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The Blaatschapen wrote:

Turelisa- wrote:The Bible tells us to 'put away evil from among you' by inflicting the death penalty upon people who commit the most heinous crimes - murder, adultery, incest, paedophilia, criminal insanity and certain unnatural sexual acts.
People who commit these crimes are depraved, and can't be saved. They haven't the Holy Spirit working in them. They are the worst of reprobates.They're outside of God's grace, and must be killed judicially to spare the rest of society their corrupting influence. An evil person is never happy, and death is a release from the suffering which they inflict upon themselves. What is kinder than that? If you spare the reprobate criminal's life, and give him his freedom, you are, in effect, protracting his suffering and eventual self-destruction and guaranteeing the destruction of future victims of his depravity.
If they were in God's grace, they would either be intimidated by the rule of law sufficiently to refrain from temptation to do these unholy acts or, having the Holy Spirit working in them, would be regenerated from that natural depravity whence springs all Evil.

What are these unnatural sexual acts?

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
Those terms aren't mutually exclusive.

Genius has it listed as power pop and rock. The world is weird and confusing.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

Turelisa- wrote:The Bible tells us to 'put away evil from among you' by inflicting the death penalty upon people who commit the most heinous crimes - murder, adultery, incest, paedophilia, criminal insanity and certain unnatural sexual acts.
People who commit these crimes are depraved, and can't be saved. They haven't the Holy Spirit working in them. They are the worst of reprobates.They're outside of God's grace, and must be killed judicially to spare the rest of society their corrupting influence. An evil person is never happy, and death is a release from the suffering which they inflict upon themselves. What is kinder than that? If you spare the reprobate criminal's life, and give him his freedom, you are, in effect, protracting his suffering and eventual self-destruction and guaranteeing the destruction of future victims of his depravity.
If they were in God's grace, they would either be intimidated by the rule of law sufficiently to refrain from temptation to do these unholy acts or, having the Holy Spirit working in them, would be regenerated from that natural depravity whence springs all Evil.

What are these unnatural sexual acts?

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Genius has it listed as power pop and rock. The world is weird and confusing.

Well that's accurate, it was written by Leonard Cohen, and Rufus Wainwright did a cover of it for Shrek which revived it into the modern zeitgeist and its been covered to death by every singer with dream.


I'd agree that it's not a Christian song in the same vein, as say "Amazing Grace." It's not a hymn, it's a song about heart break. However it uses biblical figures in a way that is faithful to their stories and the lessons there in, so it is easily digestible into the Christian ethos in the same way a hymn is, making it a Christian song, as well as a pop song /folk song.

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
Well that's accurate, it was written by Leonard Cohen, and Rufus Wainwright did a cover of it for Shrek which revived it into the modern zeitgeist and its been covered to death by every singer with dream.


I'd agree that it's not a Christian song in the same vein, as say "Amazing Grace." It's not a hymn, it's a song about heart break. However it uses biblical figures in a way that is faithful to their stories and the lessons there in, so it is easily digestible into the Christian ethos in the same way a hymn is, making it a Christian song, as well as a pop song /folk song.

Thanks for the info. So, when the song talks about being tied to the kitchen chair and having his hair cut, Cohen's talking about Solomon and that beautiful woman, correct?

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Thanks for the info. So, when the song talks about being tied to the kitchen chair and having his hair cut, Cohen's talking about Solomon and that beautiful woman, correct?

I think that's more a reference to Samson and Delilah

Turelisa- wrote:The Bible tells us to 'put away evil from among you' by inflicting the death penalty upon people who commit the most heinous crimes - murder, adultery, incest, paedophilia, criminal insanity and certain unnatural sexual acts.
People who commit these crimes are depraved, and can't be saved. They haven't the Holy Spirit working in them. They are the worst of reprobates.They're outside of God's grace, and must be killed judicially to spare the rest of society their corrupting influence. An evil person is never happy, and death is a release from the suffering which they inflict upon themselves. What is kinder than that? If you spare the reprobate criminal's life, and give him his freedom, you are, in effect, protracting his suffering and eventual self-destruction and guaranteeing the destruction of future victims of his depravity.
If they were in God's grace, they would either be intimidated by the rule of law sufficiently to refrain from temptation to do these unholy acts or, having the Holy Spirit working in them, would be regenerated from that natural depravity whence springs all Evil.

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
I think that's more a reference to Samson and Delilah

Dang that's what I meant. I knew the man started with an S.

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Dang that's what I meant. I knew the man started with an S.

eh you weren't far off. Solomon did have that issue with the Queen of Sheeba

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Dang that's what I meant. I knew the man started with an S.

eh you weren't far off. Solomon did have that issue with the Queen of Sheeba

Tarsonis wrote:

The Blaatschapen wrote:
What are these unnatural sexual acts?

He's talking about the LGBs

Old Tyrannia wrote:The Jeff Buckley version of "Hallelujah" is the best version. Cohen's original isn't bad either though.

The version used in the actual film Shrek is actually John Cale's cover, although it's Rufus Wainwright's version that's on the official soundtrack album.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
He's talking about the LGBs

For turelisa:
Given that there is gay marriage, should then gay adulterers be getting the death penalty twice?

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
eh you weren't far off. Solomon did have that issue with the Queen of Sheeba

And she was a beautiful woman, correct?

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Old Tyrannia wrote:The Jeff Buckley version of "Hallelujah" is the best version. Cohen's original isn't bad either though.

The version used in the actual film Shrek is actually John Cale's cover, although it's Rufus Wainwright's version that's on the official soundtrack album.

Personally, the best version is Pentatonix's version.

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
And she was a beautiful woman, correct?

indeed. Women was sort of Solomon's problem. A lot of Biblical figures had the same issue.

Old Tyrannia wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Personally, the best version is Pentatonix's version.

Now there's an opinion worth time in purgatory.

Old Tyrannia wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Personally, the best version is Pentatonix's version.

Now there's an opinion worth time in purgatory.

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
indeed. Women was sort of Solomon's problem. A lot of Biblical figures had the same issue.

Who else except Solomon and Samson? I can't remember any and if I try to, I'll get it wrong.

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Who else except Solomon and Samson? I can't remember any and if I try to, I'll get it wrong.

David and Bathseeba,
Solomon and His Wives,
Ahab and Jezebel
Samson and Delilah
and arguably: Adam and Eve. for Eve was deceived first, then Adam.


to name a few

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Old Tyrannia wrote:The Jeff Buckley version of "Hallelujah" is the best version. Cohen's original isn't bad either though.

The version used in the actual film Shrek is actually John Cale's cover, although it's Rufus Wainwright's version that's on the official soundtrack album.

Personally, the best version is Pentatonix's version.

United Hemand Insia wrote:

Tarsonis wrote:
David and Bathseeba,
Solomon and His Wives,
Ahab and Jezebel
Samson and Delilah
and arguably: Adam and Eve. for Eve was deceived first, then Adam.


to name a few

Wow, you study scripture way more than I do lol.

Tarsonis wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Wow, you study scripture way more than I do lol.

I have a masters degree in it.

The Blaatschapen wrote:

United Hemand Insia wrote:
Personally, the best version is Pentatonix's version.

I'll go for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SbmjU9kIh8E

If there is a hell, I just bought myself a first class ticket