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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:09 pm

Really shitty, hopefully all our Aussie NSers near the fires are safe. With climate change this is only gonna get worse.
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:10 pm

Arkhastok wrote:
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They barely are, they only have some slight influence in the Senate right now, and that's all they're going to get for a long time.

Good. Because if they were any more powerful then..
oh no

I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:11 pm

Heloin wrote:
Arkhastok wrote:Good. Because if they were any more powerful then..
oh no

I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.


They're the only really progressive party in the country, Labor's more like the mainstream centrist Dems in the US in many respects.
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Postby Arkhastok » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:14 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Heloin wrote:I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.


They're the only really progressive party in the country, Labor's more like the mainstream centrist Dems in the US in many respects.

Libs and Labor are two sides of the same coin and both shit. You just put higher preference on the one that’s less shit at the time

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Postby Arkhastok » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:16 pm

Even as a right-wing conservative id sometimes put Labor at a higher preference in my electorate. The Labor guy’s fucking great and actually tried to put culture over profit, but our last Lib candidate for state was a disaster.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:21 pm

The Royal Family have sent thoughts and prayers.

I imagine a billion pounds would be a bit more helpful at this point....

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Postby Arkhastok » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:23 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The Royal Family have sent thoughts and prayers.

I imagine a billion pounds would be a bit more helpful at this point....

We’re basically a separate entity at this point from them. Royal family doesn’t do like anything at all so I’m not surprised, they have their own Brit problems to deal with

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Postby Fartsniffage » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:24 pm

Arkhastok wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The Royal Family have sent thoughts and prayers.

I imagine a billion pounds would be a bit more helpful at this point....

We’re basically a separate entity at this point from them. Royal family doesn’t do like anything at all so I’m not surprised, they have their own Brit problems to deal with


The UK isn't literally on fire. It's not great here but I'm unlikely to die tomorrow.

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Postby Arkhastok » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:26 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Arkhastok wrote:We’re basically a separate entity at this point from them. Royal family doesn’t do like anything at all so I’m not surprised, they have their own Brit problems to deal with


The UK isn't literally on fire. It's not great here but I'm unlikely to die tomorrow.

The Royal Family isn’t selfless enough to send anything over to an overseas holding that basically governs itself and is almost entirely separate anyways so *shrug*

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Postby Lost Memories » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:49 pm

Heloin wrote:
Arkhastok wrote:Good. Because if they were any more powerful then..
oh no

I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.

I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.
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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 04, 2020 3:55 pm

Lost Memories wrote:
Heloin wrote:I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.

I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.


I can understand the concern, though. Controlled burns are good, but these areas have been in a three-year long drought, and we in the US have seen that performing a controlled burn during a drought can lead to disaster.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:01 pm

Lost Memories wrote:
Heloin wrote:I don’t know much about the greens in Australia. But if rePublic’s stance is anything to go off then they must be actively trying to kill Australians, for reasons.

I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.

Or maybe they wanted that article to disappear into the memory hole...
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Postby Heloin » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:05 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.

Or maybe they wanted that article to disappear into the memory hole...

Scapegoating matey.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:09 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.

Or maybe they wanted that article to disappear into the memory hole...


Considering how much control Rupert Murdoch has over aussie media, I think the news wanted this out there so the government and big business can continue to make everyone believe that the tree huggers are the real bad guys
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:18 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:I don't know much either, i'm just seeing some stories going around on how local residents protested against the planned fires in winter and spring.

Like this one:
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The source posts have been since removed, which could mean anything, from protecting the persons involved from personal attacks, from the story being possibly false.
But guess that's the kind of news rePublic is basing his disdain for the greens.


I can understand the concern, though. Controlled burns are good, but these areas have been in a three-year long drought, and we in the US have seen that performing a controlled burn during a drought can lead to disaster.

Aboriginals have been doing it for thousands of years, and non-Aboriginals, probably since settlement, I'm sure that the RFS know that they're doing
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:24 pm

Here is a photo of Satan's face in the fires:

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Postby Shrillland » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:24 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:
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I can understand the concern, though. Controlled burns are good, but these areas have been in a three-year long drought, and we in the US have seen that performing a controlled burn during a drought can lead to disaster.

Aboriginals have been doing it for thousands of years, and non-Aboriginals, probably since settlement, I'm sure that the RFS know that they're doing


So does our forestry service, but we do still get things like the Los Alamos fire in New Mexico 20 years back, which was a controlled burn gone wrong.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:35 pm

Shrillland wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Aboriginals have been doing it for thousands of years, and non-Aboriginals, probably since settlement, I'm sure that the RFS know that they're doing


So does our forestry service, but we do still get things like the Los Alamos fire in New Mexico 20 years back, which was a controlled burn gone wrong.

Fair enough
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:37 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Or maybe they wanted that article to disappear into the memory hole...


Considering how much control Rupert Murdoch has over aussie media, I think the news wanted this out there so the government and big business can continue to make everyone believe that the tree huggers are the real bad guys

This is the ABC. Not only is there no affiliation with Murdoch, they're the polar opposite. They make the BBC look like FOX news
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Postby Lost Memories » Sat Jan 04, 2020 4:46 pm

For better news, there is a cyclone in development on the west coast.

While the south-east of the country remains dry and facing a bushfire crisis, the top end is bracing for a cyclone.
A tropical low south of Indonesia is expected to move closer to Australia's northwest coast and could develop into a cyclone, bringing heavy rain and strong winds.

If the cyclone develops, it will be the first off the WA coast for the 2019/20 season and will be called Tropical Cyclone Blake.
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:05 pm

Reading through the thread, seems it was largely caused by arsonists and the local residents refusal to allow controlled burns.
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Australian rePublic wrote:Everyone in that area of the world (including the RFS volunteer we spoke to) hate The Greens for refusing to allow hazard reduction burning, even the Aboriginals of the area, have stated that they've been burning the land for millenia, and now the Greens' won't let them. And now the Greens have the hight to claim that they've supported hazard reduction burning all along **spits on ground** how stupid do they think we are? The sooner we have a royal comission into the Greens' mishandling of the situation, the better.

Bloody Greens. If the areas they lived were subject to bush fires, you'd watch their attitude toward common sense land management change quick-smart. If the people who made decisions actually had to suffer the consequences of those decisions...


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Postby Trollzyn the Infinite » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:15 pm

Imagine the gall one must have to be the Prime Minister of Australia and fuck off to Hawaii for vacation while your country is on fire.
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Postby Costa Fierro » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:20 pm

Australian rePublic wrote:Aboriginals have been doing it for thousands of years, and non-Aboriginals, probably since settlement, I'm sure that the RFS know that they're doing


Not always. Not discrediting the current efforts, but to simply say "fucking greenies don't know what's going on" and then putting complete faith in another organisation is idiotic. As that other post said, planned burns take into consideration whether or not they could be controlled by the firefighters performing the controlled burn.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Sat Jan 04, 2020 5:22 pm

Costa Fierro wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Everyone in that area of the world (including the RFS volunteer we spoke to) hate The Greens for refusing to allow hazard reduction burning, even the Aboriginals of the area, have stated that they've been burning the land for millenia, and now the Greens' won't let them. And now the Greens have the hight to claim that they've supported hazard reduction burning all along **spits on ground** how stupid do they think we are? The sooner we have a royal comission into the Greens' mishandling of the situation, the better.

Bloody Greens. If the areas they lived were subject to bush fires, you'd watch their attitude toward common sense land management change quick-smart. If the people who made decisions actually had to suffer the consequences of those decisions...


This is fake news.

Prove it
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