Iran vs the US Megathread

[Plzen]

"We still have several thousand nuclear weapons stockpiled here and there, but we're still going to throw a tamper tantrum when someone we don't like tries to get one. No, I don't see any inconsistency, why?"

Truly Trump is just like everything I've always disliked about the United States, except more.

[Thermodolia]

Not yet. But considering Trump stupidly left the Iran Nuclear Deal, the are probably going to tr to now. Only Europe’s pleading has kept them in the deal.

The IR isn't in the position to try anything. They are toasted by Covid-19 and the implosion of the oil market.

This. The IR isn’t going to even harass US or allied shipping because they don’t want to push the already tense domestic situation overboard

[Novus America]

Sings in a truly horrible voice:
Thread is dead, thread is deaddd, zombie, zombie, zombie.

[Insaanistan]

Not yet. But considering Trump stupidly left the Iran Nuclear Deal, the are probably going to tr to now. Only Europe’s pleading has kept them in the deal.

That deal they weren't honoring in the first place? Okay

There’s no actual proof of that, as far as I know. Even if there was, why would he allow them to openly do it by pulling out of the deal.

[Gormwood]

That deal they weren't honoring in the first place? Okay

There’s no actual proof of that, as far as I know. Even if there was, why would he allow them to openly do it by pulling out of the deal.

Nothing to do with Iran, it was a petty attempt to erase Obama from the timeline

[US-SSR]

The point being that regional powers and/or global players that play chicken with US assets should get the same treatment rhetorically, and that the reason Putin fares better than the mullahs on that score is that Trump owes his election to the former and wants to keep on his good side in case he can help in 2020. The numbnuts who blew up the Cole weren't Revolutionary Guards, they were hired stooges. Maybe the Russian MiGs have explosives too, why not sink them since we're shooting down pissant Iranian speedboats? Again the answer is because Trump is a Russian puppet and Putin's bumboy.

Don't be ridiculous. Of course you don't treat the two the same. Shoot down a Russian jet and there's going to be a lot of headaches going around, moreso than if you'd done nothing.

Sink an Iranian boat and Iranian militants stop harassing you with boats and their gov just has to eat it.

Is that like "assassinate an Iranian general and militants stop setting off bombs and mortars and rockets?" How'd that work out again?

And one last word on the subject of the 2016 election. Russia's interference, like Republican gerrymandering, needless ID requirements, etc., was aimed at suppressing the vote for Clinton. Fewer then 78,000 votes in three states out of over 136 million cast gave the worst president in American history his margin of "victory" (btw he lost the popular vote by 3 million). That's enough evidence for me, even without Trump's abject submission to Putin and all things Russia.

[Farnhamia]

Now containing G&D's thread on the current fracas.

[Ameriganastan]

Now containing G&D's thread on the current fracas.

...Huh?

[Tarsonis]

Now containing G&D's thread on the current fracas.

...Huh?

Merged threads, since that thread had posts from before I revived this one, it's kind of retroactive. Starts like 2 pages back.

[Aikoriland]

Iran is playing a dangerous game. You can only get away with poking the bear for so long.

[Tarsonis]

Don't be ridiculous. Of course you don't treat the two the same. Shoot down a Russian jet and there's going to be a lot of headaches going around, moreso than if you'd done nothing.

Sink an Iranian boat and Iranian militants stop harassing you with boats and their gov just has to eat it.

Is that like "assassinate an Iranian general and militants stop setting off bombs and mortars and rockets?" How'd that work out again?

Worked out fine, actually.

[Novus America]

Iran is playing a dangerous game. You can only get away with poking the bear for so long.

Well this is more like poking a praying mantis...

[Insaanistan]

Is that like "assassinate an Iranian general and militants stop setting off bombs and mortars and rockets?" How'd that work out again?

Worked out fine, actually.

I’d hardly call escalation in tensions, a nation in mourning, and the deaths of hundreds in proxy wars fine.

[Tarsonis]

Worked out fine, actually.

I’d hardly call escalation in tensions, a nation in mourning, and the deaths of hundreds in proxy wars fine.

Those deaths were happening for unrelated reasons, I don't care much for the Iran's propaganda shows, and tensions escalated and deescalated with little to know loss on our side. So yeah, worked out fine.

[Insaanistan]

I’d hardly call escalation in tensions, a nation in mourning, and the deaths of hundreds in proxy wars fine.

Those deaths were happening for unrelated reasons, I don't care much for the Iran's propaganda shows, and tensions escalated and deescalated with little to know loss on our side. So yeah, worked out fine.

For us. Not for the Middle Easterners who died because of the proxy wars. Don’t get me wrong: Iran and Saudi Arabia are also to blame, but we can’t ignore what consequences our actions have simply because they don’t affect us specifically.

[Tarsonis]

Those deaths were happening for unrelated reasons, I don't care much for the Iran's propaganda shows, and tensions escalated and deescalated with little to know loss on our side. So yeah, worked out fine.

For us. Not for the Middle Easterners who died because of the proxy wars. Don’t get me wrong: Iran and Saudi Arabia are also to blame, but we can’t ignore what consequences our actions have simply because they don’t affect us specifically.

Those proxy wars were already happening. Killing Soleimani didn't cause those.

[Gormwood]

Worked out fine, actually.

I’d hardly call escalation in tensions, a nation in mourning, and the deaths of hundreds in proxy wars fine.

And hundreds of U.S. military personnel suffering traumatic brain damage from the retaliatory strike is fine too! /s

[Tarsonis]

I’d hardly call escalation in tensions, a nation in mourning, and the deaths of hundreds in proxy wars fine.

And hundreds of U.S. military personnel suffering traumatic brain damage from the retaliatory strike is fine too! /s

Concussions

[Gormwood]

And hundreds of U.S. military personnel suffering traumatic brain damage from the retaliatory strike is fine too! /s

Concussions

More Than 100 Troops Have Brain Injuries From Iran Missile Strike, Pentagon Says

More than 100 American service members have traumatic brain injuries from Iranian airstrikes on Al Asad Air Base in Iraq in January, the Defense Department said, a number that was more than 50 percent higher than previously disclosed.

Of the 109 troops who have been diagnosed with brain injuries, 76 had returned to duty, officials said Monday.

“We are grateful to the efforts of our medical professionals who have worked diligently to ensure the appropriate level of care for our service members, which has enabled nearly 70 percent of those diagnosed to return to duty,” said Alyssa Farah, the Pentagon press secretary.

The latest tally, which has steadily grown since the Jan. 8 strike, drew a sharp contrast with the assertion by the Trump administration in the hours after the attack that no Americans were hurt. The number also underscored the unseen effects of traumatic brain injuries, which sometimes do not manifest symptoms for days or weeks but can have long-term physical or mental effects.

So the Pentagon apparently blew simple concussion way out of proportion. Sure. Way to support the troops. Are you the Black Knight and amputations are just a scratch to you?

[North German Realm]

What does Iran have to do with the United States? The United States should pull their troops out of the Middle East.

That zone is international waters. A major trade hubsput that the IR has literally been committing piracy in since like, 1980s. It's a shame that it falls to a person like Trump to do what's basically common sense -and should have been done a lot earlier.

[Tarsonis]

https://www.newsweek.com/iran-responds- ... ry-1499593


How cute, Iran thinks its floatilla of toys can go head to head with the 5th fleet.

[Tarsonis]

Concussions

More Than 100 Troops Have Brain Injuries From Iran Missile Strike, Pentagon Says

More than 100 American service members have traumatic brain injuries from Iranian airstrikes on Al Asad Air Base in Iraq in January, the Defense Department said, a number that was more than 50 percent higher than previously disclosed.

Of the 109 troops who have been diagnosed with brain injuries, 76 had returned to duty, officials said Monday.

“We are grateful to the efforts of our medical professionals who have worked diligently to ensure the appropriate level of care for our service members, which has enabled nearly 70 percent of those diagnosed to return to duty,” said Alyssa Farah, the Pentagon press secretary.

The latest tally, which has steadily grown since the Jan. 8 strike, drew a sharp contrast with the assertion by the Trump administration in the hours after the attack that no Americans were hurt. The number also underscored the unseen effects of traumatic brain injuries, which sometimes do not manifest symptoms for days or weeks but can have long-term physical or mental effects.

So the Pentagon apparently blew simple concussion way out of proportion. Sure. Way to support the troops. Are you the Black Knight and amputations are just a scratch to you?

Concussions are classified as TBI's dude. Sounds more like NY Times is using the more dire sounding term for effect.

[Heloin]

What does Iran have to do with the United States? The United States should pull their troops out of the Middle East.

That zone is international waters. A major trade hubsput that the IR has literally been committing piracy in since like, 1980s. It's a shame that it falls to a person like Trump to do what's basically common sense -and should have been done a lot earlier.

None of the Persian Gulf is international waters.

[Proctopeo]

That zone is international waters. A major trade hubsput that the IR has literally been committing piracy in since like, 1980s. It's a shame that it falls to a person like Trump to do what's basically common sense -and should have been done a lot earlier.

None of the Persian Gulf is international waters.

All oceans in the world belong to America.

[Tarsonis]

None of the Persian Gulf is international waters.

All oceans in the world belong to America.

Nah, we sold the Antarctic Ocean to the penguins for memes.