2020 Taiwanese Election

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Looks like China just got a huge Fuck Off.

In Blow to Beijing, Taiwan Re-elects Tsai Ing-wen as President

Cue diatribes from CCP sympathizers.

IM's arrived already. You are a bit late. <.>

[Catburg]

Meet the true co-presidents of China.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_Think_and_Ah_Tsai

Meowww! :3

ROC is a feline state.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Last time I was in China, and I don't intend to visit China again until the CCP is overthrown, the streets were filthy, people talked loudly and even the young people in Shanghai casually spit on the street, and people forced their way onto train carriages despite the totalitarian state apparatus. The country is a totalitarian, Dickensian dystopia where the rich fuck the poor with complete and total impunity and anyone who challenges the status quo is summarily dealt with like the clearly defective automaton that must be destroyed to purify the assembly line. Taiwan, by contrast, is much cleaner and far more developed and orderly despite the much higher degree of civil rights and political freedoms.

Even the UK where I studied feels much cleaner and more orderly compared to China, and Britain is an archetypal parliamentary democracy.

That is the irony. The most totalitarian regimes are not actually the most clean and orderly.
And Xi’s Dickensian dystopia as you so eloquently put it certainly does not fit the bill.

I have never been to the mainland PRC (and never will go there) but my family who have been say the same thing. That Japan for example is far more clean and ordered. But Japan is a parliamentary democracy as well.

Japan has been by far the most advanced and orderly country I've ever had the fortune of visiting, TWICE, and I have to say I'm impressed. If Japan's population was the same as China's, its GDP would be 3 1/2 times larger than China's. Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are simply culturally, politically and economically superior to China in every way, shape and form. And way more clean and orderly too. Even Hong Kong and Singapore are not as repressive as China and they're doing pretty well. But expect pro-CCP shills to only ever compare China to India or Malaysia.

[Catburg]

That is the irony. The most totalitarian regimes are not actually the most clean and orderly.
And Xi’s Dickensian dystopia as you so eloquently put it certainly does not fit the bill.

I have never been to the mainland PRC (and never will go there) but my family who have been say the same thing. That Japan for example is far more clean and ordered. But Japan is a parliamentary democracy as well.

Japan has been by far the most advanced and orderly country I've ever had the fortune of visiting, TWICE, and I have to say I'm impressed. If Japan's population was the same as China's, its GDP would be 3 1/2 times larger than China's. Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are simply culturally, politically and economically superior to China in every way, shape and form. And way more clean and orderly too. Even Hong Kong and Singapore are not as repressive as China and they're doing pretty well. But expect pro-CCP shills to only ever compare China to India or Malaysia.

Exactly. Fuck communism and fuck PRC.

[Glorious Hong Kong]

Looks like China just got a huge Fuck Off.

In Blow to Beijing, Taiwan Re-elects Tsai Ing-wen as President

Cue diatribes from CCP sympathizers.

Do you smell what the ROC is cooking?

That would make an awesome headline.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

Looks like China just got a huge Fuck Off.

In Blow to Beijing, Taiwan Re-elects Tsai Ing-wen as President

Cue diatribes from CCP sympathizers.

You’re late to the party, Gauth. IM’s already here praising authority and order and China over messy democracy and Taiwan apparently.

[Nouveau Yathrib]

It's telling that the only people able to freely vote, as indicative of HK and Taiwan elections, freely vote against CCP rule.. both by near 60%.

Although it's perhaps disturbing that 35-40% vote for.

I also note how quickly celebrities, companies and other vocally express their concern for Australia fires, which is absolutely fine, but what isn't fine is their silence on China atrocities.

Reunification vs independence is not the only wedge issue in Taiwanese politics; it might not even be the most important factor in determining how Taiwanese people vote. There are legitimate reasons why businesspeople, social conservatives, Taiwanese aborigines, and other segments of Taiwanese society would vote for the KMT candidate or at least be skeptical of the DPP.

Anyway, congrats to President Tsai on her reelection! I think the KMT would've narrowly won were it not for the Hong Kong protests and Beijing's attempts to hack the results. This is kind of like 1996 all over again lol

[Greater Persian State]

My dream is the one day China will be federalized and run in a manner inspired by Sun and his three principles.


But as long as the CCP gangsters are running the country, this will never happen.

It puzzles me that why people who claim to hold the mantle of Sun's legacy hug a dystopian dictatorship.

[Greater Persian State]

I much prefer uniforms, soldiers, clear lines of authority, order.

This is an ideological preference.

You prefer dictatorship? Very cool.

[Bombadil]

DPP maintained a majority in the Legislature as well.

Best of all is questions in China, who are generally told the people of Taiwan love China and yearn for reunification. Comments, soon blocked, expressed surprise at the results and question why they're always led to expect the pro-Beijing camp to win and then see overwhelming votes against.

The more people question the better.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Congratulations to Tsai Ing-wen on her landslide victory. China failed to successfully rig the 2020 election through their fake news and CCP-affiliated network of Triads. In fact, Tsai Ing-wen actually won more votes than any other presidential candidate since democratization and the end of martial law. The Taiwanese people can now lead by example and show the Chinese people that democracy can work in China too. We also have the people of Hong Kong to show them that "One Country, Two Systems" doesn't fucking work.

We all are rooting for Tsai, left and right. This goes to show just how the people rightfully despise the totalitarian oligarchy that is the CCP. We shouldn't get too complacent though, as the Beijing regime will do everything in its power to try to rig the election for Han and his cronies.

I consider the CCP to be a far-right neo-Nazi fascist regime that has abandoned its original far-left communist roots, so it makes sense for (most) leftists to unite with rightist conservatives to oppose the current regime. For all of my criticisms of left-wing politics in recent years and for all of our oftentimes heated disagreements, this is one thing I must give leftists credit for. I won't stop criticizing the Left in America and Europe (through my main nation New Bremerton), but it's also a fact that the Taiwanese pro-independence DPP that Tsai is a part of is considered liberal and left-wing in contrast to the traditionally right-wing conservative (and formerly far-right authoritarian fascist) KMT that desires unification with the far-right fascist CCP. While I have my criticisms of small-c communism and Marxism as an ideology, the Commies I'm giving the finger to are of the right-wing big-C variety.

As someone who was born and raised in Hong Kong and has borne witness to its steady degeneration into just another "Chinese" city over the years, I'd like to personally thank you and other leftists and self-identified liberals on this site and elsewhere who have spoken out in support of the people of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Xinjiang and liberal pro-democracy activists in China itself. I really appreciate that. We need all the support we can get to resist Chinese Communist influence in this part of the world, however small.

Of course I stand with the pro-democracy movement in HK, mainland China, Xinjiang, and Tibet. There is absolutely nothing that is even remotely redeemable about the regime that has all but abandoned any pretense of socialism just to grab as much power and cash as possible. I hope that Taiwan's successful resistance against Beijing's subversion will inspire you all to keep pressing on in Hong Kong and elsewhere, even if you are at your darkest hour, because this is a battle for the very heart and soul of your people, and a turning point is coming in this year's elections to the LegCo. Nolite te bastardes carborundorum! Stay determined!

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

That is the irony. The most totalitarian regimes are not actually the most clean and orderly.
And Xi’s Dickensian dystopia as you so eloquently put it certainly does not fit the bill.

I have never been to the mainland PRC (and never will go there) but my family who have been say the same thing. That Japan for example is far more clean and ordered. But Japan is a parliamentary democracy as well.

Japan has been by far the most advanced and orderly country I've ever had the fortune of visiting, TWICE, and I have to say I'm impressed. If Japan's population was the same as China's, its GDP would be 3 1/2 times larger than China's. Japan, Taiwan and South Korea are simply culturally, politically and economically superior to China in every way, shape and form. And way more clean and orderly too. Even Hong Kong and Singapore are not as repressive as China and they're doing pretty well. But expect pro-CCP shills to only ever compare China to India or Malaysia.

Eh, to be fair, even Malaysia is a better place to live in, and that is a country which had only recently experienced a peaceful transition of power to the opposition for the first time in its history. At least its not an open air prison and a Dickensian dystopia like the PRC though.

[Catburg]

Congratulations to Tsai Ing-wen on her landslide victory. China failed to successfully rig the 2020 election through their fake news and CCP-affiliated network of Triads. In fact, Tsai Ing-wen actually won more votes than any other presidential candidate since democratization and the end of martial law. The Taiwanese people can now lead by example and show the Chinese people that democracy can work in China too. We also have the people of Hong Kong to show them that "One Country, Two Systems" doesn't fucking work.



I consider the CCP to be a far-right neo-Nazi fascist regime that has abandoned its original far-left communist roots, so it makes sense for (most) leftists to unite with rightist conservatives to oppose the current regime. For all of my criticisms of left-wing politics in recent years and for all of our oftentimes heated disagreements, this is one thing I must give leftists credit for. I won't stop criticizing the Left in America and Europe (through my main nation New Bremerton), but it's also a fact that the Taiwanese pro-independence DPP that Tsai is a part of is considered liberal and left-wing in contrast to the traditionally right-wing conservative (and formerly far-right authoritarian fascist) KMT that desires unification with the far-right fascist CCP. While I have my criticisms of small-c communism and Marxism as an ideology, the Commies I'm giving the finger to are of the right-wing big-C variety.

As someone who was born and raised in Hong Kong and has borne witness to its steady degeneration into just another "Chinese" city over the years, I'd like to personally thank you and other leftists and self-identified liberals on this site and elsewhere who have spoken out in support of the people of Hong Kong, Taiwan, Xinjiang and liberal pro-democracy activists in China itself. I really appreciate that. We need all the support we can get to resist Chinese Communist influence in this part of the world, however small.

Of course I stand with the pro-democracy movement in HK, mainland China, Xinjiang, and Tibet. There is absolutely nothing that is even remotely redeemable about the regime that has all but abandoned any pretense of socialism just to grab as much power and cash as possible. I hope that Taiwan's successful resistance against Beijing's subversion will inspire you all to keep pressing on in Hong Kong and elsewhere, even if you are at your darkest hour, because this is a battle for the very heart and soul of your people, and a turning point is coming in this year's elections to the LegCo. Nolite te bastardes carborundorum! Stay determined!

Yep. No matter how people disagree on other topics we have to agree that Sinostatism sucks.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

Of course I stand with the pro-democracy movement in HK, mainland China, Xinjiang, and Tibet. There is absolutely nothing that is even remotely redeemable about the regime that has all but abandoned any pretense of socialism just to grab as much power and cash as possible. I hope that Taiwan's successful resistance against Beijing's subversion will inspire you all to keep pressing on in Hong Kong and elsewhere, even if you are at your darkest hour, because this is a battle for the very heart and soul of your people, and a turning point is coming in this year's elections to the LegCo. Nolite te bastardes carborundorum! Stay determined!

Yep. No matter how people disagree on other topics we have to agree that Sinostatism sucks.

Agreed. But totalitarianism is not exclusive to China though. Let's call a spade a spade.

[Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia]

DPP maintained a majority in the Legislature as well.

Best of all is questions in China, who are generally told the people of Taiwan love China and yearn for reunification. Comments, soon blocked, expressed surprise at the results and question why they're always led to expect the pro-Beijing camp to win and then see overwhelming votes against.

The more people question the better.

I honestly didn't expect the DPP to maintain a decent majority in the Legislative Yuan, especially since they have recently suffered a big loss in the local elections in November 2018, but that was before the HK protests even kicked off. Looks like I got a pleasant surprise this election.

[Shrillland]

DPP maintained a majority in the Legislature as well.

Best of all is questions in China, who are generally told the people of Taiwan love China and yearn for reunification. Comments, soon blocked, expressed surprise at the results and question why they're always led to expect the pro-Beijing camp to win and then see overwhelming votes against.

The more people question the better.

I honestly didn't expect the DPP to maintain a decent majority in the Legislative Yuan, especially since they have recently suffered a big loss in the local elections in November 2018, but that was before the HK protests even kicked off. Looks like I got a pleasant surprise this election.

That was damn near the only thing that saved Tsai and the DPP. Before then, it was a domestic-based election, and her pension reforms weren't all that popular. Lai ran against her in the primary, even.

[Genivaria]

Of course I stand with the pro-democracy movement in HK, mainland China, Xinjiang, and Tibet. There is absolutely nothing that is even remotely redeemable about the regime that has all but abandoned any pretense of socialism just to grab as much power and cash as possible. I hope that Taiwan's successful resistance against Beijing's subversion will inspire you all to keep pressing on in Hong Kong and elsewhere, even if you are at your darkest hour, because this is a battle for the very heart and soul of your people, and a turning point is coming in this year's elections to the LegCo. Nolite te bastardes carborundorum! Stay determined!

Yep. No matter how people disagree on other topics we have to agree that Sinostatism sucks.

Still not a thing.

[Kowani]

Looks like China just got a huge Fuck Off.

In Blow to Beijing, Taiwan Re-elects Tsai Ing-wen as President

Cue diatribes from CCP sympathizers.

Guess not everyone wants to live unde Xi’s ever expanding heel.

[Gormwood]

China says will not change position on Taiwan after landslide election

Derrrp.

[Outer Sparta]

Looks like China just got a huge Fuck Off.

In Blow to Beijing, Taiwan Re-elects Tsai Ing-wen as President

Cue diatribes from CCP sympathizers.

You’re late to the party, Gauth. IM’s already here praising authority and order and China over messy democracy and Taiwan apparently.

And to think a few decades ago, Taiwan was still authoritarian but went on the path of democratizing following Japan and South Korea.

[Rethania]

How come KMT is pro-Beijing? I thought they opposed the CCP (considering they fought a civil war with them)?

[Outer Sparta]

How come KMT is pro-Beijing? I thought they opposed the CCP (considering they fought a civil war with them)?

The nationalists of today are different from the nationalists of the past. Besides, the DPP is much more indy-oriented and pro-Western.

[Bombadil]

How come KMT is pro-Beijing? I thought they opposed the CCP (considering they fought a civil war with them)?

All things are possible when there's money to be made.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

ew, the Evangelion cosplayer won her seat. Standing against the NPP (the party that held the seat) candidate and almost losing to the KMT one.

Hope she loses next time, then.

[Pilipinas and Malaya]

ew, the Evangelion cosplayer won her seat. Standing against the NPP (the party that held the seat) candidate and almost losing to the KMT one.

Hope she loses next time, then.

NPP? Did you mean DPP?