Northumbrian independence

[The Rurkovich Imperium]

Yes, it's so obvious that they identify with a nation dead for a millennia. It's so blindingly obvious(!)

A distinct North East (Northumbrian) identity does exist today, you know. It’s not tied to the kingdom of Northumbria.

So now the goalpost has been moved to not involve the kingdom? Please make up your mind. Not to worry though the idea is just as ridiculous as before, but you could at least be consistent.

[The New California Republic]

But you just said this was about governments not nationhood.

Separate quotes, separate lines of discussion.

Not really, it is all part and parcel of your argument.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

A distinct North East (Northumbrian) identity does exist today, you know. It’s not tied to the kingdom of Northumbria.

Sure they do, but not to the extent they want a nation, or that the southern Scots identify as Northumbrian, as you claim.

See my previous post on southern Scots. And bro another local literally just chimed in to express their support. If this is so fringe what are the chances of that

[Munkcestrian Republic]

A distinct North East (Northumbrian) identity does exist today, you know. It’s not tied to the kingdom of Northumbria.

So now the goalpost has been moved to not involve the kingdom? Please make up your mind. Not to worry though the idea is just as ridiculous as before, but you could at least be consistent.

The goalpost does involve the kingdom. Northumbria is just much more than the kingdom.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Separate quotes, separate lines of discussion.

Not really, it is all part and parcel of your argument.

Yes really.

[The New California Republic]

Sure they do, but not to the extent they want a nation, or that the southern Scots identify as Northumbrian, as you claim.

See my previous post on southern Scots. And bro another local literally just chimed in to express their support. If this is so fringe what are the chances of that

Which said fuck all regarding them identifying as what you think they do. And he didn't express support at all, as he said I don't see what it would bring to the table, and it takes a hell of a lot of doublethink to conclude that supports Northumbrian independence.

[The Rurkovich Imperium]

So now the goalpost has been moved to not involve the kingdom? Please make up your mind. Not to worry though the idea is just as ridiculous as before, but you could at least be consistent.

The goalpost does involve the kingdom. Northumbria is just much more than the kingdom.

So it's both. Oh fun, I'm going to declare myself Northumbrian through some long lost bloodline and claim my random household in the middle of America as part of this new nation considering the bar has now hit the floor.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

Why should we care to support the recreation of a nation that has not existed for over 1,000 years?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

See my previous post on southern Scots. And bro another local literally just chimed in to express their support. If this is so fringe what are the chances of that

Which said fuck all regarding them identifying as what you think they do. And he didn't express support at all, as he said I don't see what it would bring to the table, and it takes a hell of a lot of doublethink to conclude that supports Northumbrian independence.

He said he doesn’t see what Northumberland would bring to the table. Which is fair enough because they’re basically just a bunch of posh southerners to the north.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

The goalpost does involve the kingdom. Northumbria is just much more than the kingdom.

So it's both. Oh fun, I'm going to declare myself Northumbrian through some long lost bloodline and claim my random household in the middle of America as part of this new nation considering the bar has now hit the floor.

Well actually the United States is only independent thanks to the efforts of George Washington, a Northumbrian

[The New California Republic]

Which said fuck all regarding them identifying as what you think they do. And he didn't express support at all, as he said I don't see what it would bring to the table, and it takes a hell of a lot of doublethink to conclude that supports Northumbrian independence.

He said he doesn’t see what Northumberland would bring to the table. Which is fair enough because they’re basically just a bunch of posh southerners to the north.

And again none of that indicates his support for your idea. You are seriously stretching by thinking that it does.

[Heloin]

But you just said this was about governments not nationhood.

Separate quotes, separate lines of discussion.

Not really no, your just contradicting yourself.

[Aureumterra]

Make Northumbria Norse Again

[Ifreann]

And? That Franklin thing was just a government. It wasn’t a serious long-term proposal for a state
within the US. So we are talking about governments right now.

By the way, the Northumbrian independence movement is pretty recent so... yeah. If we’re going off something being recent giving it the most legitimacy Northumbria is very legitimate.

And small. Just one or two people, it seems.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Make Northumbria Norse Again

Make Poland Nazi Germany Again.

Equally as funny considering what your people did to Northumbria.

[The Rurkovich Imperium]

So it's both. Oh fun, I'm going to declare myself Northumbrian through some long lost bloodline and claim my random household in the middle of America as part of this new nation considering the bar has now hit the floor.

Well actually the United States is only independent thanks to the efforts of George Washington, a Northumbrian

What stage of imperialism is reached when a new nation forms around a fabricated national identity so they can gain a ludicrous amount of territory in the name of nationalism?

I for one support the establishment of the Indo-European nation on the basis of a common language. It shall comprise of the entire earth.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Well actually the United States is only independent thanks to the efforts of George Washington, a Northumbrian

What stage of imperialism is reached when a new nation forms around a fabricated national identity so they can gain a ludicrous amount of territory in the name of nationalism?

I for one support the establishment of the Indo-European nation on the basis of a common language. It shall comprise of the entire earth.

I’m not claiming the United States for Northumbria. Why the hell would we want it?

[The New California Republic]

By the way, the Northumbrian independence movement is pretty recent so... yeah. If we’re going off something being recent giving it the most legitimacy Northumbria is very legitimate.

And small. Just one or two people, it seems.

Oh but they will somehow make enough people care enough to Balkanize the UK, just you wait(!)

[The Rurkovich Imperium]

Make Northumbria Norse Again

Make Poland Nazi Germany Again.

Equally as funny considering what your people did to Northumbria.

A gross simplification of what happened in Poland. One group believed it was ethnically superior to the other and saw a minority as less than human and deserved nothing but death.

The other led a series of bloody raids and eventual conquest to eventually intermingle with the natives to produce a new cultural identity.

Also, again with Godwin's law.

[LiberNovusAmericae]

And small. Just one or two people, it seems.

Oh but they will somehow make enough people care enough to Balkanize the UK, just you wait(!)

I wonder how long even this thread will last. All the others were closed by Moderation.

[The Rurkovich Imperium]

What stage of imperialism is reached when a new nation forms around a fabricated national identity so they can gain a ludicrous amount of territory in the name of nationalism?

I for one support the establishment of the Indo-European nation on the basis of a common language. It shall comprise of the entire earth.

I’m not claiming the United States for Northumbria. Why the hell would we want it?

Oh, now we are asking where we draw the line.

edit: grammar :v

[Heloin]

So it's both. Oh fun, I'm going to declare myself Northumbrian through some long lost bloodline and claim my random household in the middle of America as part of this new nation considering the bar has now hit the floor.

Well actually the United States is only independent thanks to the efforts of George Washington, a Northumbrian

His family is from the midlands and France so...

[The New California Republic]

Oh but they will somehow make enough people care enough to Balkanize the UK, just you wait(!)

I wonder how long even this thread will last. All the others were closed by Moderation.

If it's still open by morning I'll be surprised. It's just an Electric Boogaloo 2 of the last thread.

[The Holy Therns]

What stage of imperialism is reached when a new nation forms around a fabricated national identity so they can gain a ludicrous amount of territory in the name of nationalism?

I for one support the establishment of the Indo-European nation on the basis of a common language. It shall comprise of the entire earth.

I’m not claiming the United States for Northumbria. Why the hell would we want it?

Well, unlike Northumbria, its distinct culture still exists and living memory can testify to its presence in its context.

[Ebengar]

If, If, somehow, there was enough support in Northern England for "Northumbrian Independence", then why mix the Scots up in it? Just give "Northumbria" the Tripartite Indenture borders and let that be the end of it.

That's my view on it, anyway.