Hong Kong II - Ragnarök

[Bombadil]

Well I guess he is gone, but anyways sure not everyone in Hong Kong is in the Yellow camp, some are Blue and many might naively feel they can sit it out. Although this is nearly impossible as seen by the “with or against us” demands made to force businesses to publicly declare support for the Blue camp, but again this fits Schmitt and Jiang’s “friend enemy distinction” and that you are either with the regime or against it.

But still Hong Kong culture has been heavily Westernized and still the PRC is deploying an inquisition to persecute those not ascribing to, or at least submitting to the PRC‘s ideology which is openly hostile to the West and Western ideas of political freedoms.

The HK police are by far the least popular of all services, ranking lower even than the PLA garrison, that's quite some feat. In the latest poll a full 44% of respondents gave them 0 marks out of 100.

[Novus America]

Why do the Baltimore Ravens want to beat the Pittsburgh Steelers?

It is a competition. It is not hypocritical to want to win a competition. The West should seek to defeat the PRC in this competition.

But Taoism and Buddhism (which is Indian anyways) are completely irrelevant. The PRC is not Taoist, Xi is not Taoist, and Jiang is not Taoist. And obviously the political philosophies of Schmitt are completely different than, and usually mutually exclusive to Taoism and Buddhism. Xi and Jiang ascribe to Schmitt, not Taoism or Buddhism.

I know enough Schmitt that I do not have to read Jiang’s writing in Chinese.

And again he makes the context clear. The West to him is the enemy, and an enemy to be overcome, its ideas replaced with the ideas of Xi.
And this is what the PRC obviously intends to do (and is doing) in Hong Kong.

[Bombadil]

The thing is Xi Jinping is a game changer, he's established himself in power for life to undertake his particular brand of socialism, which frankly is not much different to Mao - he believes that to transform China the people must undergo ideological change, putting the party, with him at the head, first in life. If this is to be forced with social credits, concentration camps in Xinjiang, shutting down dissent in HK, placing high emphasis on patriotism and correct thought in education among a myriad of other things then so be it, and if force must be used then it shall.

Chinese culture, schmultzer, the four olds of tradition must be destroyed and a new, ideologically pure China made in Xi's image will arise.

It's hard to know if he's being ultra-aggressive right now because he feels under pressure or because he's taking advantage of the world being distracted, I'd hope it's the former and he makes some egregious mistake, aggression over all borders is probably a cry to nationalism though.

His eye is on Taiwan though.

Still, the speed and aggression with which they've pulled any curtain of pretence from the status of HK, and worse the abject obsequiousness of HK officials, is quite shocking to be honest. If the world does not, or cannot, help, HK will be very very different in the next 5 years.

[The Horror Channel]

I put my faith in Hasselhoff

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

I was banned for saying "are you really better than those who you say you want to kill," bizarrely. For Novus:"The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek
and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten. The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten."




An anonymous someone doesn't even ban me, they delete my nation. At least ban temporarily and most importantly, give a reason?I'm sorry if I caused offense, but please be specific.I spent a lot of time on it.Stop engaging in confirmation bias and actually debate me.This is my first day posting and this happens.I'm willing to learn.I've already attached apologies to each of my posts.Ironically, you're an antifree speech person who can't appreciate satirical humor.What, SNL should be banned?Who's next, John Oliver?

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

So Novus thinks Hayek and Zizek are Nazis.Wow.

[Tuthina]

I was banned for saying "are you really better than those who you say you want to kill," bizarrely. For Novus:"The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek
and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten. The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten."




An anonymous someone doesn't even ban me, they delete my nation. At least ban temporarily and most importantly, give a reason?I'm sorry if I caused offense, but please be specific.I spent a lot of time on it.Stop engaging in confirmation bias and actually debate me.This is my first day posting and this happens.I'm willing to learn.I've already attached apologies to each of my posts.Ironically, you're an antifree speech person who can't appreciate satirical humor.What, SNL should be banned?Who's next, John Oliver?

Just saying that making new accounts for the purpose of evading ban will probably not end well for all your accounts, now and future. It seems your previous accounts are deleted more due to their spam-like names, though, rather than bans.

[Bombadil]

An anonymous someone doesn't even ban me, they delete my nation. At least ban temporarily and most importantly, give a reason?I'm sorry if I caused offense, but please be specific.I spent a lot of time on it.Stop engaging in confirmation bias and actually debate me.This is my first day posting and this happens.I'm willing to learn.I've already attached apologies to each of my posts.Ironically, you're an antifree speech person who can't appreciate satirical humor.What, SNL should be banned?Who's next, John Oliver?

Your nation is being deleted not because of your views but because your original nation had, essentially, a swear word in it. It seems you were assumed to be DoS and so reported for it. This site has moderators who monitor and, perhaps, they mistakenly DoS'd you given you were reported.

It's not censorship.

Still your views are little misguided given they don't delineate between the culture of the CCP, and specifically of Xi Jinping - you can download a lovely app and take tests on Xi Jinping thought, government officials in China have to download this app or they'll lose points.

You can also read his words, what he says. You can also note he's abolished term limits to accrue more power to himself to implant his ideology on the people, force it on the people of Xinjiang through forced re-education, and now forcing it on HK in direct contravention of international treaty.

It's not about China per se, it's about him, he's as bad as Trump but at least the US can get rid of Trump.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

I was banned for saying "are you really better than those who you say you want to kill," bizarrely. For Novus:"The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek
and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten. The FIRST PAGE of wikipedia:"Slavoj Žižek and Friedrich Hayek [were influenced by Schmitt]," a nonpartizan article below: https://fee.org/articles/carl-schmitt-t ... the-right/ Never trust anyone who believes in Western philosophy.2,000 years of immaturity, it's still going. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Schmitt You're badly enmeshed in confirmation bias.Yet Novus claimed because ONE wikipedia user who edited it constantly for 2 years that he believed in Zizek's ideas, that makes Mr Chiang's ideas verboten."




An anonymous someone doesn't even ban me, they delete my nation. At least ban temporarily and most importantly, give a reason?I'm sorry if I caused offense, but please be specific.I spent a lot of time on it.Stop engaging in confirmation bias and actually debate me.This is my first day posting and this happens.I'm willing to learn.I've already attached apologies to each of my posts.Ironically, you're an antifree speech person who can't appreciate satirical humor.What, SNL should be banned?Who's next, John Oliver?

Just saying that making new accounts for the purpose of evading ban will probably not end well for all your accounts, now and future. It seems your previous accounts are deleted more due to their spam-like names, though, rather than bans.

Sorry, but Novus America implying that Friedrich Hayek AND Slavoj Zizek's a Nazi was enough.My mind is exploding.It's my first day posting.I'm back to spending time on my beloved friend chicken rice and Kdrama and not translating 20,000+word plus essays.It's like the one man United Nations.

[Novus America]

Anyways I never said Xi or Jiang were Nazis, after all despite many things in common there are differences. Being influenced by Schmitt does make one a Nazi, the issue here was specifically the use of the friend enemy distinction from Schmitt, which makes cooperation impossible.

Xi and Jiang view the West as an enemy to be defeated.
And the West, and those in Hong Kong who want to keep the Western aspects of their society should naturally try to fight back.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

Before I address this stuff (1.I literally quoted in the above post the first paragraph of wikipedia's Biography on schmitt that says, "Zizek and Hayek were both influenced by Schmitt" 2.there's only one guy editing Mr Chiang's page, so you have to take it "w a grain of salt" because (Chinese proverb):"Just one man's advice is not reputable." If you read the Chinese edition you'd see no such nonsense.What he means by "replace" has been espoused by many Chinese users with Ivy league degrees etc both in real life/on quora, 「知乎」, etc and not one user's edited, partizan wikipedia page. It's of actual world peace, harmony and cooperation like Germany, one of Europe's least interventionist countries, direct democracy like Schweiz-why not?China's modernization was based on Germany and preReligious Right USA. France was where the craziest future political theory wizards and other magicians went to learn the dark arts.

and Absolutely, under no circumstances, an American style partizan massacre, or France and Italy with their "revolving doors."60+govts since WW2 all over the political spectrum,
"Years of Lead" (Italy)/riots in Paris (1968) among notable cases, no way.I read a Quebec independence guy who said the French are raised political activists.Yikes, missionaries. Ideally, China would become a tax haven Nordic country:business friendly, neutral, low tax etc. My nation is modeling a transition from current Red China to a Nordic "utopia" (yes I know the caveats).As a mixed race Taiwanese with both independence and unionist friends, Taiwan is the death of Chinese civilization.The Chinese saying goes, don't cut off your hand to serve it on a platter (smart someone will figure out what policy I alluded to.)Next up will be the drug offenses, boy I can't wait, Taiwan. Currently policy= just like Japan, Singapore etc.We like our voters sober, unless you're a certain prolegalization party.

S__ ed to start in preschool with bland explanations with biological charts etc, not fun games.Start time=like Nordics etc to prevent (I probably shouldn't share this screenshot but sorry for offense) Texas Christian conservatives online posting "tampons are the bullets of Satan, if you use them you go to hell."And that's why we legalize...!
+If Hong Kong actually starts pays taxes to Peiping (北平), there'll be room for a tax cut-not like we shouldn't start cutting now. It' the opposite of 1776."No representation without taxation."Paying taxes is the responsibility of every citizen, you know, unless you're one of Ms Tsai's cronies..oh well, the "typical" corruption scandal happened.They're always like this, the "do you love Taiwan" people, what with the last president's stolen money funneled into Swiss bank accounts and his son's p__titutes, etc. There is a country with 0% taxes that conservatives would love if they weren't racist. Reaganomics works! Anyways, Founding Father Sun said there are 3 stages.China was almost ready in 1947 but Truman...you know how America is with Latin America, let's not name the names, shall we?

Shoot, I actually forgot what I was going to say, below.But frankly.Hong Kong, if you're listening*(Trump ref), never emulate Taiwan, a nation now mired in feudal superstition and dabbling with magic.You'll find out the hard way soon-your paycheck or the s__ toys in your kid's 1st grade classrooms (yes that happened), just as we did.This country is beyond saving, what with the constant physical brawls in the Legis.Yuan as opposed to-actual labor. Ancient wizards constantly contravening our referendums:I don't care what the unelected corrupt political hack/apptd for life wizard in black robes does, it's we the people, not I the people.(We don't have judicial elections like USA.)If the people vote in favor by more than 2/3rds, you obey, cough*certain party name.* Multiple referendums, we wait in HOURS until after the polls close to vote in them/for mayor.Then this poorly organized voting setup/also "releasing results early" nonsense happens.Hey wizards, We have jobs, you know.Reducing the teaching of Classical Chinese, I'm sorry.Taiwanese authors don't cut it, now just wait until the latest superstitious fluff "book" from that internet celebrity 鍾明軒 (Chung Ming-Hsuan), the one who mocked anyone who disapproved of his...unconventional outfit/got invited to the President's office, comes out, and our literature is gone.We are the 2/3rds of this country, you sorcerers!

Not to mention the threatening of underage children by teachers for political disagreements with weekly after school detentions for the rest of the year (via social media chat app)for stating a disagreements on their personal social media.Wow.So much freedom of speech.Let's not the forget the time a s__ toy was put on large TV screen in front of the president's office, and there were 3-4 year olds present (pictures as proof.)It's all over social media like instagram.The shameless dared smile in the picture. Let's not forget colored tape to scantily cover certain body parts (also on social media) or topless uh...(facebook)There are also pictures of people running around naked at that event, and American tourists doing likewise.Politicial activists, clad in only underwear, surrounding a truck equipped w bullhorns and slogans. Yeehaw missionaries.Let's not forget the time white expats waved proSocialist and homosexual banners at a T'aipei political parade with local progressives and the journalists trumpeted it, what,are we Communist? I saw the same in Korea,the European embassies showing up at the parade.This is not their country; they should have their visas revoked.Anyways.I can't have my kids around nude Protestant Christian magicians at the president's office in broad daylight, you know.Do we even have a president at this point.We are the disgrace of Asia.Above reasons=That's why I'm emigrating to Canada.Fresh, nonpolluted air, a decent wage without working to death overtime.Even the Ivy League degree doesn't help with having to work until midnight everyday come fiscal year end. Who cares about the social issues, Saint America's chief wizardress/missionary of the wondrous art of Western Religion,Jasmin Puar'll have her way.I mean even if the kids are taught nonsense, I won't die of a heart attack at the office. Let's not forget the incumbent's botched labor reform.The academic system is too pressurized anyway+careerwise, a Western, English education is better.The English language preschool/Canadian tutor is expensive enough.The only upside-we have singlepayer healthcare-so good emigrants fly back home for treatment. But Canada has that and a lot more.The public transit in Taiwan shuts down at midnight sharp.I miss Toronto... but even though I know I'll feel homesick, my children have to eat.Oh, how I love Taiwanese democracy.

[Bombadil]

You guys know nothing, the West is degenerate, China is magnificent and, with that said, I'm off to emigrate to Canada..

..at least that's what I got from the above.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

It's the other way around; please don't put words in my mouth.We have to be like a Northern European country, ideally, as mentioned by the Ivy League Chinese above.You don't live the nightmare that is here. Hell, if you're interested in movies, watch this bestselling Taiwanese movie: 我的少女時代, you'll understand just how bad it is once it's visualized.Ironically,most of the sales actually came from Mainland China.Why on earth would you live your life like the protagonist or her coworkers at the opening scene?That's everyday real life here.Look at the low birth rate,the emigration etc.Millions of 「臺商」who vote unionist emigrated already.If you want a career, well even the liberal Sunflower movement leaders who made antiChina statements went there anyways.Hypocrites.


No one cares about how silly the wizards of the West or the East wish, because in the end, the house always wins.Taiwan's already lost freedom of speech and the right to vote, what with the school sanctioned harassment of underaged children for different political views.And I thought heretical Communist China was supposed to be scary?Let's not mention what happened in front of the presidential palace, see my prev post above.It's all over social media.Add on the paycheck and labor law reform which was botched by the incumbents.The foreign interference etc, oh boy, don't be a hypocrite here.We'll have to do what the wizards say, and we have no voice. What with the enforced censorship (you are legally liable), I don't feel very "free" right now.In that case, I'll choose to have decent working conditions and a nonstagnant wage (the economy's been down the gutter ever since 1990s democracy.We've fallen behind Korea, etc, which originally was behind us.) Nonpolluted air, better schools. Thanks. Millions have already voted with their feet. "Banning all the nuclear power plants" was an astounding mistake that led to blackouts.And they ignored our votes on that one too.We're in favor, we want to cut our power bills.Do we look rich?I bet Americans are.Pompeo's harpist dinners aren't free you know (check the recent news.)

[Bombadil]

It's the other way around; please don't put words in my mouth.We have to be like a Northern European country, ideally, as mentioned by the Ivy League Chinese above.You don't live the nightmare that is here. Hell, if you're interested in movies, watch this bestselling Taiwanese movie: 我的少女時代, you'll understand just how bad it is once it's visualized.Ironically,most of the sales actually came from Mainland China.Why on earth would you live your life like the protagonist or her coworkers at the opening scene?That's everyday real life here.

No one cares about how silly the wizards of the West or the East wish, because in the end, the house always wins.Taiwan's already lost freedom of speech and the right to vote, what with the school sanctioned harassment of underaged children for different political views.And I thought heretical Communist China was supposed to be scary?Let's not mention what happened in front of the presidential palace, see my prev post above.It's all over social media.Add on the paycheck and labor law reform which was botched by the incumbents.The foreign interference etc, oh boy, don't be a hypocrite here.We'll have to do what the wizards say, and we have no voice. What with the enforced censorship (you are legally liable), I don't feel very "free" right now.In that case, I'll choose to have decent working conditions and a nonstagnant wage (the economy's been down the gutter ever since 1990s democracy.We've fallen behind Korea, etc, which originally was behind us.) Nonpolluted air, better schools. Thanks. "Banning all the nuclear power plants" was an astounding mistake that led to blackouts.And they ignored our votes on that one too.We're in favor, we want to cut our power bills.Do we look rich?I bet Americans are.Pompeo's harpist dinners aren't free you know (check the recent news.)

Whatever Taiwan might be - and without you linking to actual references to what you're talking about it's hard to tell what you're talking about - it's still a damn sight better and on a better path to progress than China, which is going directly the other way.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

It's the other way around; please don't put words in my mouth.We have to be like a Northern European country, ideally, as mentioned by the Ivy League Chinese above.You don't live the nightmare that is here. Hell, if you're interested in movies, watch this bestselling Taiwanese movie: 我的少女時代, you'll understand just how bad it is once it's visualized.Ironically,most of the sales actually came from Mainland China.Why on earth would you live your life like the protagonist or her coworkers at the opening scene?That's everyday real life here.

No one cares about how silly the wizards of the West or the East wish, because in the end, the house always wins.Taiwan's already lost freedom of speech and the right to vote, what with the school sanctioned harassment of underaged children for different political views.And I thought heretical Communist China was supposed to be scary?Let's not mention what happened in front of the presidential palace, see my prev post above.It's all over social media.Add on the paycheck and labor law reform which was botched by the incumbents.The foreign interference etc, oh boy, don't be a hypocrite here.We'll have to do what the wizards say, and we have no voice. What with the enforced censorship (you are legally liable), I don't feel very "free" right now.In that case, I'll choose to have decent working conditions and a nonstagnant wage (the economy's been down the gutter ever since 1990s democracy.We've fallen behind Korea, etc, which originally was behind us.) Nonpolluted air, better schools. Thanks. "Banning all the nuclear power plants" was an astounding mistake that led to blackouts.And they ignored our votes on that one too.We're in favor, we want to cut our power bills.Do we look rich?I bet Americans are.Pompeo's harpist dinners aren't free you know (check the recent news.)

Whatever Taiwan might be - and without you linking to actual references to what you're talking about it's hard to tell what you're talking about - it's still a damn sight better and on a better path to progress than China, which is going directly the other way.

Again, you can look up the birth rate, the referendums, economic analysis, etc, all in English.The Western media already trumpeted some of the salacious stuff.There's no use sharing if you're going to rely on wikipedia and engage in confirmation bias, your enlightened holiness. What with wikipedia's first page on Schmitt claiming Hayek and Zizek are influenced by Schmitt, and only the editor who started the page, merely one editor, on Mr Chiang's page doing the translating for 2 years straight (Chinese proverb:one man as source=false), let's move on to more fruitful discussion. . I don't know, you could check Chinese language wikipedia if you're that lazy, even though it's better to read reputable new sources from both sides like UDN, Liberty Times (see, I'm fair, I cited a deep green aka proindependence, liberal source.The other is pretty milquetoast "mainstream media" which trump hates), SETN, etc.It's all there if you use what Western missionaries claim God gave us Don't bother with the English media, that's regurgitated through a filter.The differences between English and Chinese wikipedia are night and day regarding coverage of Taiwan, esp politics.Let's not forget Baidu.Of course it'd be nice if we had a government that actually quit the culture war for once.We have to eat, you know. People vote with their feet, it's shocking you see.Even the Presidents/pres candidates among other notable politicians have foreign passports.Don't get started on that infamous president's Swiss bank accounts, that's why X ended up in jail.It's all public information.What are they,stupid?

[Bombadil]

Whatever Taiwan might be - and without you linking to actual references to what you're talking about it's hard to tell what you're talking about - it's still a damn sight better and on a better path to progress than China, which is going directly the other way.

Again, you can look up the birth rate, the referendums, economic analysis, etc, all in English.The Western media already trumpeted some of the salacious stuff.There's no use sharing if you're going to rely on wikipedia and engage in confirmation bias, your enlightened holiness. What with wikipedia's first page on Schmitt claiming Hayek and Zizek are influenced by Schmitt, and only one editor on Mr Chiang's page (Chinese proverb:one man as source=false), let's move on to more fruitful discussion. . I don't know, you could check Chinese language wikipedia if you're that lazy, even though it's better to read reputable new sources from both sides like UDN, Liberty Times (see, I'm fair, I cited a deep green aka proindependence, liberal source.The other is pretty milquetoast "mainstream media" which trump hates), SETN, etc.It's all there if you use what Western missionaries claim God gave us Don't bother with the English media, that's regurgitated through a filter.The differences between English and Chinese wikipedia are night and day regarding coverage of Taiwan, esp politics.Let's not forget Baidu.Of course it'd be nice if we had a government that actually quit the culture war for once.We have to eat, you know. People vote with their feet, it's shocking you see.Even the Presidents/pres candidates among other notable politicians have foreign passports.It's all public information.What are they,stupid?

Yeah, well the most pro-Beijing activist in Taiwan, Chang An-le, is a former Triad head who spent time in jail for drug trafficking and that's all you need to know about Beijing's influence in Taiwan, much like Junius Ho in HK, another triad-affiliated turd, when Beijing wants to send a message with a little violence they've long used the triads.

So.. whatever your view on Taiwan, it is still, by a long way, a damn sight better than China.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

Again, you can look up the birth rate, the referendums, economic analysis, etc, all in English.The Western media already trumpeted some of the salacious stuff.There's no use sharing if you're going to rely on wikipedia and engage in confirmation bias, your enlightened holiness. What with wikipedia's first page on Schmitt claiming Hayek and Zizek are influenced by Schmitt, and only one editor on Mr Chiang's page (Chinese proverb:one man as source=false), let's move on to more fruitful discussion. . I don't know, you could check Chinese language wikipedia if you're that lazy, even though it's better to read reputable new sources from both sides like UDN, Liberty Times (see, I'm fair, I cited a deep green aka proindependence, liberal source.The other is pretty milquetoast "mainstream media" which trump hates), SETN, etc.It's all there if you use what Western missionaries claim God gave us Don't bother with the English media, that's regurgitated through a filter.The differences between English and Chinese wikipedia are night and day regarding coverage of Taiwan, esp politics.Let's not forget Baidu.Of course it'd be nice if we had a government that actually quit the culture war for once.We have to eat, you know. People vote with their feet, it's shocking you see.Even the Presidents/pres candidates among other notable politicians have foreign passports.It's all public information.What are they,stupid?

Yeah, well the most pro-Beijing activist in Taiwan, Chang An-lo, is a former Triad head who spent time in jail for drug trafficking and that's all you need to know about Beijing's influence in Taiwan, much like Junius Ho in HK, another triad-affiliated turd, when Beijing wants to send a message with a little violence they've long used the triads.

So.. whatever your view on Taiwan, it is still, by a long way, a damn sight better than China.

Huh?What world do you live in?

We can spot a mainlander online rather easily haha.We don't even use the same phrases.They've flooded onto Taiwanese social media before.Not to mention the infamous twitter showdown over that Thai actor recently, journalists covered it.They have as much influence as the tinted van with the Red Chinese flag driving loops around downtown T'aipei-none.I mean, ask anyone off the street, are we Red Chinese?No.Taiwan is often shorthand for saying not Communist.It doesn't mean indpendence or anything.I say I'm Taiwanese abroad 1.It's like saying I'm from Ontario.I am mixed race Taiwanese, so of course I say I'm from Taiwan province.Of course I love Taiwan, that's where I'm from, duh, why wouldn't I. and 2.because almost no one's heard of the RoC. Doesn't indicate my political orientation.

Speaking of that, my conservative friends complain that I'm a social justice warrior, while my liberal friends complain that I'm too conservative. Watch the first min.that min=my exact political belief: https://youtu.be/5gYo08kzfro?t=698 This comedian, who interviewed the 2020 presidential candidate studied neuroscience at University of London/the Sorbonne.Again, exactly one minute. Also, please don't take offense but don't be hypocritical.Trump's in cahoots with the Mafia (WaPo, Newsweek,politico covered it), etc.Forbes has good articles detailing every silly scheme of his.I don't have to mention the Clinton controversies?Or Blackwater?Almost every USA president for the past few years has had some sort of major financial scandal, what with Trump not paying the security bills of his rallies and scamming a children's cancer charity while insulting a recently widowed soldier's wife over the phone(Niger,CNN), he makes gangsters look harmless.Don't get started on Tammany Hall.It's ironic how the most corrupt (Swiss bank accounts, etc) were ironically Taiwanese independence politicians.Don't forget the time President Swiss bank account was shot just before the media blackout for the election (voting.)The assassin... Or the time a president's wife flew to New York with bags full of stolen cash.Hilarious.The house always wins.As bestselling Mandopop artist Wang Leehom said in one of his famous songs, work hard and don't be political.

Frankly, I'm more afraid of your American expats who showed up at a parade with local progressives, marching with proSocialist banners (Social Democracy being one of the saner banners)and other far left pet causes in T'aipei. We have an actual social democracy party now, and I couldn't care less, but actual socialism?The media covered it, don't worry.Let's not forget the debacle, documented on social media , that Americans pulled off in front of the president's office.Korea's far worse in this regard with the European embassies publically/proudly meddling.Let's not name the names, it's shameful enough.You wouldn't like it if it were the other way around?

[Bombadil]

Yeah, well the most pro-Beijing activist in Taiwan, Chang An-lo, is a former Triad head who spent time in jail for drug trafficking and that's all you need to know about Beijing's influence in Taiwan, much like Junius Ho in HK, another triad-affiliated turd, when Beijing wants to send a message with a little violence they've long used the triads.

So.. whatever your view on Taiwan, it is still, by a long way, a damn sight better than China.

Huh?What world do you live in?

We can spot a mainlander online rather easily haha.We don't even use the same phrases.They've flooded onto Taiwanese social media before.Not to mention the infamous twitter showdown over that Thai actor recently, journalists covered it.They have as much influence as the tinted van with the Red Chinese flag driving loops around downtown T'aipei-none.I mean, ask anyone off the street, are we Red Chinese?No.Taiwan is often shorthand for saying not Communist.It doesn't mean indpendence or anything.I say I'm Taiwanese abroad 1.It's like saying I'm from Ontario.I am mixed race Taiwanese, so of course I say I'm from Taiwan province.Of course I love Taiwan, that's where I'm from, duh, why wouldn't I. and 2.because almost no one's heard of the RoC. Doesn't indicate my political orientation.

Speaking of that, my conservative friends complain that I'm a social justice warrior, while my liberal friends complain that I'm too conservative. Also, please don't take offense but don't be hypocritical.Trump's in cahoots with the Mafia (WaPo, Newsweek,politico covered it), etc.Forbes has good articles detailing every silly scheme of his.I don't have to mention the Clinton controversies?Or Blackwater?Almost every USA president for the past few years has had some sort of major financial scandal, what with Trump not paying the security bills of his rallies and scamming a children's cancer charity while insulting a recently widowed soldier's wife over the phone(Niger,CNN), he makes gangsters look harmless.Don't get started on Tammany Hall.It's ironic how the most corrupt (Swiss bank accounts, etc) were ironically Taiwanese independence politicians.Don't forget the time President Swiss bank account was shot just before the media blackout for the election (voting.)The assassin... Or the time a president's wife flew to New York with bags full of stolen cash.Hilarious.The house always wins.As bestselling Mandopop artist Wang Leehom said in one of his famous songs, work hard and don't be political.

Frankly, I'm more afraid of your American expats who showed up at a parade with local progressives, marching with proSocialist banners (Social Democracy being one of the saner banners)and other far left pet causes in T'aipei.We have an actual social democracy party now, and I couldn't care less, but actual socialism?The media covered it, don't worry.Let's not forget the debacle, documented on social media , that Americans pulled off in front of the president's office.Korea's far worse in this regard with the European embassies publically/proudly meddling.Let's not name the names, it's shameful enough.You wouldn't like it if it were the other way around?

I'm in HK actually..

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

Huh?What world do you live in?

We can spot a mainlander online rather easily haha.We don't even use the same phrases.They've flooded onto Taiwanese social media before.Not to mention the infamous twitter showdown over that Thai actor recently, journalists covered it.They have as much influence as the tinted van with the Red Chinese flag driving loops around downtown T'aipei-none.I mean, ask anyone off the street, are we Red Chinese?No.Taiwan is often shorthand for saying not Communist.It doesn't mean indpendence or anything.I say I'm Taiwanese abroad 1.It's like saying I'm from Ontario.I am mixed race Taiwanese, so of course I say I'm from Taiwan province.Of course I love Taiwan, that's where I'm from, duh, why wouldn't I. and 2.because almost no one's heard of the RoC. Doesn't indicate my political orientation.

Speaking of that, my conservative friends complain that I'm a social justice warrior, while my liberal friends complain that I'm too conservative. Also, please don't take offense but don't be hypocritical.Trump's in cahoots with the Mafia (WaPo, Newsweek,politico covered it), etc.Forbes has good articles detailing every silly scheme of his.I don't have to mention the Clinton controversies?Or Blackwater?Almost every USA president for the past few years has had some sort of major financial scandal, what with Trump not paying the security bills of his rallies and scamming a children's cancer charity while insulting a recently widowed soldier's wife over the phone(Niger,CNN), he makes gangsters look harmless.Don't get started on Tammany Hall.It's ironic how the most corrupt (Swiss bank accounts, etc) were ironically Taiwanese independence politicians.Don't forget the time President Swiss bank account was shot just before the media blackout for the election (voting.)The assassin... Or the time a president's wife flew to New York with bags full of stolen cash.Hilarious.The house always wins.As bestselling Mandopop artist Wang Leehom said in one of his famous songs, work hard and don't be political.

Frankly, I'm more afraid of your American expats who showed up at a parade with local progressives, marching with proSocialist banners (Social Democracy being one of the saner banners)and other far left pet causes in T'aipei.We have an actual social democracy party now, and I couldn't care less, but actual socialism?The media covered it, don't worry.Let's not forget the debacle, documented on social media , that Americans pulled off in front of the president's office.Korea's far worse in this regard with the European embassies publically/proudly meddling.Let's not name the names, it's shameful enough.You wouldn't like it if it were the other way around?

I'm in HK actually..

Again.I'm closest to the 1st minute of famous Taiwanese comedian, Mr. Sorbonne graduate in the video above in terms of political views, just so you know where I'm coming from (my context).Sorry if you're offended.I've talked to Hong Kongners before on politics.Some tried emigrating here or considered.They'll see if they will, if the surging power bill or the ensuing, infamous blackouts in the big cities after Tsai banned nuclear power despite our referendum results to the contrary gets to them first.Truly, we have descended into a 3rd world country.What 1st world country has self induced blackouts in major cities, while trying to virtual signal about "saving the environment."This country has insane garbage sorting rules, we are very green, you know.They call it OCD in the West.

Anyways.Since you're a HKer, I'll assume you know Chinese/the context of what I'll say next:「信則有不信則無。」And that's how Kinmenese display flags of the RoC/Red China.How we reconcile seemingly irreconciliable differences throughout our history.I don't recognize Red China, by the way.Notice which 3 letters I haven't placed next to each other so far?The capital is Nanking, not Peiping or T'aipei.A fair enough compromise.And that's how you know I'm a patriot to my bones

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

Youtube videos produced in a shed by "Sorbonne" "Graduates" mean nothing. Also you should check out the charming discussion we had in this thread series on PRC'ian "police" arbitrarily beating people to death because sheer keks.

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

Youtube videos produced in a shed by "Sorbonne" "Graduates" mean nothing. Also you should check out the charming discussion we had in this thread series on PRC'ian "police" arbitrarily beating people to death because sheer keks.

You can look up his degrees on Chinese wikipedia or in the English media, you don't have anything close so you're one to talk?No offense.

As for the police and other supernatural claims, I will address that as well as the others later.You think I don't know? I'm already translating a 20,000 word essay by Mr Chiang the Nazi Foucault sorcerer with the RoC ministry of education's official bilingual dictionary which I linked to previously.Can't use the heretical Red dictionaries, what with this ongoing McCarthyist witch hunt.Don't worry too much about feudal superstition. I derive great entertainment from reading such nonsense.

[Austria-Bohemia-Hungary]

You know degrees can be bought in PRC and that a 240p video on youtube approved by the MSS can be shot with your own phone right?

[Kbrandtucogoughcf]

You know degrees can be bought in PRC and that a 240p video on youtube approved by the MSS can be shot with your own phone right?

Oh.My.God.I am losing brain cells, no offense, so please don't be offended.I love this McCarthyist witch hunt.Guys, don't worry too much about feudal superstition. I derive great entertainment from reading such nonsense.Your inquiries RE: degrees can be resolved with a swift search on English language media or Chinese wikipedia since you guys seem to love wikis.Not just the Sorbonne.He basically did double major of neuroscience/biology at Sorbonne AND University of London.This is like the KMT questioning Tsai's college degrees, but reversed. Or Trump asking about "Hillary's mythical emails."Now,I don't know about Hungary(your flag) but Taiwan's one of the most educated/wealthiest+the entertainment capital of Asia, right up there with Korea and Japan.What, are we not capable?They translate our songs into Thai, Vietnamnese, etc.Of course we would produce such people.


Uhh, I literally just said he's Taiwanese?That means RoC.He's a green, aka Taiwanese independence supporter who scathingly mocked the blue (conservative) presidential candidate, Mr.Han, when interviewing him on his show. That's about as unRed China as you can get. 2nd, he interviewed both 2020 Taiwanese presidential candidates Tsai Ing-Wen (liberal) and Han (conservative)live with millenial audiences.It's like SNL interviewing Clinton AND Trump live.He's already a Taiwanese political rock star.This statement speak volumes about your lack of cognizance regarding Taiwanese politics more than anything,so I suggest the aforementioned liberal and conservative sources to familiarize yourself.You're completely out of your depth.

Anyways, that one minute up there was amazing.I've noticed that Western comedians have a hard time impersonating "the other side."Anyways, if he's Red Chinese, so what?Don't judge labels.Even if he did belong to your heretical ideology. People are more than ideologies, you know.You might date one some day if you look up from your screen?No offense, it's a bad joke that's also reality.Sometimes, biological instincts conflict with political views, you know.There are many such divided families here.Yet they're still families.

[Bombadil]

I'm in HK actually..

Again.I'm closest to the 1st minute of famous Taiwanese comedian, Mr. Sorbonne graduate in the video above in terms of political views, just so you know where I'm coming from (my context).Sorry if you're offended.I've talked to Hong Kongners before on politics.Some tried emigrating here or considered.They'll see if they will, if the surging power bill or the ensuing, infamous blackouts in the big cities after Tsai banned nuclear power despite our referendum results to the contrary gets to them first.Truly, we have descended into a 3rd world country.What 1st world country has self induced blackouts in major cities, while trying to virtual signal about "saving the environment."This country has insane garbage sorting rules, we are very green, you know.They call it OCD in the West.

Anyways.Since you're a HKer, I'll assume you know Chinese/the context of what I'll say next:「信則有不信則無。」And that's how Kinmenese display flags of the RoC/Red China.How we reconcile seemingly irreconciliable differences throughout our history.I don't recognize Red China, by the way.Notice which 3 letters I haven't placed next to each other so far?The capital is Nanking, not Peiping or T'aipei.A fair enough compromise.And that's how you know I'm a patriot to my bones

I get it, you’re a hardcore KMT supporter regardless of the fact they’ve thrown their lot wholesale behind the CCP but, believe it or not, forget about KMT or DPP and ask yourself if you want to be ruled by the CCP because, if not, you can choose to support and influence the DDP to policies you prefer or emigrate.. and I suppose you’ve chosen to emigrate.

Everything must be done to halt the pernicious influence of the CCP under Xi Jinping - you can run and hide or stand for independence of your values that you help to choose, forget about US ‘influence’ because most of those I know in HK and Taiwan can think for themselves, and CCP rule is the complete opposite to our free right to think. A flag has more rights than me as of last week.

So run away if you want, if you think support for the KMT is more important than your country, because that’s the CCP ideology, the party is more important than the people.

[Novus America]

I have no ideas what is going on here, but it appears off topic. Sure Taiwan or the ROC is not perfect, and there are problems but it is still better than being under Xi’s boot and bombs.