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What is your denomination?

Roman Catholic
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38%
Eastern Orthodox
47
7%
Non-Chalcedonian (Oriental Orthodox, Church of the East, etc.)
6
1%
Anglican/Episcopalian
35
5%
Lutheran or Reformed (including Calvinist, Presbyterian, etc.)
71
10%
Methodist
16
2%
Baptist
66
9%
Other Evangelical Protestant (Pentecostal, Charismatic, etc.)
62
9%
Restorationist (LDS Movement, Jehovah's Witness, etc.)
32
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Other Christian
97
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Total votes : 695

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Postby Sundiata » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:59 am

God put a smile on your face. :)

I think that one of the most important answers that we can give to people is that God loves them and loves them deeply regardless of their faults. It's an easy thing for people to identify their imperfections but it's all too common for us to dwell rather than seek to be more perfect.

Ultimately, it's incumbent upon us as Christians to show others that the perfection that people seek naturally isn't solely of this world but in perfect communion with God.
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Postby Dylar » Wed Mar 18, 2020 6:59 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Alright, Gim, I give up. If you can't do anything else but say "no you" I'm not gonna waste my time.


Tarsonis Survivors, you don't really back up your words, just trying ti stir up arguments, right? I believed in you, but you failed me. If you can't back up your posts, don't bother replying to me. Got it? ;)

Ffs he just wants an explanation to the claim which you made. The fact that you want him to provide an explanation for his question is just mind-boggling.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:01 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
The Archregimancy wrote:The Lorrrrrd's word is nae good news, laddie; do you nae ken Knox?


Edit:
If Ken were to know Barbie in the Biblical sense in Scotland, would that mean that Ken kens Barbie?


Sounds like something related to druidism, considering Barbie is a doll, but I can't get too ahead of myself. :lol:

N...no...It really isn't...
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:01 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Alright, Gim, I give up. If you can't do anything else but say "no you" I'm not gonna waste my time.


Tarsonis Survivors, you don't really back up your words, just trying ti stir up arguments, right? I believed in you, but you failed me. If you can't back up your posts, don't bother replying to me. Got it? ;)


What's he supposed to back up? All he's doing is asking you a question.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:02 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:Alright, Gim, I give up. If you can't do anything else but say "no you" I'm not gonna waste my time.


Tarsonis Survivors, you don't really back up your words, just trying ti stir up arguments, right? I believed in you, but you failed me. If you can't back up your posts, don't bother replying to me. Got it? ;)

At least you've stopped pretending you aren't Gim. That's progress for you. Now if you can stop the bad faith posting, you might be able to actually contribute to the thread.
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Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:03 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis Survivors, you don't really back up your words, just trying ti stir up arguments, right? I believed in you, but you failed me. If you can't back up your posts, don't bother replying to me. Got it? ;)


What's he supposed to back up? All he's doing is asking you a question.


He needs to back up why he said this:

viewtopic.php?p=36836358#p36836358
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:03 am

Joseon, just answer the question instead of this constant evading.
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The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
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Hanafuridake
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Postby Hanafuridake » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:03 am

Dogmeat wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:Define "correct Bible" please.

Probably some extremely questionable Evangelical Hangul translation.


Hangul is a pathway to many translations that many consider to be... unnatural.
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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:05 am

Hanafuridake wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:Probably some extremely questionable Evangelical Hangul translation.


Hangul is a pathway to many translations that many consider to be... unnatural.


Well, translations, in general, are, including Japanese, but you're going off on a tangent. :)
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:06 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Hanafuridake wrote:
What's he supposed to back up? All he's doing is asking you a question.


He needs to back up why he said this:

viewtopic.php?p=36836358#p36836358


I did. I explained that in that statement asking you to explain what you meant. Something you refused to do.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:09 am

Tarsonis wrote:
I did. I explained that in that statement asking you to explain what you meant. Something you refused to do.


So, let me get on your cryptic way of explaining: You don't support the fact that homosexuality is not a sin? Do you have biblical reference? Do you have reference from Christian scholars or those of your "denomination"?
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:09 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
He needs to back up why he said this:

viewtopic.php?p=36836358#p36836358


I did. I explained that in that statement asking you to explain what you meant. Something you refused to do.

Don't even bother Tarsonis, he is never going to answer the question, preferring to play these silly little games instead, in an attempt to distract from the fact he has repeatedly refused to answer a simple question.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:11 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I did. I explained that in that statement asking you to explain what you meant. Something you refused to do.


So, let me get on your cryptic way of explaining: You don't support the fact that homosexuality is not a sin? Do you have biblical reference? Do you have reference from Christian scholars or those of your "denomination"?


Sure I do. But that still doesnt answer the simply question, of "what do you mean?" You made the statement, I'm asking you to clarify. Why can't you do this?
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:12 am

The New California Republic wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
I did. I explained that in that statement asking you to explain what you meant. Something you refused to do.

Don't even bother Tarsonis, he is never going to answer the question, preferring to play these silly little games instead, in an attempt to distract from the fact he has repeatedly refused to answer a simple question.


Yeah, I think at this point you're right.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:23 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
So, let me get on your cryptic way of explaining: You don't support the fact that homosexuality is not a sin? Do you have biblical reference? Do you have reference from Christian scholars or those of your "denomination"?


Sure I do. But that still doesnt answer the simply question, of "what do you mean?" You made the statement, I'm asking you to clarify. Why can't you do this?


Where in the Bible does it state homosexuality is a sin? Tell me, since you have expertise~
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:26 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Sure I do. But that still doesnt answer the simply question, of "what do you mean?" You made the statement, I'm asking you to clarify. Why can't you do this?


Where in the Bible does it state homosexuality is a sin? Tell me, since you have expertise~

WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU USING?

Sorry to yell, but this is a simple question. You should be able to answer it.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:28 am

Dogmeat wrote:
Imperial Joseon wrote:
Where in the Bible does it state homosexuality is a sin? Tell me, since you have expertise~

WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU USING?

Sorry to yell, but this is a simple question. You should be able to answer it.


What bible is Tarsonis Survivors using? He should be able to answer it.
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Tarsonis
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:28 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Sure I do. But that still doesnt answer the simply question, of "what do you mean?" You made the statement, I'm asking you to clarify. Why can't you do this?


Where in the Bible does it state homosexuality is a sin? Tell me, since you have expertise~


Alright I'll bight, but this is why I was asking you to clarify, because the question isnt quite straightforward in the modern context. It depends on what you mean by "homosexuality," which can have several connotations. Clarify what you mean by homosexuality and I can better answer the question.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Dogmeat
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:31 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU USING?

Sorry to yell, but this is a simple question. You should be able to answer it.


What bible is Tarsonis Survivors using? He should be able to answer it.

I don't care what Bible Tarsonis is using. You're the one who said that his Bible is wrong, and by implication yours is right. I want to know what you think the "right" Bible is.

I also don't care about homosexuality. Stop dodging the question.
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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:32 am

Tarsonis wrote:
Alright I'll bight, but this is why I was asking you to clarify, because the question isnt quite straightforward in the modern context. It depends on what you mean by "homosexuality," which can have several connotations. Clarify what you mean by homosexuality and I can better answer the question.


Well, one of the biblical versions suggest it's sexual intercourse between two men, stated both in the Old Testament.

About time. :roll:
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:36 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
Alright I'll bight, but this is why I was asking you to clarify, because the question isnt quite straightforward in the modern context. It depends on what you mean by "homosexuality," which can have several connotations. Clarify what you mean by homosexuality and I can better answer the question.


Well, one of the biblical versions suggest it's sexual intercourse between two men, stated both in the Old Testament.


The new as well. I'll elaborate when I'm home from the gym

About time. :roll:


The hold up here was entirely you. We spent an hour in that circle for you to finally answer my question.

This should have been your response to "what now?" Not that entire game you were playing
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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Imperial Joseon
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:42 am

Tarsonis wrote:
The new as well. I'll elaborate when I'm home from the gym.


I smell avoidance, but that's you, not I. :roll:


This should have been your response to "what now?" Not that entire game you were playing


Hey, you didn't elaborate on your "what now?". You were playing the game obviously. Duh.
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Dogmeat
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Postby Dogmeat » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:44 am

"Hey, Dogmeat. I'm using the NRSV translation."

See? It's not hard.
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The New California Republic
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Postby The New California Republic » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:51 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Dogmeat wrote:WHAT BIBLE ARE YOU USING?

Sorry to yell, but this is a simple question. You should be able to answer it.


What bible is Tarsonis Survivors using? He should be able to answer it.

Answer the question, instead of refusing to answer it and then hypocritically asking the exact same question to someone else in the expectation that they will answer it.
Last edited by Sigmund Freud on Sat Sep 23, 1939 2:23 am, edited 999 times in total.

The Irradiated Wasteland of The New California Republic: depicting the expanded NCR, several years after the total victory over Caesar's Legion, and the annexation of New Vegas and its surrounding areas.

White-collared conservatives flashing down the street
Pointing their plastic finger at me
They're hoping soon, my kind will drop and die
But I'm going to wave my freak flag high
Wave on, wave on
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Postby Tarsonis » Wed Mar 18, 2020 7:53 am

Imperial Joseon wrote:
Tarsonis wrote:
The new as well. I'll elaborate when I'm home from the gym.


I smell avoidance, but that's you, not I. :roll:


No you smell me at the gym. Just finished deadlifts. I smell like booty

This should have been your response to "what now?" Not that entire game you were playing


Hey, you didn't elaborate on your "what now?". You were playing the game obviously. Duh.


But I did. I said it four times.
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Ecclesiastes 1:18 "For in much wisdom is much vexation, and those who increase knowledge increase sorrow"
Thucydides: “The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools.”
1 Corinthians 5:12 "What business is it of mine to judge those outside the church? Are you not to judge those inside?"
Galatians 6:7 "Do not be deceived; God is not mocked, for you reap whatever you sow."
T. Stevens: "I don't hold with equality in all things, but I believe in equality under the Law."
James I of Aragon "Have you ever considered that our position is Idolatry to the Rabbi?"
Debating Christian Theology with Non-Christians pretty much anybody be like

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