I can’t believe Greta Thunberg won the person of the year

[Vassenor]

We all realise that Person of the Year is a single magazine's editorial board recognising that someone was in the news a lot in the past year, and publicised in order to sell more copies of said magazine, right? It carries little in the way of the moral weight of a Nobel award, and the same recognition has previously been given to Hitler and Stalin on the basis of their undeniable impact at the time without implying an endorsement of either.

By getting this worked up about it, you are only helping create publicity for Time magazine and Ms Thunberg. Job done from Time's perspective, I would think.

Well yeah, the magazine exactly wants these kinds of conversations. That’s not bad though

I don’t support them choosing her but it doesn’t make it a bad thing to create publicity in the way of showing how hypocritical Greta is. Creating publicity for TIME is fine, as long as I’m able to introduce other viewpoints to he conversations. That’s how I think at least

And she's hypocritical how?

And don't just hide behind the "and yet you participate in society" shit.

[Antityranicals]

Ah. My mistake. I get all of those big New York traditional center-left publications mixed up...

Once again, you must be pretty damn sheltered. These people aren't anywhere close to left.

One can be left without being straight socialist.

[Hong Kong People]

I'll bet that the damn UN will take up any leftist cause someone yells towards it. Thank God it doesn't actually have any power.

Not the UN itself, the world leaders who attend speeches there.

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Well, let's see how the yelling can make China, the biggest polluter in the world , make changes in its climate policies.

Yelling at China probably wouldn't make any difference. China is a dictatorship, they're largely immune to public outrage. Democratic nations, not so much. Democratically elected leaders can, to varying degrees, be shamed and pressured into taking action on the environment.

But Democratic countries are ALREADY REDUCING their carbon emissions.On the other hand, it's totalitarian or developing countries like China that are increasing their emissions.So you are completely fine that democratic countries bear a greater responsibility than China when it comes to reducing carbon emission?If we don't tackle the problem of China , there is no way that climate change can be resolved. And I don't see how the current approach adopted by Greta helps solve the problem anyway.

[Magnum Exitium]

I fail to see your point. How about you try to make a legit argument.

Oh it's a perfectly legit argument

It doesn't address my point in any way, you just C&Ped my sig

[Juristonia]

I can at the very least sympathise with Chokoku on this issue, because they have made a good point.

Greta Thunberg is just not the right person to lead this crusade against climate change exactly due to her incompetence and complete irrelevance.

Irrelevant people don't become the topic of this much global discussion.
You're confusing relevance with saying things you agree with.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Once again, you must be pretty damn sheltered. These people aren't anywhere close to left.

One can be left without being straight socialist.

TIME Magazine and New York Times are both right-wing, thanks for coming

[Solanos]

Once again, you must be pretty damn sheltered. These people aren't anywhere close to left.

One can be left without being straight socialist.

Which all these big, corporate publications aren't at all. Learn what neoliberalism is, you're in the perfect place for it.

[Chokoku]

I can at the very least sympathise with Chokoku on this issue, because they have made a good point.

Greta Thunberg is just not the right person to lead this crusade against climate change exactly due to her incompetence and complete irrelevance.

I get angry when I saw her twitter posts. All those well taken photos with her shaking hands and stuff. Are you a REAL activist when what you do is to make Hollywood styled red carpet photographs?

[Salus Maior]

Who cares who wins meaningless awards.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Oh it's a perfectly legit argument

It doesn't address my point in any way, you just C&Ped my sig

It does

[Antityranicals]

But she's quite frankly insignificant. Another rich leftist teen whining for the world to hear isn't news.

In your even less significant opinion.
How often have you started world wide conversations about important topics this year?

Just as often as Thunberg. Every leftist and their uncles have been yelling that the world was to end in ten years for the past fifty. She didn't start nothing.

[Solanos]

Oh it's a perfectly legit argument

It doesn't address my point in any way, you just C&Ped my sig

Ehh it's pretty funny to see people with these absurd niche idpol ideologies coming out of the woodwork.

[Solanos]

I can at the very least sympathise with Chokoku on this issue, because they have made a good point.

Greta Thunberg is just not the right person to lead this crusade against climate change exactly due to her incompetence and complete irrelevance.

I get angry when I saw her twitter posts. All those well taken photos with her shaking hands and stuff. Are you a REAL activist when what you do is to make Hollywood styled red carpet photographs?

Please tell me this is satire.

[Chokoku]

Not the UN itself, the world leaders who attend speeches there.

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Yelling at China probably wouldn't make any difference. China is a dictatorship, they're largely immune to public outrage. Democratic nations, not so much. Democratically elected leaders can, to varying degrees, be shamed and pressured into taking action on the environment.

But Democratic countries are ALREADY REDUCING their carbon emissions.On the other hand, it's totalitarian or developing countries like China that are increasing their emissions.So you are completely fine that democratic countries bear a greater responsibility than China when it comes to reducing carbon emission?If we don't tackle the problem of China , there is no way that climate change can be resolved. And I don't see how the current approach adopted by Greta helps solve the problem anyway.

Yup, and screaming on UN won’t stop China either.

China is a road blockade on everything, it blocks environmental protections of the entire world, it blocks democracy from making its way into the developing Africa.

[Antityranicals]

One can be left without being straight socialist.

Which all these big, corporate publications aren't at all. Learn what neoliberalism is, you're in the perfect place for it.

Corporations despise the free market, and have for the past 130 years.

Correction: It dates back to the early 19th century in the US, with the institution of protectionists tariffs, and further still in Britain.

[Solanos]

Which all these big, corporate publications aren't at all. Learn what neoliberalism is, you're in the perfect place for it.

Corporations despise the free market, and have for the past 130 years.

The "free" market is a myth.

[Magnum Exitium]

It doesn't address my point in any way, you just C&Ped my sig

It does

Ok.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Which all these big, corporate publications aren't at all. Learn what neoliberalism is, you're in the perfect place for it.

Corporations despise the free market, and have for the past 130 years.

really! 'cause you seem to love them and "unrestrained capitalism", don't you

[Munkcestrian Republic]

It does

Ok.

glad that we can agree on something!

[Juristonia]

In your even less significant opinion.
How often have you started world wide conversations about important topics this year?

Just as often as Thunberg. Every leftist and their uncles have been yelling that the world was to end in ten years for the past fifty. She didn't start nothing.

You didn't answer, so I'll answer for you.

Literally never.
You have never had this much global impact, in your life.
Neither have I, or anyone else on here.

Your own beliefs are not a guideline for whether or not something is relevant globally.

[Chokoku]

I get angry when I saw her twitter posts. All those well taken photos with her shaking hands and stuff. Are you a REAL activist when what you do is to make Hollywood styled red carpet photographs?

Please tell me this is satire.

So you’re telling me her stupid handshake photos aren’t stunts? Wow so ‘natural’. Should we praise her for stunting the public and being the Logan Paul of the environment?

[Antityranicals]

Corporations despise the free market, and have for the past 130 years.

The "free" market is a myth.

It sadly doesn't exist, if that's what you mean. But it ought to...

[Antityranicals]

Just as often as Thunberg. Every leftist and their uncles have been yelling that the world was to end in ten years for the past fifty. She didn't start nothing.

You didn't answer, so I'll answer for you.

Literally never.
You have never had this much global impact, in your life.
Neither have I, or anyone else on here.

Your own beliefs are not a guideline for whether or not something is relevant globally.

I did answer. I said just as much as Thunberg. In other words, never.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Please tell me this is satire.

So you’re telling me her stupid handshake photos aren’t stunts? Wow so ‘natural’. Should we praise her for stunting the public and being the Logan Paul of the environment?

greta thunberg wearing an alien hat vlogging in suicide forest??

[Solanos]

Please tell me this is satire.

So you’re telling me her stupid handshake photos aren’t stunts? Wow so ‘natural’. Should we praise her for stunting the public and being the Logan Paul of the environment?

No, it's just pointless social media drivel that she has no control over. I doubt she's entirely a fan of "stunt" photos either but it's really just press taking annoying pictures. It's not all just like The West Wing. Actually it's nothing like The West Wing. Is this seriously the hill you want to die on? Hand shaking? I guess it's a natural evolution from "Obama sucked because of tan suits and latte salutes".