself, and not for others

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:17 am
by Asle Leopolka
Rojava Free State wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:Aesthetics are made in the kitchen. A "shredded" look is achieved by having a low body fat percentage and is not sustainable long-term. Last time I measured myself my %BF was 11% and I still have visible abs and decent vascularity; if I wanted to be truly shredded I'd need an uncomfortably low amount of body fat (6 to 7%) and the tradeoff of having low energy, always being hungry, and more easily fatigued are just not worth it.


Honestly though being shredded is like trying to be perfect. It's just not super realistic most times and is it really that necessary? So what if I don't have a six pack? I'm still fairly attractive, smart(er than most of the people in my life) and I'm in good physical shape. I feel like exercise should be done for yourself, and not for others

FUN FACT: All those fitness models, actors, bodybuilders, etc. who are shredded in photos are only like that for a few days because of how unobtainable it is long-term. In addition to the low body fat, high vascularity and insane muscle detail are also emphasized by being dehydrated as the Sahara. Even Brad Pitt said his figure in Fight Club was gruesome and not worth it.

As for "doing it for yourself," often times being ripped is for yourself, since if you look good in your own eyes you'll feel good and confident. Personally I enjoy having visible abs, as I felt incredibly uncomfortable when I was overweight or in bulk mode and had a tire around me.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 2:03 pm
by The Rurkovich Imperium
Rojava Free State wrote:I'll start this off by asking you all what your goals are this year regarding fitness, and whether you have just started to have a focus on it or whether you've been living a healthy lifestyle for some time now. Do you have any tips for beginners in the gym? If you've been living your new years resolution from a previous new year by this point, how have things turned out? Let me know down below

I have some specific ideas in mind for this new year. I worked out somewhat infrequently last year, so this year I want to go to the gym from 7-7:45 am and use the elliptical every weekday. I want to do some warm ups in my dorm beforehand and stretching, which I'm giving myself about 15 minutes to do.

I also plan to cut sweets to just once a weekend day unless I'm out or celebrating something, and continue to eat two meals a day. This diet worked well last year, although the sweets challenge was a bit more difficult than I imagined. So tempting they are, and how conveniently located right next to the main exit too. Also soda, juice, lemonade and the like are all being cut completely. Water is perfectly refreshing on its own.

Did someone mention my bust?

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 5:46 pm
by Nobel Hobos 2
Oh. Fitness. Yeah OK I do an adequate amount of exercise but I'm not enthusiastic about it at all.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 7:52 pm
by Cisairse
Asle Leopolka wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Honestly though being shredded is like trying to be perfect. It's just not super realistic most times and is it really that necessary? So what if I don't have a six pack? I'm still fairly attractive, smart(er than most of the people in my life) and I'm in good physical shape. I feel like exercise should be done for yourself, and not for others

FUN FACT: All those fitness models, actors, bodybuilders, etc. who are shredded in photos are only like that for a few days because of how unobtainable it is long-term. In addition to the low body fat, high vascularity and insane muscle detail are also emphasized by being dehydrated as the Sahara. Even Brad Pitt said his figure in Fight Club was gruesome and not worth it.

As for "doing it for yourself," often times being ripped is for yourself, since if you look good in your own eyes you'll feel good and confident. Personally I enjoy having visible abs, as I felt incredibly uncomfortable when I was overweight or in bulk mode and had a tire around me.


I feel like "gruesome and not worth it" is pretty much the theme of Fight Club anyway.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 8:12 pm
by Rojava Free State
Asle Leopolka wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Honestly though being shredded is like trying to be perfect. It's just not super realistic most times and is it really that necessary? So what if I don't have a six pack? I'm still fairly attractive, smart(er than most of the people in my life) and I'm in good physical shape. I feel like exercise should be done for yourself, and not for others

FUN FACT: All those fitness models, actors, bodybuilders, etc. who are shredded in photos are only like that for a few days because of how unobtainable it is long-term. In addition to the low body fat, high vascularity and insane muscle detail are also emphasized by being dehydrated as the Sahara. Even Brad Pitt said his figure in Fight Club was gruesome and not worth it.

As for "doing it for yourself," often times being ripped is for yourself, since if you look good in your own eyes you'll feel good and confident. Personally I enjoy having visible abs, as I felt incredibly uncomfortable when I was overweight or in bulk mode and had a tire around me.


Those models look like their bodies are about to explode. They don't look healthy, they look like they're having some weird anaphylactic reaction

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:45 pm
by Novus America
As mentioned being completely “shredded” is not actually that fit or healthy, nor useful.

Personally I like push ups, pull ups and sit ups, stair climbing. They will not get you huge, but they will help master your own body weight. Too much muscle will actually slow you down.

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 9:55 pm
by Rojava Free State
Novus America wrote:As mentioned being completely “shredded” is not actually that fit or healthy, nor useful.

Personally I like push ups, pull ups and sit ups, stair climbing. They will not get you huge, but they will help master your own body weight. Too much muscle will actually slow you down.


About two times a week I do a full upper body workout, hitting my biceps, triceps, back, abs and pectorals/shoulders, and three times a week I do squats, and everyday except Saturday and Sunday I run the stairs for an hour and go for a walk in the evening. I'm really pushing myself so when I go overseas on vacation this summer, I don't look like TJ Kirk

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 10:48 pm
by Kubra
Novus America wrote:As mentioned being completely “shredded” is not actually that fit or healthy, nor useful.

Personally I like push ups, pull ups and sit ups, stair climbing. They will not get you huge, but they will help master your own body weight. Too much muscle will actually slow you down.
Sure but why would you want to be fast instead of min-maxing incremental number gains
plus I mean ooooh the things you can eat