Iran vs the US Megathread

[Tarsonis]

tbh the only one of those that would be a real loss on our part is the generals

Face it, nobody is going to miss the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development...

They will if they need some Siamese twins separated

[Northern Dependencies]

tbh the only one of those that would be a real loss on our part is the generals

Face it, nobody is going to miss the Secretary of Housing and Urban Development...

Aw, Carson's a pretty nice guy.

Now, Munchin on the other hand...

[Gormwood]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

[Tarsonis]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

And Sage Derby is a delightful brand of cheese.

[Washington Resistance Army]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

It was. We pretty soundly kicked the shit out of the VC and North Vietnamese until we left. Sadly our Southern Vietnamese counterparts suffered a lot of the same problems the KMT in China did and was terribly corrupt and inefficient and folded.

[US-SSR]

Would assassinating US leaders tend to divide or unite the US population behind its government? Why would Iran be different?

Because the political situation is different. In the US, despite current tensions, there still is the belief that our government is of the people, by the people, for the people. We still associate the government with ourselves. Their our leaders. Less so in Iran. Iran is in the midst of a series of popular revolts. So they have less an attachment to their leaders, and are less likely to see the death of such a guy as this one as a breach of sovereignty. Sort of “it’s the Kings fight not mine” type mentality.

As I said, it’s delicate. The US could easily muck it up.

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

[Washington Resistance Army]

Because the political situation is different. In the US, despite current tensions, there still is the belief that our government is of the people, by the people, for the people. We still associate the government with ourselves. Their our leaders. Less so in Iran. Iran is in the midst of a series of popular revolts. So they have less an attachment to their leaders, and are less likely to see the death of such a guy as this one as a breach of sovereignty. Sort of “it’s the Kings fight not mine” type mentality.

As I said, it’s delicate. The US could easily muck it up.

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

Anon this is about as worthwhile as saying the Chinese or North Korean peoples hold demonstrations in favor of their governments. No shit they do, the alternative is getting run over by an armored vehicle lol.

[Tarsonis]

Because the political situation is different. In the US, despite current tensions, there still is the belief that our government is of the people, by the people, for the people. We still associate the government with ourselves. Their our leaders. Less so in Iran. Iran is in the midst of a series of popular revolts. So they have less an attachment to their leaders, and are less likely to see the death of such a guy as this one as a breach of sovereignty. Sort of “it’s the Kings fight not mine” type mentality.

As I said, it’s delicate. The US could easily muck it up.

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

Yes the Iranian state TV showed ProState propaganda. I’m shocked shocked that there is gambling going on in this establishment.

[Gormwood]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

It was. We pretty soundly kicked the shit out of the VC and North Vietnamese until we left. Sadly our Southern Vietnamese counterparts suffered a lot of the same problems the KMT in China did and was terribly corrupt and inefficient and folded.

All those stories about how every single operation was a cakewalk.

[Tarsonis]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

It was. We pretty soundly kicked the shit out of the VC and North Vietnamese until we left. Sadly our Southern Vietnamese counterparts suffered a lot of the same problems the KMT in China did and was terribly corrupt and inefficient and folded.

We also abandoned traditional tactics and embraced the stupid idea of vertical warfare

[North German Realm]

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

Anon this is about as worthwhile as saying the Chinese or North Korean peoples hold demonstrations in favor of their governments. No shit they do, the alternative is getting run over by an armored vehicle lol.

Frankly I don't expect anyone here to believe me, but you need to realize that many of the people who demonstrate in favor of the gov't (on literally any issue) are people from the improvised suburbs that are literally so poor they' do anything for enough money to help them survive another month. Marching in a street for a few hours and shouting weird-ass chants is nothing that bad for a man who has nothing to eat, no matter how much those stuff would be against his own views.

Oh, and we're not even getting into how the Regime has spent the last 5-ish years using Soleimani as a propaganda piece to justify and glorify its imperialist ambitions in the ME. It's not surprising that some people would unironically think this guy was some sort of national hero even in the country.

[Napkizemlja]

Yeah, Iran long ago embraced assassination. Assassination is a valid tool of the state, security, foreign relations etc.

So you're OK with Iran assassinating US generals, cabinet officials...presidents? It's a valid tool of the state after all.

OK with it how? For example, the NVA were perfectly valid in waging war in Vietnam but that does not mean one would be "Okay" with American soldiers dying.

[Costa Fierro]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

It was. We pretty soundly kicked the shit out of the VC and North Vietnamese until we left. Sadly our Southern Vietnamese counterparts suffered a lot of the same problems the KMT in China did and was terribly corrupt and inefficient and folded.

America is like that guy that picks shitty unstable girlfriends and wonders why all that money sunk into the relationship didn't make it better.

[North German Realm]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

It was. We pretty soundly kicked the shit out of the VC and North Vietnamese until we left. Sadly our Southern Vietnamese counterparts suffered a lot of the same problems the KMT in China did and was terribly corrupt and inefficient and folded.

Not picking a side (or creating a new faction) that didn't suffer from gross incompetence and corruption has been the main problem with The US foreign policy in East Asia since the world war ended tbh.

[Costa Fierro]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

How unsurprising that you think America is going to war with Iran.

[Aclion]

2020
trump is reelected
immediately declares war on Iran
thousands of genZ kids are drafted into the military

---

Be shepherd in Iran
start hearing Lil Yaughty playing in the distance to the sound of rotary engines
helicopters start flying over me
gucci gang starts blasting from helicopter speakers
whole fucking fuckin area around me gets MOABed
choppers drop off enemy troops
get smoked by a 17 year old with a pickle rick sticker on his helmet
he does the fortnite dance over my body then yeets me into a bush

[Nakena]

Anon this is about as worthwhile as saying the Chinese or North Korean peoples hold demonstrations in favor of their governments. No shit they do, the alternative is getting run over by an armored vehicle lol.

Frankly I don't expect anyone here to believe me, but you need to realize that many of the people who demonstrate in favor of the gov't (on literally any issue) are people from the improvised suburbs that are literally so poor they' do anything for enough money to help them survive another month. Marching in a street for a few hours and shouting weird-ass chants is nothing that bad for a man who has nothing to eat, no matter how much those stuff would be against his own views.

Oh, and we're not even getting into how the Regime has spent the last 5-ish years using Soleimani as a propaganda piece to justify and glorify its imperialist ambitions in the ME. It's not surprising that some people would unironically think this guy was some sort of national hero even in the country.

So was Soleimani popular at all? As in the way that he may have been a little too popular for the Mullahs if you catch my drift.

[The East Marches II]

Yeah, Iran long ago embraced assassination. Assassination is a valid tool of the state, security, foreign relations etc.

So you're OK with Iran assassinating US generals, cabinet officials...presidents? It's a valid tool of the state after all.

Acknowledging reality is a far cry from something being "ok". If we want to talk about something or someone being morally indictable, perhaps your equivocation about the previous administrations dronings should be discussed. Your only real panic is the same the rest of our so called geniuses on Capitol Hill have, namely that it was done by Trump. When it is your class of fellows who order a man to die from above, it's perfectly fine. Especially say when it's an American citizen.

[North German Realm]

Frankly I don't expect anyone here to believe me, but you need to realize that many of the people who demonstrate in favor of the gov't (on literally any issue) are people from the improvised suburbs that are literally so poor they' do anything for enough money to help them survive another month. Marching in a street for a few hours and shouting weird-ass chants is nothing that bad for a man who has nothing to eat, no matter how much those stuff would be against his own views.

Oh, and we're not even getting into how the Regime has spent the last 5-ish years using Soleimani as a propaganda piece to justify and glorify its imperialist ambitions in the ME. It's not surprising that some people would unironically think this guy was some sort of national hero even in the country.

So was Soleimani popular at all? As in the way that he may have been a little too popular for the Mullahs if you catch my drift.

He was a propaganda piece for the regime to justify its imperialism in the ME, and was utilized as such (i.e. the lie that he was "responsible" for the eradication of the ISIS in Iran, glorifying his actions in Syria and Iraq, etc.) by every element of the regime, and there were rumors about him running for President after Rohani's term ends in a couple of years. Among the population, those who bought into the propaganda loved him, but that number is considerably lower than what one would expect. I don't think this was an inside job, however. Khamenei isn't one to remove a good propaganda piece, no matter how big he gets for his breeches.

[Northern Dependencies]

Because the political situation is different. In the US, despite current tensions, there still is the belief that our government is of the people, by the people, for the people. We still associate the government with ourselves. Their our leaders. Less so in Iran. Iran is in the midst of a series of popular revolts. So they have less an attachment to their leaders, and are less likely to see the death of such a guy as this one as a breach of sovereignty. Sort of “it’s the Kings fight not mine” type mentality.

As I said, it’s delicate. The US could easily muck it up.

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

You're literally posting Iranian propaganda.

Jesus Christ dude.

[Northern Dependencies]

And Vietnam was just an obscure backwater that would be blitzed without much effort.

This is your daily reminder that we're still not going to invade Iran.

[The Alma Mater]

And that would be why tens of thousands of Iranians demonstrated today...in favor of their government?

You're literally posting Iranian propaganda.

Jesus Christ dude.

Considering most people here are posting American propaganda that does seem fair and balanced.

[Northern Dependencies]

You're literally posting Iranian propaganda.

Jesus Christ dude.

Considering most people here are posting American propaganda that does seem fair and balanced.

I'm curious what you would consider to be American propaganda.

[Torisakia]

So are we at war with Iran or not? I need to know because if I get drafted then I don't need to go to class this semester.

[Loben The 2nd]

So are we at war with Iran or not? I need to know because if I get drafted then I don't need to go to class this semester.

no.