Northumbrian independence

[Estanglia]

And I did a real-life poll too. 100% of the people I asked said that Northumbrian independence is a dumb idea.

What's your response?

It's a shame people are just making stuff up now in some desperate attempt to prove Northumbrian independence is bad. Obviously, I am at fault for the lack of a reasonable discussion here.

Yes, yes you are.

You're at fault for pulling a poll out of your ass and acting shocked, shocked I tell you, that people would mock that.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

You also became the first realm to fully, completely, and totally fall to vikings. That alone makes any argument you might make fully invalid lmao.

*country in the middle of a civil war which has been having civil wars every couple of years for decades united against an invading army and nearly won

At its height, Northumbria wasn't even the regional power in England

Please at least google Anglo-Saxon history before commenting on it

[Munkcestrian Republic]

If the UK dissolves, which is not the aim of Northumbrian independence but is likely to happen, Northumbria could take Trident and put it in the Tees or something. We can all defend ourselves.

Excerpt from How To Bankrupt Your Newly-Independent State.

Norse reparation money will pay for it.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I feel like the problem with this thread is the fact that Munk asserts there is some level of support for Northumbrian independence in Northumberland. I wonder if he'd face this level of near-unanimous backlash if he'd just plain-ass said "I support Northumbrian independence" without any extra troubles.

I would and I have

[Agarntrop]

Never going to happen. There is no distinct northumbrian identity. I'd take Welsh or Cornish nationalists more seriously that this.

Tbh i would take even yorkshire independence more seriously than anything munk says

[Estanglia]

Partitioning Britain into a small number of weak, irrelevant countries without any hope for Empire is of absolute importance. Forming Northumbria is only a first step.

"weak, irrelevant countries"? The last time Northumbria was independent we made almost the entire world use the calendar we decided to use. I'm not sure it would end up the way you think it would.

Your "country" would have a population of, let's be generous, 6 million, on par with Scotland.

Roughly on par with Slovakia, the Central African Republic, Turkmenistan and Kyrgyzstan. One million less than Bulgaria.

Tell me, how relevant are those countries? I could put money on the fact you're not busy worrying about the next move from Bulgaria, are you?

No offence to anyone from Slovakia, the CAR, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan or Bulgaria.

[Estanglia]

They are just lampooning the fact that you did that exact thing first, i.e. made shit up about a "poll", but in some desperate attempt to prove that Northumbrian independence has support.

Why would I need to make it up? There is support for Northumbrian independence.

You, one other guy in this thread and that racist asshat.

"Support" indeed.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Never going to happen. There is no distinct northumbrian identity. I'd take Welsh or Cornish nationalists more seriously that this.

"There is no distinct northumbrian identity."

except there is

What do we Northumbrians need to do to get the support of anti-imperialist leftists? Get the king to throw a party where everyone has to come in fancy dress and declare that our entire culture while also saying we never did anything bad ever and the British Empire was entirely England's fault?

[Andsed]

Excerpt from How To Bankrupt Your Newly-Independent State.

Norse reparation money will pay for it.

What?

[Ifreann]

Excerpt from How To Bankrupt Your Newly-Independent State.

Norse reparation money will pay for it.

Oh good, we've reached the fantasy part of the thread.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

It's a shame people are just making stuff up now in some desperate attempt to prove Northumbrian independence is bad. Obviously, I am at fault for the lack of a reasonable discussion here.

Yes, yes you are.

You're at fault for pulling a poll out of your ass and acting shocked, shocked I tell you, that people would mock that.

Talking to people and informing NSG of their response is now "pulling a poll out of your ass".

[Estanglia]

At least it's a poll

According to the poll 29% of Scottish nationalists (the main demographic of the OurScotland Tapatalk group) want the Northumbrian territories north of the Anglo-Scottish border to be returned to us. That's more than enough for a pro-Northumbrian government in Scotland to be established.

> 29%
> Barely more than one quarter
> Sample size: 7 people
> "More than enough"

Pull the other one.

[Neanderthaland]

You also became the first realm to fully, completely, and totally fall to vikings. That alone makes any argument you might make fully invalid lmao.

*country in the middle of a civil war which has been having civil wars every couple of years for decades united against an invading army and nearly won

A country that fights a civil war every couple of years for decades probably shouldn't be recreated.

[The New California Republic]

Excerpt from How To Bankrupt Your Newly-Independent State.

Norse reparation money will pay for it.

What a pathetic rebuttal.

[Kavagrad]

Surrovian independence and the inevitability of Communism.

[Agarntrop]

Excerpt from How To Bankrupt Your Newly-Independent State.

Norse reparation money will pay for it.

Oh wait, you're serious? Let me laugh even harder.

[Estanglia]

May I point out that Northumbrian voters voted by 78% against devolution in 2004, so the vote on idependence would probably be even more emphatically against.

We've been over this previously.

That your bullshit arguments are old doesn't change that they're bullshit.

[Glamour]

Answer my questions!

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I feel like the problem with this thread is the fact that Munk asserts there is some level of support for Northumbrian independence in Northumberland. I wonder if he'd face this level of near-unanimous backlash if he'd just plain-ass said "I support Northumbrian independence" without any extra troubles.

...which the number of supporters still being zero, as mentioned time immemorial.

I guess the current wave of backlash against the idea would be significantly less if he didn't make three whole threads about it.

lol this is basically identical to page 1 of the original thread.

[Ifreann]

Yes, yes you are.

You're at fault for pulling a poll out of your ass and acting shocked, shocked I tell you, that people would mock that.

Talking to people and informing NSG of their response is now "pulling a poll out of your ass".

I mean.

Yeah.

[-Astoria]

imagine the Falklands poll except more humiliating

Or Gibraltar's, even.

	Votes	%
Yes	187	1.03%
No	17,900	98.97%

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It's a shame people are just making stuff up now in some desperate attempt to prove Northumbrian independence is bad. Obviously, I am at fault for the lack of a reasonable discussion here.

This, but unironically.

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What do we Northumbrians need to do to get the support of anti-imperialist leftists?

Hmm, I dunno... maybe finding people who would actually support independence, perhaps - and preferably with more concrete reasons than wanting to resurrect a long-dead kingdom, mmm?

[Estanglia]

You can believe me.

Given that you have been very evasive about this "poll" for the past several pages, I'm hammering X to doubt on that one.

That poor x button. We've been hammering it for almost 20 pages now.

[Andsed]

Yes, yes you are.

You're at fault for pulling a poll out of your ass and acting shocked, shocked I tell you, that people would mock that.

Talking to people and informing NSG of their response is now "pulling a poll out of your ass".

And the proof that you did indeed talk to these people and their response was what you said it was is? Cause I am not seeing any reason to give you benefit of the doubt here.

[The New California Republic]

Yes, yes you are.

You're at fault for pulling a poll out of your ass and acting shocked, shocked I tell you, that people would mock that.

Talking to people and informing NSG of their response is now "pulling a poll out of your ass".

Not seeing that their reply was lampooning your "poll" is just fucking hilarious.

[Agarntrop]

We've been over this previously.

That your bullshit arguments are old doesn't change that they're bullshit.

Yes, the only difference now is that they're also filled with maggots.