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Postby Aeritai » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:52 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Strangely enough, i was wondering, has anyone heard from the Christian Scientists lately?


Not that I know of.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 15, 2020 3:54 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Strangely enough, i was wondering, has anyone heard from the Christian Scientists lately?

No. But I did go past the local Friends meeting house on Friday. They always have interesting topical stuff in the window; specifically on this occasion they had stuff about sustainability. I was expecting some things about Coronavirus, but maybe next time.
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Postby The New California Republic » Sun Mar 15, 2020 4:45 pm

A North Lanarkshire church has closed after one of its parishioners tested positive for coronavirus.

The young member of the congregation at St Augustine's in Coatbridge had attended a large mass there in recent days.

Rev Fr Michael Kane has stopped all services at the church until further notice to protect the health of parishioners.

He said the building would also undergo a "deep antibacterial clean".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... t-51899752

Coronavirus isn't bacteria... :eyebrow:
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sun Mar 15, 2020 10:54 pm

Lost Memories wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I wasn't at all saying it was a common thing, as I know it isn't; it was directed at what appears to be IJ's understanding of it.

I see, then we were all assuming someone is believing christians can cast esuna.

Who's that one?
(i mean, maybe Imperial Joseon wasn't meaning that? It's up to him anyway to clarify)


Oh, I never said the virus can be "prayed away". I just said I'll pray to God to protect her from danger, although it's up to her to take preventative measures herself. This is my sincere way of having sympathy towards her, and someone, who somehow is new to this thread and comes to it, after looking at the posts I made in which threads, manipulates this sincerity and tries to make an attack for the sheer objective of making an argument.
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Postby Europa Undivided » Sun Mar 15, 2020 11:54 pm

Tarsonis wrote:Strangely enough, i was wondering, has anyone heard from the Christian Scientists lately?

Who said they were relevant?
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 1:02 am

Europa Undivided wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Strangely enough, i was wondering, has anyone heard from the Christian Scientists lately?

Who said they were relevant?


Yeah, I doubt they're quite relevant. I agree with you there.
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Postby The Archregimancy » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:21 am

Europa Undivided wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Strangely enough, i was wondering, has anyone heard from the Christian Scientists lately?

Who said they were relevant?


If I'm reading between the lines correctly, Tarsonis may have been making a pointed reference to the Christian Scientist belief that medicine is unnecessary, that medical treatment should in fact be actively avoided, and that all physical ailments can be healed by Christian Scientist prayer.

Which, in the present epidemiological climate, is entirely relevant.

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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:32 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Lost Memories wrote:I see, then we were all assuming someone is believing christians can cast esuna.

Who's that one?
(i mean, maybe Imperial Joseon wasn't meaning that? It's up to him anyway to clarify)


Oh, I never said the virus can be "prayed away". I just said I'll pray to God to protect her from danger, although it's up to her to take preventative measures herself. This is my sincere way of having sympathy towards her, and someone, who somehow is new to this thread and comes to it, after looking at the posts I made in which threads, manipulates this sincerity and tries to make an attack for the sheer objective of making an argument.

I'm neither new to the thread nor am I stalking you, and nor am I manipulating anything. Some paranoia here methinks...
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:40 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Oh, I never said the virus can be "prayed away". I just said I'll pray to God to protect her from danger, although it's up to her to take preventative measures herself. This is my sincere way of having sympathy towards her, and someone, who somehow is new to this thread and comes to it, after looking at the posts I made in which threads, manipulates this sincerity and tries to make an attack for the sheer objective of making an argument.

I'm neither new to the thread nor am I stalking you, and nor am I manipulating anything. Some paranoia here methinks...


I said I'd be praying for someone, wishing her well, and you used that post to distort my sincerity to say that I think praying only cures coronavirus entirely. It's obvious, and let me tell you this:

Shoo, because you're responding to me on every freakin' post I make on every thread in which I participate looking for arguments. Hey, I'm not the one being obsessed; it's you, so get a grip. Have some consideration for those afflicted by the virus, if you have time to try and stir up arguments. Also, the next time you're looking to bash me, take it to telegram. If you have participated in the thread, why don't you post something relevant to Christianity for once?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:46 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:I said I'd be praying for someone, wishing her well, and you used that post to distort my sincerity to say that I think praying only cures coronavirus entirely. It's obvious, and let me tell you this:

Shoo, because you're responding to me on every freakin' post I make on every thread in which I participate looking for arguments.

I'm just not, hence why I remarked that there is some paranoia here.

Imperial Joseon wrote:Have some consideration for those afflicted by the virus, if you have time to try and stir up arguments.

I have, but you just haven't noticed.

Imperial Joseon wrote:If you have participated in the thread, why don't you post something relevant to Christianity for once?

I do actually, if you cared to check. :roll:
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:50 am

The New California Republic wrote:I'm just not, hence why I remarked that there is some paranoia here.


Just because you said you didn't doesn't mean you didn't. Come on, you talk about ad hominem and strawman, yet you fail to justify yourself. This is comical, California Republic.

I have, but you just haven't noticed.


Sure, sure.

I do actually, if you cared to check. :roll:


:roll: Doesn't seem like it, but, even if you have, I don't have time to go through archives, dear. Stop trying to stir up beef with me, and go your own way.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 2:55 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I'm just not, hence why I remarked that there is some paranoia here.


Just because you said you didn't doesn't mean you didn't. Come on, you talk about ad hominem and strawman, yet you fail to justify yourself. This is comical, California Republic.

It's pretty clear to both you and me that I don't respond to everything you post across the forums.

Imperial Joseon wrote: :roll: Doesn't seem like it, but, even if you have, I don't have time to go through archives, dear. Stop trying to stir up beef with me, and go your own way.

"It seems you don't, but I'm not going to check that you don't."

O....K....
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:00 am

The New California Republic wrote:It's pretty clear to both you and me that I don't respond to everything you post across the forums.


Why don't you make it clear, then, and quit it, because you are? Now, take this to telegram, because you're posting something totally irrelevant to this thread, as you always do.

Imperial Joseon wrote:
O....K....


Kappa. Your post was similar to that. Once again, why don't we stick to the topic, instead of you going tangent and attempting to respond to every post I make? You know better.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:04 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:you're posting something totally irrelevant to this thread, as you always do.

I assume you didn't see the monastery article I recently posted then. You should check it out, it was good.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:06 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:you're posting something totally irrelevant to this thread, as you always do.

I assume you didn't see the monastery article I recently posted then. You should check it out, it was good.


What was the monastery article about? Whether it's good or not is not entirely based on your subjective response, though.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:09 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:I assume you didn't see the monastery article I recently posted then. You should check it out, it was good.


What was the monastery article about? Whether it's good or not is not entirely based on your subjective response, though.

You could have just asked me what it was about instead of including that bit at the end.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:10 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
What was the monastery article about? Whether it's good or not is not entirely based on your subjective response, though.

You could have just asked me what it was about instead of including that bit at the end.


You could have just post something entirely relevant to this thread without having to respond to me in the first place.
Now, I want to possibly have a healthy debate about Christianity, since you mentioned the part about your "monastery article". What is it about?
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:14 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:You could have just asked me what it was about instead of including that bit at the end.


You could have just post something entirely relevant to this thread without having to respond to me in the first place.
Now, I want to possibly have a healthy debate about Christianity, since you mentioned the part about your "monastery article". What is it about?

Uh huh. It's about a monastery in Scotland. It's two pages back.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Optimatibus » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:15 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:You could have just post something entirely relevant to this thread without having to respond to me in the first place.
Now, I want to possibly have a healthy debate about Christianity, since you mentioned the part about your "monastery article". What is it about?

Probably something about grey-zone operations, hybrid warfare, or measures short of war. Intended to raise the cost of hostile action in the adversary’s strategic calculations, so they think twice about it next time.

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:23 am

Optimatibus wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:You could have just post something entirely relevant to this thread without having to respond to me in the first place.
Now, I want to possibly have a healthy debate about Christianity, since you mentioned the part about your "monastery article". What is it about?

Probably something about grey-zone operations, hybrid warfare, or measures short of war. Intended to raise the cost of hostile action in the adversary’s strategic calculations, so they think twice about it next time.


It's a small, sound, Christian community that values a frgual lifestyle dedicated to God. I'm not a Catholic nor a derivative of it myself, but I think the situation, as a whole, is a valuable Christian tradition and will be recorded in the annals of Christianity for some time. Nothing about warfare. I don't think they've participated in the Crusades, since that was quite a long time ago.
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Postby The New California Republic » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:31 am

Optimatibus wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:You could have just post something entirely relevant to this thread without having to respond to me in the first place.
Now, I want to possibly have a healthy debate about Christianity, since you mentioned the part about your "monastery article". What is it about?

Probably something about grey-zone operations, hybrid warfare, or measures short of war. Intended to raise the cost of hostile action in the adversary’s strategic calculations, so they think twice about it next time.

It really isn't.
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White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Optimatibus » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:40 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:It's a small, sound, Christian community that values a frgual lifestyle dedicated to God. I'm not a Catholic nor a derivative of it myself, but I think the situation, as a whole, is a valuable Christian tradition and will be recorded in the annals of Christianity for some time. Nothing about warfare. I don't think they've participated in the Crusades, since that was quite a long time ago.

Assuredly, you are quite correct. I have not looked at the article in question, nor was I referring to it. Blabbering about conflict must have seemed confusing in the context of this fabled article. Rest easy in the knowledge that I have studied monasticism, and, having read the piece about the Orkney monks, felt it intriguingly similar to historical notions of monasticism, for obvious reasons.

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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 3:50 am

Optimatibus wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:It's a small, sound, Christian community that values a frgual lifestyle dedicated to God. I'm not a Catholic nor a derivative of it myself, but I think the situation, as a whole, is a valuable Christian tradition and will be recorded in the annals of Christianity for some time. Nothing about warfare. I don't think they've participated in the Crusades, since that was quite a long time ago.

Assuredly, you are quite correct. I have not looked at the article in question, nor was I referring to it. Blabbering about conflict must have seemed confusing in the context of this fabled article. Rest easy in the knowledge that I have studied monasticism, and, having read the piece about the Orkney monks, felt it intriguingly similar to historical notions of monasticism, for obvious reasons.


Ah, okay. Well noted. I thought you were referring to the article.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Mon Mar 16, 2020 4:47 am

Tarsonis wrote:Girls girls girls, you're both pretty. Can we move on now?


I'm a guy, and, apparently, we have moved on. You're too late to the party, Tarsonis.
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