Christian Discussion Thread XI: Anicetus’ Revenge

[Lord Dominator]

Does anyone feel spiritual attack through the game? There are players RPing with demonic names and satanic imagery. Their presence normalizes a corrupting and evil influence. I'm thinking of leaving cause it just seems too prevalent right now. Just sharing my thoughts. Hi to all.

I do not feel a spiritual attack because of other players

[Tarsonis]

I personally think so.

You personally think Yoga is demonic?
How? Why?

it's a form of meditation involving involving theological from a non Abrahamic faith. Old school christian view is anything not expressly Christian is demonic. Had to literally teach other theology teachers why this isn't so

[Sundiata]

I personally think so.

You personally think Yoga is demonic?
How? Why?

I lean more in that direction. I think it could be sinful because it's a pagan spiritual practice. Serious yoga doesn't distinguish between matter and form, conflating the two as one. This is known as monism. It's also gnostic in the sense that it in my view, denigrates the the material world..

Here's another good piece.

Oh no, he does. I explained the theological context and where the Pope gets his authority to anoint kings.

The Church: We're all brothers and sisters in christ, equal before the eyes of our lord.

Also the Church: Aight you're the king. You can do whatever you want as long as you help us keep our power and our wealth.

I personally think so.

It's just stretching.

Sure, it started in a religious context, but most people don't have a connection to that.

I think that most people today are in spiritual peril. The connection that most people have is benign but I do suspect yoga to be very risky. Not so much for the stretches themselves, but the ideas.

[Lost Memories]

Fellow Christians of NationStates, what's your "Demonic Possession Score?" I managed to tick off eight.

Yeah, most of the list is pretty silly. Not all of it though, post-modernism and twilight films are pretty cursed.
I'm let down the pokemons weren't included in there. But maybe that list is older than 1995.

As much as it's a funny game to count them, the number doesn't really matter. One entry-point or doorway is enough, if it takes hold, which isn't guaranteed.
(4 btw)

[Dylar]

It's just stretching.

Sure, it started in a religious context, but most people don't have a connection to that.

I think that most people today are in spiritual peril. The connection that most people have is benign but I do suspect yoga to be very risky. Not so much for the stretches themselves, but the ideas.

Only if you think about the religious context of yoga. I don't. I just do it to stretch so I don't strain my body after doing lots of manual labor

[Celritannia]

You personally think Yoga is demonic?
How? Why?

I lean more in that direction. I think it could be sinful because it's a pagan spiritual practice. Serious yoga doesn't distinguish between matter and form, conflating the two as one. This is known as monism. It's also gnostic in the sense that it in my view, denigrates the the material world..

I am not reading a piece of Catholic propaganda.

Most of Christmas is pagan, yet you still take part in all the pagan elements. As is Easter too.

Yoga is used for good exercise, just because it is from another culture or religion, does not make it demonic. That's like saying all other cultures and religions are demonic because they are not euro-centric christians.

[Ethel mermania]

Tbf, I think the twilight films do belong on the list.

Eh, so were the Beatles.

For the meditation or Marijuana parties?

[Sundiata]

I think that most people today are in spiritual peril. The connection that most people have is benign but I do suspect yoga to be very risky. Not so much for the stretches themselves, but the ideas.

Only if you think about the religious context of yoga. I don't. I just do it to stretch so I don't strain my body after doing lots of manual labor

When you say you do yoga what are you exactly talking about? Just the stretches? The stretches and the mantra?

Do you attend a class?

[The New California Republic]

It's also total nonsense that meditation is demonic. It ignores the fact that there are a wide variety of forms of meditation, some secular and some religious, including a Christian form of meditation.

[The Blaatschapen]

While I've never seen the Twilight movies, what is exactly cursed about them?

Specifically in a Christian context, why are they singled out? And not say, Buffy the vampire slayer? Or any other vampire movie?

I do have a rant in defense of it, but that would be better off in the feminism thread

[Punished UMN]

Fellow Christians of NationStates, what's your "Demonic Possession Score?" I managed to tick off eight.

Yeah, most of the list is pretty silly. Not all of it though, post-modernism and twilight films are pretty cursed.
I'm let down the pokemons weren't included in there. But maybe that list is older than 1995.

As much as it's a funny game to count them, the number doesn't really matter. One entry-point or doorway is enough, if it takes hold, which isn't guaranteed.
(4 btw)

What do you think Postmodernism is?

[Sundiata]

I lean more in that direction. I think it could be sinful because it's a pagan spiritual practice. Serious yoga doesn't distinguish between matter and form, conflating the two as one. This is known as monism. It's also gnostic in the sense that it in my view, denigrates the the material world..

I am not reading a piece of Catholic propaganda.

Most of Christmas is pagan, yet you still take part in all the pagan elements. As is Easter too.

Yoga is used for good exercise, just because it is from another culture or religion, does not make it demonic. That's like saying all other cultures and religions are demonic because they are not euro-centric christians.

Why did you ask me why I think that yoga is demonic and refuse to read the source I provided?

Slow down. Don't be hostile. Read the source. I'm not criticizing any culture in particular, this criticism is theological and pertains to specific forms of philosophy: monism, gnosticism, etc.

[Lost Memories]

Most of Christmas is pagan, yet you still take part in all the pagan elements. As is Easter too.

Again with that?

Christmas was celebrated since the first centuries, the more colorful elements like the tree, were introduced in Germany when it was getting evangelized.

Easter = Passover, originally a jewish feast to celebrate the freeing of the jews from egypt, which was then reused by christians to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus.
Again, things like the chocolate eggs were introduced later (chocolate eggs are actually a very modern invention, there were no chocolate cakes or eggs in the middle ages, because no cacao before the discovery of the americas)

Yoga is used for good exercise, just because it is from another culture or religion, does not make it demonic. That's like saying all other cultures and religions are demonic because they are not euro-centric christians.

What does "demonic" mean for you? And how is it supposed to work?
It has nothing to do with that.

[Lost Memories]

Yeah, most of the list is pretty silly. Not all of it though, post-modernism and twilight films are pretty cursed.
I'm let down the pokemons weren't included in there. But maybe that list is older than 1995.

As much as it's a funny game to count them, the number doesn't really matter. One entry-point or doorway is enough, if it takes hold, which isn't guaranteed.
(4 btw)

What do you think Postmodernism is?

A society, we live in. (if master Yoda was a clown)

[Punished UMN]

What do you think Postmodernism is?

A society, we live in. (if master Yoda was a clown)

I mean, clever, but postmodernism is simply a method of social analysis that questions assumptions of innate qualities in social institutions, and was especially focused on attacking modernist ideas of social truth, like progress, rationalism, and empiricism.

[Sundiata]

Again with that?

It wasn't right for him to dismiss my source as Catholic propaganda without even reading it just because it's a perspective on yoga written from a Catholic perspective. If he didn't care to discuss these ideas then why ask?

We can disagree without being disagreeable. We can be calm.

[Nakena]

Does anyone feel spiritual attack through the game? There are players RPing with demonic names and satanic imagery. Their presence normalizes a corrupting and evil influence. I'm thinking of leaving cause it just seems too prevalent right now. Just sharing my thoughts. Hi to all.

Which game? Do you mean NationStates?

It's mostly harmless.

[Suriyanakhon]

Growing up, I've been to some churches that believed that yoga invited demonic possession.

I personally think so.

Modern American yoga is so divorced from Indian religious practices originally called that, it's now just a bunch of physical exercises. I really fail to see how any of that could possibly be “inviting demonic possession.”

[Celritannia]

Most of Christmas is pagan, yet you still take part in all the pagan elements. As is Easter too.

Again with that?

Christmas was celebrated since the first centuries, the more colorful elements like the tree, were introduced in Germany when it was getting evangelized.

Easter = Passover, originally a jewish feast to celebrate the freeing of the jews from egypt, which was then reused by christians to celebrate the resurrection of Jesus.
Again, things like the chocolate eggs were introduced later (chocolate eggs are actually a very modern invention, there were no chocolate cakes or eggs in the middle ages, because no cacao before the discovery of the americas)

Yoga is used for good exercise, just because it is from another culture or religion, does not make it demonic. That's like saying all other cultures and religions are demonic because they are not euro-centric christians.

What does "demonic" mean for you? And how is it supposed to work?
It has nothing to do with that.

The idea of the winter festivals is older than Christianity. The idea of decorating a tree during the winter seasons is older than christianity. The idea of Gift Giving is older than Christianity.
Saturnalia and Yuletide for example.

Easter, comes from the Goddess Ēostre. The idea of Decorating eggs comes from Ancient Egypt. The idea of spring being the moment of rebirth and fertility, is older than Christianity.

To try and deny it is refusing to understand basic fucking history.

There is no such thing as "demonic power", because I do not believe in its existence.

[Celritannia]

Again with that?

It wasn't right for him to dismiss my source as Catholic propaganda without even reading it just because it's a perspective on yoga written from a Catholic perspective. If he didn't care to discuss these ideas then why ask?

We can disagree without being disagreeable. We can be calm.

I am not reading a piece of Catholic propaganda.

Most of Christmas is pagan, yet you still take part in all the pagan elements. As is Easter too.

Yoga is used for good exercise, just because it is from another culture or religion, does not make it demonic. That's like saying all other cultures and religions are demonic because they are not euro-centric christians.

Why did you ask me why I think that yoga is demonic and refuse to read the source I provided?

Slow down. Don't be hostile. Read the source. I'm not criticizing any culture in particular, this criticism is theological and pertains to specific forms of philosophy: monism, gnosticism, etc.

I am not reading something where one religion is calling another religion demonic, because that's not true in anyway.


A religion calling other religions demonic is not propaganda? Oh my...

[Neanderthaland]

I personally think so.

Modern American yoga is so divorced from Indian religious practices originally called that, it's now just a bunch of physical exercises. I really fail to see how any of that could possibly be “inviting demonic possession.”

May as well complain that we're using a Pagan alphabet.

[Celritannia]

Modern American yoga is so divorced from Indian religious practices originally called that, it's now just a bunch of physical exercises. I really fail to see how any of that could possibly be “inviting demonic possession.”

May as well complain that we're using a Pagan alphabet.

This is true.

[The Blaatschapen]

Btw, the real reason why Dungeons and Dragons is on that list:

https://www.smbc-comics.com/index.php?id=2636

[Sundiata]

It wasn't right for him to dismiss my source as Catholic propaganda without even reading it just because it's a perspective on yoga written from a Catholic perspective. If he didn't care to discuss these ideas then why ask?

We can disagree without being disagreeable. We can be calm.

Why did you ask me why I think that yoga is demonic and refuse to read the source I provided?

Slow down. Don't be hostile. Read the source. I'm not criticizing any culture in particular, this criticism is theological and pertains to specific forms of philosophy: monism, gnosticism, etc.

I am not reading something where one religion is calling another religion demonic, because that's not true in anyway.


A religion calling other religions demonic is not propaganda? Oh my...

My source didn't call yoga demonic. You'd know that if you would just calm down and actually read it.

Here.

[Suriyanakhon]

Fellow Christians of NationStates, what's your "Demonic Possession Score?" I managed to tick off eight.

This is just something I chanced across whilst browsing Reddit, and thought you all might get a laugh out of it. I find it particularly hilarious that someone would think that reading The Lord of the Rings, a book series by a deeply Christian author who consciously incorporated Christian theological concepts into his work, might bring about demonic possession.

> re-birthing

Excuse me, what.