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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
263
38%
Eastern Orthodox
47
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
35
5%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
71
10%
Methodist
16
2%
Baptist
66
9%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
62
9%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
32
5%
Other Christian
97
14%
 
Total votes : 695

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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue May 11, 2021 3:55 pm

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In the United States, one of the most vaccine hesitant groups is white evangelical Christians.


American Evangelicalism is the worst heresy since Iconoclasm.


And they would say that Roman and Orthodox Churches are pagan and idol worshipers. :p
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue May 11, 2021 3:55 pm

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I try not to take things too seriously unless they involve harm to people, animals, or the environment.

But given that I've previously stated my disapproval of schisms (especially the Protestant Reformation) I think it's rather clear where I stand on this. Naturally I'm more sympathetic to the German priests here, but that doesn't mean I agree with their move to outright defy the Vatican. I shouldn't need to say this, really. Disunity harms the church. That said, I don't expect this to turn into 95 Theses 2.0


Then you really need to learn to read the room. We just got over yet another interdenominational spat. Not a good time to start making jokes about a troublesome situation.


I make jokes to lighten the mood when it gets dark. We just learned about the murder of 78 priests on a sacred holiday in Ethiopia. I don't like thinking about stuff like that; it's fucking depressing.

Please lay off.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 11, 2021 4:05 pm

Lady Victory wrote:
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Then you really need to learn to read the room. We just got over yet another interdenominational spat. Not a good time to start making jokes about a troublesome situation.


I make jokes to lighten the mood when it gets dark. We just learned about the murder of 78 priests on a sacred holiday in Ethiopia. I don't like thinking about stuff like that; it's fucking depressing.

Please lay off.


No, I'm not going to lay off. You're making light of a situation that has very troubling ramifications in the Church right now, right after we had yet another fight over this exact type of shit. You're not lightening the mood, you're spitting in Catholics' face. And you're so fucking self absorbed you can't even see how you're pissing in people's cheerios. And you want to wine about the toxic element in the thread? Look in a mirror, cause you're fucking bringing it it. For fuck sake, THINK.
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Postby Odreria » Tue May 11, 2021 4:09 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
American Evangelicalism is the worst heresy since Iconoclasm.


And they would say that Roman and Orthodox Churches are pagan and idol worshipers. :p

Believe it or not people are aware that other people disagree with them. You do not need to respond to every single human's opinion to tell them that it isn't universally held.
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Postby North Washington Republic » Tue May 11, 2021 4:37 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
I make jokes to lighten the mood when it gets dark. We just learned about the murder of 78 priests on a sacred holiday in Ethiopia. I don't like thinking about stuff like that; it's fucking depressing.

Please lay off.


No, I'm not going to lay off. You're making light of a situation that has very troubling ramifications in the Church right now, right after we had yet another fight over this exact type of shit. You're not lightening the mood, you're spitting in Catholics' face. And you're so fucking self absorbed you can't even see how you're pissing in people's cheerios. And you want to wine about the toxic element in the thread? Look in a mirror, cause you're fucking bringing it it. For fuck sake, THINK.



Claim down, dude. Lady Victory has no impact on the situation of the Catholic Church in Germany. If you want to get mad, get mad at the rebellious priests.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 11, 2021 4:53 pm

North Washington Republic wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
No, I'm not going to lay off. You're making light of a situation that has very troubling ramifications in the Church right now, right after we had yet another fight over this exact type of shit. You're not lightening the mood, you're spitting in Catholics' face. And you're so fucking self absorbed you can't even see how you're pissing in people's cheerios. And you want to wine about the toxic element in the thread? Look in a mirror, cause you're fucking bringing it it. For fuck sake, THINK.



Claim down, dude. Lady Victory has no impact on the situation of the Catholic Church in Germany. If you want to get mad, get mad at the rebellious priests.


How about you worry about things that concern you.
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Postby Nakena » Tue May 11, 2021 4:54 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:

Claim down, dude. Lady Victory has no impact on the situation of the Catholic Church in Germany. If you want to get mad, get mad at the rebellious priests.


How about you worry about things that concern you.


I think he's trying to calm you down and has no bad intention.
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Postby Tarsonis » Tue May 11, 2021 5:00 pm

Nakena wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
How about you worry about things that concern you.


I think he's trying to calm you down and has no bad intention.


That would be a first for him.

it's not even about the situation, it's about LV making light of it. All she had to do was say sorry, we've all made jokes at the wrong time, it happens. Instead, when it is pointed out to her she's saying offensive things, she instead decides to decry how others are wrong for being offended at her offensive actions..
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Postby Lady Victory » Tue May 11, 2021 5:41 pm

No, Arch was right. This thread is toxic.
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue May 11, 2021 5:49 pm

Man this thread is not having a good day is it...? Its heartbreaking that those priest were killed and its heartbreaking that the church is facing a split.

We need to be united as one and not worry about fighting each other all the time.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 11, 2021 5:52 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
Lady Victory wrote:
I make jokes to lighten the mood when it gets dark. We just learned about the murder of 78 priests on a sacred holiday in Ethiopia. I don't like thinking about stuff like that; it's fucking depressing.

Please lay off.


No, I'm not going to lay off. You're making light of a situation that has very troubling ramifications in the Church right now, right after we had yet another fight over this exact type of shit. You're not lightening the mood, you're spitting in Catholics' face. And you're so fucking self absorbed you can't even see how you're pissing in people's cheerios. And you want to wine about the toxic element in the thread? Look in a mirror, cause you're fucking bringing it it. For fuck sake, THINK.

We’ve had other Catholics (Dylar in particular) already comment that yes, this is a troublesome situation. Maybe LV’s joke had bad timing (to be honest it wasn’t WRONG, the German priests are probably going to get excommunicated), but after every comment that’s been made today about toxicity and then trying to change the subject toward some sort of action, it comes back to this asinine finger-pointing. If you don’t want to talk to LV, then block them. We know that this is a serious matter, and we must pray. Not chase away people who are genuinely trying to come into the Faith.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 11, 2021 5:53 pm

Just-An-Illusion wrote:Man this thread is not having a good day is it...? Its heartbreaking that those priest were killed and its heartbreaking that the church is facing a split.

We need to be united as one and not worry about fighting each other all the time.

I just realized you’re Aeritai under a new name. And yes, this last sentence is yes.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 11, 2021 5:54 pm

Tarsonis wrote:
North Washington Republic wrote:

Claim down, dude. Lady Victory has no impact on the situation of the Catholic Church in Germany. If you want to get mad, get mad at the rebellious priests.


How about you worry about things that concern you.

It concerns him because he’s a member of this thread who has been trying to participate.
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Postby Loeje » Tue May 11, 2021 5:56 pm

It looks like I made a mistake posting about the German priests here. I'm sorry.
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Postby Luminesa » Tue May 11, 2021 5:57 pm

Loeje wrote:It looks like I made a mistake posting about the German priests here. I'm sorry.

You didn’t make a mistake. You are a participant of this thread. As long as it pertains to Christianity you’re fine.
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Postby Kowani » Tue May 11, 2021 5:58 pm

Loeje wrote:It looks like I made a mistake posting about the German priests here. I'm sorry.

i don't believe so, no
it was pertinent information, and you couldn't predict that the discussion would take the turn it would
don't worry about it
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue May 11, 2021 6:00 pm

Luminesa wrote:
Just-An-Illusion wrote:Man this thread is not having a good day is it...? Its heartbreaking that those priest were killed and its heartbreaking that the church is facing a split.

We need to be united as one and not worry about fighting each other all the time.

I just realized you’re Aeritai under a new name. And yes, this last sentence is yes.


Oh yeah it is me Aeritai! I was going to post under this account in this thread, but I had nothing interesting to say up until this point.

But good to see you again Lumi
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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 11, 2021 6:45 pm

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Sundiata wrote:Similar to the Catholic teaching. Although, from what I understand, a few like Fr. James Martin disagree with the Vatican on church teaching/catechism.

On that subject: Germans defy Vatican, bless gay unions.

This is not good because they'll probably be excommunicated, rightly.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue May 11, 2021 7:15 pm

Loeje wrote:It looks like I made a mistake posting about the German priests here. I'm sorry.

You didn't make a mistake. Please do not assume that the Toxic Four AKA Shitflinging Squad are representative of the CDT and the people that would like to actually contribute if it wasn't for their continued insistence on chasing people away.
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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 11, 2021 7:24 pm

Just-An-Illusion wrote:Man this thread is not having a good day is it...? Its heartbreaking that those priest were killed and its heartbreaking that the church is facing a split.

We need to be united as one and not worry about fighting each other all the time.

Yes. Glory be to the Father, and to the Son, and to the Holy Spirit. As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be, world without end. Amen.
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Postby Salus Maior » Tue May 11, 2021 7:27 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Loeje wrote:It looks like I made a mistake posting about the German priests here. I'm sorry.

You didn't make a mistake. Please do not assume that the Toxic Four AKA Shitflinging Squad are representative of the CDT and the people that would like to actually contribute if it wasn't for their continued insistence on chasing people away.


I’m curious, who is actually the ‘toxic four’? I assume I’m one of them.
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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 11, 2021 7:30 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:You didn't make a mistake. Please do not assume that the Toxic Four AKA Shitflinging Squad are representative of the CDT and the people that would like to actually contribute if it wasn't for their continued insistence on chasing people away.


I’m curious, who is actually the ‘toxic four’? I assume I’m one of them.

Edit: doubted it, was mistaken.
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Postby Immortan Khan » Tue May 11, 2021 7:31 pm

Salus Maior wrote:
Immortan Khan wrote:You didn't make a mistake. Please do not assume that the Toxic Four AKA Shitflinging Squad are representative of the CDT and the people that would like to actually contribute if it wasn't for their continued insistence on chasing people away.


I’m curious, who is actually the ‘toxic four’? I assume I’m one of them.

Yes you are. So is Tars. So is OT. So is LV. All four of you are constantly starting shit in this thread, all four of you have egos way too fucking big, and all four of you contribute to the continued demise of this thread.
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Postby Sundiata » Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 pm

Immortan Khan wrote:
Salus Maior wrote:
I’m curious, who is actually the ‘toxic four’? I assume I’m one of them.

Yes you are. So is Tars. So is OT. So is LV. All four of you are constantly starting shit in this thread, all four of you have egos way too fucking big, and all four of you contribute to the continued demise of this thread.

Is there anything I can do or say to help the situation? If not, I understand. Peace be with you.
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Postby Just-An-Illusion » Tue May 11, 2021 7:34 pm

How about we calm down.... Before we start another heated argument again.
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