I can’t believe Greta Thunberg won the person of the year

[Chokoku]

The problem with Greta is that actual meaningful climate change activists get over-looked, and almost half of everyone watching this unfold just assumes climate change is even more of joke than they already think it is.
Memes aside: tHiS sAyS a lOt aBoUt SoCiEtY

Yeah that’s true. I guess you could say we need a environmentalist trump to counter balance actual Trump.

Dual stunts, what a sad society

[Hong Kong People]

I am fine with HKers not being selected as person of the year but I don't think Greta Thunberg deserves that title.

[Antityranicals]

Right wing conspiracy, lol wat

Apparently she undermining people being killed is a conspiracy. Apparently her playing games with fancy photos is being a true warrior of the environment, apparently driving a boat across the Atlantic while having 4 other people to retrieve it for her, through air travel, is what you do to protect the environment.

We need actual regulations on carbon emission, not fancy speeches in the UN where countries have to play games with you and pretend to actually care even tho they don’t.

Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

I'll bet that the damn UN will take up any leftist cause someone yells towards it. Thank God it doesn't actually have any power.

[Ifreann]

It's the damn New York Times. Whiny teenage idiots crying because they don't get socialism are all the rage there. Of course they want to make her seem like something more than a joke.

It's TIME Magazine, not the New York Times.

[Hong Kong People]

Right wing conspiracy, lol wat

Apparently she undermining people being killed is a conspiracy. Apparently her playing games with fancy photos is being a true warrior of the environment, apparently driving a boat across the Atlantic while having 4 other people to retrieve it for her, through air travel, is what you do to protect the environment.

We need actual regulations on carbon emission, not fancy speeches in the UN where countries have to play games with you and pretend to actually care even tho they don’t.

Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

Well, let's see how the yelling can make China, the biggest polluter in the world , make changes in its climate policies.

[Novosibirsk Titoists]

Is she really? We just made person of the year to be some annoying chinese-bought hypocrite eco-radicalist? It really shows the world that we live in

[Vassenor]

Is she really? We just made person of the year to be some annoying chinese-bought hypocrite eco-radicalist? It really shows the world that we live in

And what exactly do you suppose the criteria for the title to be?

[Solanos]

Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

I'll bet that the damn UN will take up any leftist cause someone yells towards it. Thank God it doesn't actually have any power.

I know tradcaths aren't really keen on anybody who isn't the reincarnation of Generalissimo Franco but you'd have to be mentally disabled to think the UN is even remotely leftist-friendly.

[State of Turelisa]

Why doesn't she travel on land on a horse? Compared to the automobile and train, a horse produces very little carbon.

[Chokoku]

Right wing conspiracy, lol wat

Apparently she undermining people being killed is a conspiracy. Apparently her playing games with fancy photos is being a true warrior of the environment, apparently driving a boat across the Atlantic while having 4 other people to retrieve it for her, through air travel, is what you do to protect the environment.

We need actual regulations on carbon emission, not fancy speeches in the UN where countries have to play games with you and pretend to actually care even tho they don’t.

Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

Oh lol do you really think screaming at the UN would change the politicians? Oh genius so politicians now do that?

No! They put out these policies so they could appeal to voters. Remember politicians work for votes, not for actual ‘kind-hearted-ness’. Politics isn’t this fancy place where you could ‘change the world’, they only put these policies out cuz the GENERAL populace pushes them to. It’s sad, but it’s true. Screaming in UN does nothing other than adding fake to Greta herself.

[Novosibirsk Titoists]

Is she really? We just made person of the year to be some annoying chinese-bought hypocrite eco-radicalist? It really shows the world that we live in

And what exactly do you suppose the criteria for the title to be?

To award person that actually made something important, not just whined about how bad US is

[Solanos]

And what exactly do you suppose the criteria for the title to be?

To award person that actually made something important, not just whined about how bad US is

I mean the US is pretty bad at human rights...

[Chokoku]

I am fine with HKers not being selected as person of the year but I don't think Greta Thunberg deserves that title.

Exactly. I could understand why Hong Kongers don’t win. We got other great people, Pete Buttigueg, the Ethiopian prime minister. BUT NOT GRETA FREAKING THUNBERG

[Ifreann]

Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

I'll bet that the damn UN will take up any leftist cause someone yells towards it. Thank God it doesn't actually have any power.

Not the UN itself, the world leaders who attend speeches there.

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Where do you think regulations come from? The people who go to listen to speeches at the UN write them. Thunberg yelling at world leaders to get their shit together is far more likely to make a difference than what mode of transport she uses.

Well, let's see how the yelling can make China, the biggest polluter in the world , make changes in its climate policies.

Yelling at China probably wouldn't make any difference. China is a dictatorship, they're largely immune to public outrage. Democratic nations, not so much. Democratically elected leaders can, to varying degrees, be shamed and pressured into taking action on the environment.

[Chokoku]

To award person that actually made something important, not just whined about how bad US is

I mean the US is pretty bad at human rights...

Hey at least you don’t ‘disappear’ out of thin air

[Solanos]

I am fine with HKers not being selected as person of the year but I don't think Greta Thunberg deserves that title.

Exactly. I could understand why Hong Kongers don’t win. We got other great people, Pete Buttigueg, the Ethiopian prime minister. BUT NOT GRETA FREAKING THUNBERG

Pete Buttigieg, are you fucking kidding me? He's done even less. Besides, you know, being a McKinsey stooge, doing "economic stabilization" in Iraq, working for big pharma and generally being a power-mad lunatic.

[Novosibirsk Titoists]

To award person that actually made something important, not just whined about how bad US is

I mean the US is pretty bad at human rights...

We know but their carbon emission are one of the lowest as I know

[Solanos]

I mean the US is pretty bad at human rights...

Hey at least you don’t ‘disappear’ out of thin air

Nah you just get shot by the cops and people consider it justified.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Don’t get me wrong, I’m an environmentalist. You really need to care about the environment, but definitely not by being a drama queen.

Greta Thunburg is a drama queen. Her parents are actors, and she planned everything out. She condemned Sweden, the greenest countries in the world that aims to reach carbon neutral soon, for not doing enough but is somehow completely fine with China polluting. Why don’t you go cry at Tiananmen? You scared?

What a hypocritical drama queen. Pretends to be a brace hero against governments, but a coward inside. Sure let’s see what she could make up to explain that. ‘How dare you’

She did nothing, I repeat, nothing, to help the environment. She is trying to draw attention and build a hero style thing for herself, how pathetic is that.

Remember how she went hyper-cool mode by going to New York on a boat, heck look at all the people who served her on the trip. Of course they called themselves fellow environmentalists even though they’re just servants. Somehow having servants to serve her is fine but taking a plane isn’t, cool now we got publicity stunts from her.

She deserves no awards, and definitely no congratulations. To save the environment we don’t need publicity queens like her, we need genuine people trying to take small steps to save the world.

Oh and look, an article from online:
Are you fecking kidding me

Look, I'm not mad that we (Hong Kongers) aren't the Person of the Year. I'm mad that Greta Thunberg is the winner.

She's a god damn hypocrite. She did a "zero carbon trip" across the Atlantic with small boat that generates energy for the voyage. But each time it goes to US and UK, two crewmembers will have to fly to the respective locations to retrieve it. Which means four men will have to use the airplane, while if she just took the plane herself with his dad only two will have to ride the plane. Four people using the plane (and only the plane) produces 2,134,800 grams of C02. Look who's producing emissions?

Oh, and the manufacturing of her Tesla Model 3 and her Europe train trip produces quite an amount of carbon, don't forget that 63.5% electricity is produced by fossil fuel.

She probably has less carbon emissions than most people, that's undeniable, but she doesn't deserve so much attention for screaming at politicians. Indeed, she's bringing attention to climate issues, but not everything is solvable. Imagine the socioeconomic consequences.
When she called on all countries to stop carbon emissions, did she realise how many developing countries have no way to feed their people except carbon emissions?

All I see her do is
a) Scream at lawmakers to guilt them
b) Skip planes, which is unavailable for people who have a job
c)Strike from school, unavailable to kids who actually need to learn

Is she a scientist who contributed to reducing emissions? No.
Is she some community leader? No.
She's too young and inexperienced she's born with a famous mother (opera singer) and is privileged, yet she screams "yOu rUINeD mY chILdHoOD"? HoW dArE sHE say that? hOW dArE sHE say that while millions of people are starving around the globe?

I'll credit her for her genuine beliefs on saving this planet, but instead of throwing speeches everywhere, how about actually do something? She does not deserve it.

But, if the public wishes, she shall be the person of the year. Now that's true democracy.

Oh btw, you know how she rode the train. I like trains too, it’s environmentally friendly. Oh but look at Greta Thunberg ruining it, first class, packaged plastic meals, and plenty more carbon producing stuff. Oh and you see her jeans? Those waste plenty water, why don’t you condemn yourself then Ms. Attention Seeker?

Ok here I wrap up my rant.

lol what a post

[The Archregimancy]

We all realise that Person of the Year is a single magazine's editorial board recognising that someone was in the news a lot in the past year, and publicised in order to sell more copies of said magazine, right? It carries little in the way of the moral weight of a Nobel award, and the same recognition has previously been given to Hitler and Stalin on the basis of their undeniable impact at the time without implying an endorsement of either.

By getting this worked up about it, you are only helping create publicity for Time magazine and Ms Thunberg. Job done from Time's perspective, I would think.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

I saw her post on Twitter about human rights day, she says human rights are the most challenged by climate change. Really dude? Not the thousands of people slaughtered in different massacres, not the rapes many committed, not the blinded, hurt or killed in protests of the world?

Sure climate change is severe, but by making a publicity stunt like this and undermining the lives of millions who have their actual human rights offended, it’s hard to think you are not a drama queen.

I even suspect that she said this so she could make Hong Kong protestors less significant, and allowing her to win the person of the year. Afterall the results are published just a few days after the human rights day. Look at how beautifully planned her publicity stunt is! Her singer actor mom must be proud

damn and i thought i didn't like her

[Munkcestrian Republic]

So basically you do not like her because she -rightly- pointed out that all that effort western nations claim to be making is not even a single percent of what they should be doing ?

*-10% carbon emissions for the US*
Keep telling yourself that

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[Chokoku]

I'll bet that the damn UN will take up any leftist cause someone yells towards it. Thank God it doesn't actually have any power.

Not the UN itself, the world leaders who attend speeches there.

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Well, let's see how the yelling can make China, the biggest polluter in the world , make changes in its climate policies.

Yelling at China probably wouldn't make any difference. China is a dictatorship, they're largely immune to public outrage. Democratic nations, not so much. Democratically elected leaders can, to varying degrees, be shamed and pressured into taking action on the environment.

Very true. Democratic countries, let’s use Switzerland as an example since they’re the most direct already, got their seven chancellors. When they want to push a regulation, you need public support. So Greta going to UN screaming while doing publicity stunts won’t do much really. She could’ve used that time and effort on going around putting up poster (preferably made from recycled paper) or going to the local council to attend a small meeting. Doing that at a few local councils would already do better than screaming

[Antityranicals]

It's the damn New York Times. Whiny teenage idiots crying because they don't get socialism are all the rage there. Of course they want to make her seem like something more than a joke.

It's TIME Magazine, not the New York Times.

Ah. My mistake. I get all of those big New York traditional center-left publications mixed up...

[Munkcestrian Republic]

It's the damn New York Times. Whiny teenage idiots crying because they don't get socialism are all the rage there. Of course they want to make her seem like something more than a joke.

this is going out of hand! now there's two Catholic Libertarians with awful takes