Autistic Discussion Thread

[Agarntrop]

So, there are a lot of threads on NSG that focus around particular polticial, racial, ethnic, sexual, or gendered groups. However, I have noticed that no such thread exists on NSG for autistic people, which I have met a lot of on NSG and I think deserve a thread of their own to educate people about, inform people about, and discuss autism.

Personally, I myself was diagnosed with aspergers syndrome in 2014 when I was a child. I've always been at best indifferent to social relationships and at worst paranoid about them, and removed from my peers, especially recently. But I suspect things will get better for me.

Anyway, may the thread commence!

EDIT: Links to suicide resources

Asperger Syndrome - 43 - 49%
Classical Autism - 7 - 8%
Childhood Disintegrative Disorder - 1 - 1%
Atypical Autism - 1 - 1%
Neurotypical (not autistic) - 27 - 31%

Daryl Hannahn- 0 - 0%
Dan Aykroyd - 5 - 25%
Courtney Love - 0 - 0%
Susan Boyle - 2 - 10%
Anne Hegerty - 0 - 0%
Chris Packham - 4 - 20%
Greta Thunberg - 9 - 45%
Other (specify) - 0 - 0%

Jerry Seinfeld - 4 - 13%
Robin Williams - 6 -19%
Thomas Jefferson - 1 - 3%
Abraham Lincoln - 5 - 16%
Mozart - 3 -10%
Andy Warhol - 1 - 3%
Nikola Tesla - 9 -29%
Other (please specify) - 2 - 6%

Negatively - 3 - 6%
Positively (please explain) - 0 - No votes
It hasn't impacted them - 4 - 9%
I am already diagnosed - 26- 55%
I am neurotypical and do not seek a diagnosis- 12 - 26%
Other (please explain) - 2 - 4%

Number of peeps advocating autistic elimination/erasure/genocide etc.: 2

[United Muscovite Nations]

I don't have a diagnosis of ASD, but my psychiatrist is trying to set me up with an autism specialist because she thinks I probably have something on it. I don't know what good a diagnosis would do as an adult though.

[Chernoslavia]

I don't have a diagnosis of ASD, but my psychiatrist is trying to set me up with an autism specialist because she thinks I probably have something on it. I don't know what good a diagnosis would do as an adult though.

Seeing any psychiatrist will almost always lead to a diagnosis of something. Rarely will someone tell you there's nothing wrong with you. So unless you're okay with carrying the negative connotations of being labeled autistic just bail.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I don't have a diagnosis of ASD, but my psychiatrist is trying to set me up with an autism specialist because she thinks I probably have something on it. I don't know what good a diagnosis would do as an adult though.

Seeing any psychiatrist will almost always lead to a diagnosis of something. Rarely will someone tell you there's nothing wrong with you. So unless you're okay with carrying the negative connotations of being labeled autistic just bail.

I have other mental health issues which I need to resolve, so that's not an option.

[Naustaria]

I was diagnosed as autistic when I was in the 3rd grade. It's not really a big deal anymore as my social skills have improved to the point to where most people don't notice it.

[Nuroblav]

I'm pretty sure I have SCD (which was only designated as an actual thing in 2013), which is similar but not quite the same.

[Naustaria]

I'm pretty sure I have SCD (which was only designated as an actual thing in 2013), which is similar but not quite the same.

Isn't that just the new term for Asperger's?

[Nakena]

Maybe you should add "High-functioning autism" as option.

[Nuroblav]

I'm pretty sure I have SCD (which was only designated as an actual thing in 2013), which is similar but not quite the same.

Isn't that just the new term for Asperger's?

I hadn't heard that it was a new term for it, but I think you might be right. It appears the diagnosis of Asperger's was removed from DSM-5 in the same year SCD was introduced to it. Seeing as they seem very similar, I guess that makes sense. Thanks!

[Agarntrop]

Maybe you should add "High-functioning autism" as option.

"HFA is not a recognized diagnosis"

[Naustaria]

Isn't that just the new term for Asperger's?

I hadn't heard that it was a new term for it, but I think you might be right. It appears the diagnosis of Asperger's was removed from DSM-5 in the same year SCD was introduced to it. Seeing as they seem very similar, I guess that makes sense. Thanks!

Cheers!

[SD_Film Artists]

Isn't that just the new term for Asperger's?

I hadn't heard that it was a new term for it, but I think you might be right. It appears the diagnosis of Asperger's was removed from DSM-5 in the same year SCD was introduced to it. Seeing as they seem very similar, I guess that makes sense. Thanks!

While Aspergers is still a recognised diagnosis, it is more common for new diagnosis of Aspergers to be named 'Autistic Spectrum Disorder' or 'Level 1 Autism'.

Some people, especialy in the more left-wing online activist groups would claim that "Aspergers should be removed"; when pressed on the issue they'd say that "it's autism so just say autism" which although technically true it's also being willfuly vague as autism is an umbrella term; you can't replace something with an umbrella term unless you're just trying to be vague on purpose, as if aspergers is supposed to be a secret or something.

[Agarntrop]

I hadn't heard that it was a new term for it, but I think you might be right. It appears the diagnosis of Asperger's was removed from DSM-5 in the same year SCD was introduced to it. Seeing as they seem very similar, I guess that makes sense. Thanks!

While Aspergers is still a recognised diagnosis, it is more common for new diagnosis of Aspergers to be named 'Autistic Spectrum Disorder' or 'Level 1 Autism'.

Some people, especialy in online activist groups would claim that "Aspergers should be removed"; when pressed on the issue they'd say that "it's autism so just say autism" which although technically true it's also being willfuly vague as autism is an umbrella term; you can't replace something with an umbrella term unless you're just trying to be vague on purpose, as if aspergers is supposed to be a secret or something.

It bewilders me how people can be so ignorant to think people with aspergers and severe autism are remotely similar.

[United Muscovite Nations]

Maybe you should add "High-functioning autism" as option.

"HFA is not a recognized diagnosis"

Neither is Asperger's.

[Agarntrop]

"HFA is not a recognized diagnosis"

Neither is Asperger's.

Well, I don't really wanna wipeout the poll and they are also extremely similar.

[SD_Film Artists]

While Aspergers is still a recognised diagnosis, it is more common for new diagnosis of Aspergers to be named 'Autistic Spectrum Disorder' or 'Level 1 Autism'.

Some people, especialy in online activist groups would claim that "Aspergers should be removed"; when pressed on the issue they'd say that "it's autism so just say autism" which although technically true it's also being willfuly vague as autism is an umbrella term; you can't replace something with an umbrella term unless you're just trying to be vague on purpose, as if aspergers is supposed to be a secret or something.

It bewilders me how people can be so ignorant to think people with aspergers and severe autism are remotely similar.

I don't think that they genuinely believe that they're the same, it's more that they consider making distinctions to be impolite or "ableist" even if said distinctions are simply stating a diagnosis rather than trying to be overtly elitist. Also extra points if they try to equate the medical condition to being a nazi sympathiser*

*Hans Asperger had links to nazi germany, which is apparently hugely relevant despite the fact that it wasn't even Dr Hans' idea to name the condition after him and 99.9% of Aspergers people don't idolise the man himself or his politics, infact the 'nazi' news wasn't even known about until around 2 years ago which is a very small time frame considering that the diagnosis has existed for several decades.

[SD_Film Artists]

"HFA is not a recognized diagnosis"

Neither is Asperger's.

It is, it's just that new diagnoses are less common especially in America.

[Durzan]

I'm not officially diagnosed with Aspergers, but I apparently come across as an aspie enough to get a 504 of it without getting an official diagnosis. But, I am officially am diagnosed with ADHD as well, so not sure what that would make me.

[Agarntrop]

It bewilders me how people can be so ignorant to think people with aspergers and severe autism are remotely similar.

I don't think that they genuinely believe that they're the same, it's more that they consider making distinctions to be impolite or "ableist" even if said distinctions are simply stating a diagnosis rather than trying to be overtly elitist. Also extra points if they try to equate the medical condition to being a nazi sympathiser*

*Hans Asperger had links to nazi germany, which is apparently hugely relevant despite the fact that it wasn't even Dr Hans' idea to name the condition after him and 99.9% of Aspergers people don't idolise the man himself or his politics, infact the 'nazi' news wasn't even known about until around 2 years ago which is a very small time frame considering that the diagnosis has existed for several decades.

So you're saying if someone commited henious and evil acts it becomes neccessary to discredit their discoveries?

[United Muscovite Nations]

Neither is Asperger's.

It is, it's just that new diagnoses are less common especially in America.

There are no new diagnoses in America because it was removed as a valid diagnosis.

[SD_Film Artists]

I don't think that they genuinely believe that they're the same, it's more that they consider making distinctions to be impolite or "ableist" even if said distinctions are simply stating a diagnosis rather than trying to be overtly elitist. Also extra points if they try to equate the medical condition to being a nazi sympathiser*

*Hans Asperger had links to nazi germany, which is apparently hugely relevant despite the fact that it wasn't even Dr Hans' idea to name the condition after him and 99.9% of Aspergers people don't idolise the man himself or his politics, infact the 'nazi' news wasn't even known about until around 2 years ago which is a very small time frame considering that the diagnosis has existed for several decades.

So you're saying if someone commited henious and evil acts it becomes neccessary to discredit their discoveries?

Something like that, though it's more like:


Dr Hans had links with Nazis
?
?
A modern form of autism was given Dr Hans' name.
?
The condition itself is bad and should be removed with no replacement other than an umbrella term.
?
profit.

Yet they're fine with Hugo Boss, Porsche and Mitsubishi. Not that they *shouldn't* be fine with them, but if you're going to go on a witch hunt for WW2 history you may as well be consistant about it; further proof that they're just exploiting it to push an agenda rather than actually having a problem with whatever history Dr Asperger had.

[Shrillland]

I have Hyperlexia myself, which is considered to be on the spectrum, I was diagnosed when I was three in 1991 before there was any real awareness.

Also Agrantrop, I'll warn you now, these threads tend to pop up a few times a year and then dissipate, no particular reason behind it.

[SD_Film Artists]

It is, it's just that new diagnoses are less common especially in America.

There are no new diagnoses in America because it was removed as a valid diagnosis.

Yes, in America.

In Europe it's very much still a thing. Sometimes Aspergers would be bunched-up as "Autistic Spectrum Disorder/Condition" but doctors can still legitimately describe you as having Aspergers Syndrome and it's also recognised by major autism charities such as the UK National Autistic Society.

[Modu]

I am not on the autism spectrum, but I strongly sympathize for those suffering from the disorder.

People suffering from autism, along with any other mental illness should receive a monthly stipend for life to help with therapy and living costs (although the state should not determine how the money is spent). The state should actively fund research into autism. Those promoting the vaccine-autism connection myth should be fined, lose any medical and or teaching licenses, and be forced to undergo mandatory scientific literacy education.

[United Muscovite Nations]

I am not on the autism spectrum, but I strongly sympathize for those suffering from the disorder.

People suffering from autism, along with any other mental illness should receive a monthly stipend for life to help with therapy and living costs (although the state should not determine how the money is spent). The state should actively fund research into autism. Those promoting the vaccine-autism connection myth should be fined, lose any medical and or teaching licenses, and be forced to undergo mandatory scientific literacy education.

There also needs to be more funding for those diagnosed as adults. Very often they fall through the cracks of the system.