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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:43 pm

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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:44 pm

Kowani wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
Gotta love the conspiracy theorists coming out of the woodwork...

Most of G&D’s posts are satire.

Sorry, never met him before
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Postby Valrifell » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:44 pm

New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....


We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:45 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kowani wrote:Most of G&D’s posts are satire.

Sorry, never met him before

Fair.
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Postby Aureumterra » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:45 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....


We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.

It’s more about justice, killing the man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops over the last 2 decades
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:46 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Kowani wrote:Most of G&D’s posts are satire.

Sorry, never met him before

Hello nice to meet you. I do not know what people have told you but I assure you under no circumstances am I a poe.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:47 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.

It’s more about justice, killing the man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops over the last 2 decades

I don’t remember the CEO of Lockheed Martin being attacked...
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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Kowani wrote:
Aureumterra wrote:It’s more about justice, killing the man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops over the last 2 decades

I don’t remember the CEO of Lockheed Martin being attacked...


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Postby New Paine » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:48 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....


We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.


I opposed Trump’s withdrawal of Syria and I support responding with deadly force when American blood is shed by foreign power. Now, those individuals you mentioned just love Trump the man, regardless of the polices. Mostly because he offends leftists, that is there number one issue.

Anyway.....to get back on topic with the thread. I support Trump’s decision to respond like this. An American contractor was killed and Iran needs to learn that they can’t fuck with us like that.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:50 pm

Greed and Death wrote:My predictions War with Iran. Draft brought back. The draft will be completely random and just happen to randomly send young registered Democrats to war in Iran just before the election.


I dont get your angle. Where is the profit for you?
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Postby New Paine » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:50 pm

Aureumterra wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.

It’s more about justice, killing the man responsible for the deaths of hundreds of US troops over the last 2 decades


No, it’s about supporting Trump no matter what he does because he offends leftists. This is coming from someone that opposed the withdrawal from Syria and supports this decision.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:51 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Kowani wrote:I don’t remember the CEO of Lockheed Martin being attacked...


How very elitist of you

You want to explain how?
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Postby Novus America » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:51 pm

New Paine wrote:
Valrifell wrote:
We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.


I opposed Trump’s withdrawal of Syria and I support responding with deadly force when American blood is shed by foreign power. Now, those individuals you mentioned just love Trump the man, regardless of the polices. Mostly because he offends leftists, that is there number one issue.

Anyway.....to get back on topic with the thread. I support Trump’s decision to respond like this. An American contractor was killed and Iran needs to learn that they can’t fuck with us like that.


I support the action of course but I think we should have played it coy and said unknown little green men did it.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:52 pm

New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....

I opposed the withdrawal (to an extent. I do think we need to get out of Syria, but not like that), but fully support this move. It seems a lot of the people opposing it are doing so simply because Trump did it and anything Trump does is automatically bad, but people saying it’ll lead to an all out war need a history lesson
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Postby New Paine » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:53 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....

I opposed the withdrawal (to an extent. I do think we need to get out of Syria, but not like that), but fully support this move. It seems a lot of the people opposing it are doing so simply because Trump did it and anything Trump does is automatically bad, but people saying it’ll lead to an all out war need a history lesson


Again, I don’t want to keep spamming this but I opposed withdraw of Syria and fully support this move. And if you want call me a “neocon cuck”, I would wear that badge with pride.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:54 pm

Valrifell wrote:
New Paine wrote:I wonder how Paleoconservative Trump lovers are going to respond to this....


We've got folks who supported Trump's withdrawal from Syria abruptly doing an about face and clamoring for more escalation in Iran.

Again, your fears of an all out war are needless
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Postby Ifreann » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:54 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Best of luck with developing bone spurs.

I am already a vet and a member of the Trump Cabinet so I am safe. Really busy right now got to work on this proposal for bringing back the draft in the event of the Iranian war for the President.

Being a vet just means use have useful experience. Welcome back to the army, Sgt. And Death.


Ethel mermania wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:My predictions War with Iran. Draft brought back. The draft will be completely random and just happen to randomly send young registered Democrats to war in Iran just before the election.


I dont get your angle. Where is the profit for you?

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Postby Totally Not OEP » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:54 pm

Kowani wrote:
Totally Not OEP wrote:
How very elitist of you

You want to explain how?


You're placing more value on the lives of the elite than the hundreds of average Americans killed while serving this country due to this fuckface. Mind telling me why their deaths still aren't worthy of retaliation?
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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:54 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:My predictions War with Iran. Draft brought back. The draft will be completely random and just happen to randomly send young registered Democrats to war in Iran just before the election.


I dont get your angle. Where is the profit for you?

Well someone will have to fund the insurgency in Iran once the central government collapses and they do pay in oil.

Also with so many young man drafted there will be lots of lonely 18 year old women. Just call me Greedy Jody until the war sorts itself out.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:55 pm

New Paine wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I opposed the withdrawal (to an extent. I do think we need to get out of Syria, but not like that), but fully support this move. It seems a lot of the people opposing it are doing so simply because Trump did it and anything Trump does is automatically bad, but people saying it’ll lead to an all out war need a history lesson


Again, I don’t want to keep spamming this but I opposed withdraw of Syria and fully support this move. And if you want call me a “neocon cuck”, I would wear that badge with pride.

I’ll have to disagree there, I do think we need to eventually withdraw from Syria, and by extension the middle east, but for now, this is nothing but sweet justice and a patriotic moment
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:56 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Kowani wrote:You want to explain how?


You're placing more value on the lives of the elite than the hundreds of average Americans killed while serving this country due to this fuckface. Mind telling me why their deaths still aren't worthy of retaliation?

Because American soldiers are monsters who kill civilians and they’re simply natives defending their homeland from bad American soldier man /s
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Postby Kowani » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:57 pm

Totally Not OEP wrote:
Kowani wrote:You want to explain how?


You're placing more value on the lives of the elite than the hundreds of average Americans killed while serving this country due to this fuckface. Mind telling me why their deaths still aren't worthy of retaliation?

…No, I’m blaming corporations for their deaths. I’m not sure how you read my post and thought “oh, he doesn’t care about soldiers”.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:57 pm

Ifreann wrote:
Greed and Death wrote:I am already a vet and a member of the Trump Cabinet so I am safe. Really busy right now got to work on this proposal for bringing back the draft in the event of the Iranian war for the President.

Being a vet just means use have useful experience. Welcome back to the army, Sgt. And Death.


Ethel mermania wrote:
I dont get your angle. Where is the profit for you?

Shares in Blackwater?


I thought they were private.
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Greed and Death » Thu Jan 02, 2020 8:58 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Being a vet just means use have useful experience. Welcome back to the army, Sgt. And Death.



Shares in Blackwater?


I thought they were private.

I am an accredited investor, so I could still become an investor in a private company.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Jan 02, 2020 9:00 pm

Greed and Death wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
I dont get your angle. Where is the profit for you?

Well someone will have to fund the insurgency in Iran once the central government collapses and they do pay in oil.

Also with so many young man drafted there will be lots of lonely 18 year old women. Just call me Greedy Jody until the war sorts itself out.


I got some really bad news for you. You are way to old for 18 year olds. You dont have a shot with them. 23 ok maybe, 18, you may as well be grandpa.
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The West won the world not by the superiority of its ideas or values or religion … but rather by its superiority in applying organized violence. Westerners often forget this fact; non-Westerners never do.
--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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