Where Should We Resettle Refugees In The US?

[San Lumen]

Why not just welcome them here? Many of them ultimately become citizens and contribute to the community.

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Yet again real easy for you to say when you haven’t faced what they have

[The Two Jerseys]

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Yet again real easy for you to say when you haven’t faced what they have

Are you through beating that dead horse yet?

[San Lumen]

Yet again real easy for you to say when you haven’t faced what they have

Are you through beating that dead horse yet?

Have you ever met a refugee?

[The Two Jerseys]

Are you through beating that dead horse yet?

Have you ever met a refugee?

Do you ever get tired of playing the Great White Savior of all the poor little brown people?

[Christian Confederation]

All the more reason to want to go back with a rifle and start slotting some oppressors.

Not everyone is born to be a soldier.

Lol everyone has the power to fight for there freedom.
Just look at the Arab Spring. Everyone got feed up and topled there doctators.
All a revolution needs is angry population and motivation.

[Czechostan]

Why not just welcome them here? Many of them ultimately become citizens and contribute to the community.

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Why would you suggest that? I highly doubt that if an immigrant came to the US from, say, Italy, for better economic opportunity, you would be deriding them for not cleaning up their own country instead.

[The Two Jerseys]

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Why would you suggest that? I highly doubt that if an immigrant came to the US from, say, Italy, for better economic opportunity, you would be deriding them for not cleaning up their own country instead.

That's not a refugee...

[San Lumen]

Have you ever met a refugee?

Do you ever get tired of playing the Great White Savior of all the poor little brown people?

What the heck are you trying to imply? Excuse me for wanting America to be a beacon of hope around the world. I do not think we should take everyone. Limits are needed.


My own great grandfather fled Romania to escape the pogroms shortly before World War One. It seems like some here wouldn’t have allows their own ancestors in

[Czechostan]

Not everyone is born to be a soldier.

Lol everyone has the power to fight for there freedom.
Just look at the Arab Spring. Everyone got feed up and topled there doctators.
All a revolution needs is angry population and motivation.

Did you miss the point wholly where Jerseys said "go back with a rifle"? I'm saying not everyone should be drafted into a militia and start violently resisting.

And regardless of the fact, not everyone is cut out to be in a revolution or even believe there's something left fighting for. Some people just need a new start in a new country.

[Kowani]

Why not just welcome them here? Many of them ultimately become citizens and contribute to the community.

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Yeah, that’s feasible.
Oh, wait. It’s not.

[Czechostan]

Why would you suggest that? I highly doubt that if an immigrant came to the US from, say, Italy, for better economic opportunity, you would be deriding them for not cleaning up their own country instead.

That's not a refugee...

But your reason for not letting refugees in applies to other immigrants. That someone ought to "clean up" his/her own country rather than leaving. So why not apply it to immigrants too?

[Bloodshade]

Lol everyone has the power to fight for there freedom.
Just look at the Arab Spring. Everyone got feed up and topled there doctators.
All a revolution needs is angry population and motivation.

Ohhh my, look how that went! I'm sure everything's picture perfect right now!

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

It'd be very hard to clean up a country being constantly bombed by the US administration or their favorite so called 'anti-oppressor' groups.

No wonder multiple US administrations are able to get away with wars or interventions around the world...

Have you read the Afghanistan papers yet?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

Wherever they want.

[The East Marches II]

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Why would you suggest that? I highly doubt that if an immigrant came to the US from, say, Italy, for better economic opportunity, you would be deriding them for not cleaning up their own country instead.

Italian immigrants have a long history of bringing crime ties with them even if they themselves aren't. Italy isn't sending it's best folks.

[GlobalControl]

In light of the capital of North Dakota, Bismark, barring new refugee arrivals in the future, a new question has come to mind; if we resettle refugees, where should we? While of course there is the argument we shouldn't resettle refugees at all, if we were to, where should we? Of course some people will point out not to at all, or to resettle them in big cities, but I personally think we should resettle them in a very unlikely state; North Carolina.

That may sound crazy; many North Carolinian's (if not most) would straight out reject that. But, here is my evidence; North Carolina had a high rate of job growth in the 2018 year, and I think many refugees would be able to resettle here. Many refugees have college educations in there home countries (though most of them are not accepted in the US), but there is a large retail industry here, which does not require a education.

What do you think NS?

No?

[The Two Jerseys]

That's not a refugee...

But your reason for not letting refugees in applies to other immigrants. That someone ought to "clean up" his/her own country rather than leaving. So why not apply it to immigrants too?

Other immigrants aren't relying on the taxpayers to support them. Other immigrants can be deported if they can't support themselves financially.

[Czechostan]

Why would you suggest that? I highly doubt that if an immigrant came to the US from, say, Italy, for better economic opportunity, you would be deriding them for not cleaning up their own country instead.

Italian immigrants have a long history of bringing crime ties with them even if they themselves aren't. Italy isn't sending it's best folks.

Look at Sacco, look at Vanzetti, look at Capone... You just can't trust these folks, believe me.

[San Lumen]

But your reason for not letting refugees in applies to other immigrants. That someone ought to "clean up" his/her own country rather than leaving. So why not apply it to immigrants too?

Other immigrants aren't relying on the taxpayers to support them. Other immigrants can be deported if they can't support themselves financially.

That is a lie, refugees don’t live off welfare and food stamps.

[Kowani]

But your reason for not letting refugees in applies to other immigrants. That someone ought to "clean up" his/her own country rather than leaving. So why not apply it to immigrants too?

Other immigrants aren't relying on the taxpayers to support them. Other immigrants can be deported if they can't support themselves financially.

They’re not, so…

[San Lumen]

Other immigrants aren't relying on the taxpayers to support them. Other immigrants can be deported if they can't support themselves financially.

They’re not, so…

A Liberian refugee defeated a long time incumbent mayor in Helena, Montana in 2017 and Is now running for Senate next year. He would the first African American nominated for statewide office in the state should he get the nomination

[Czechostan]

But your reason for not letting refugees in applies to other immigrants. That someone ought to "clean up" his/her own country rather than leaving. So why not apply it to immigrants too?

Other immigrants aren't relying on the taxpayers to support them. Other immigrants can be deported if they can't support themselves financially.

I mean, there's a lot of native born Americans relying on taxpayer support to get by, whether they're chronically employed or chronically ill. But the hope is they'll find a place within the community and start pushing forward.

And I don't understand your second point. Refugees have been deported plenty of times because their presence was deemed unwelcome.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Keep them in Wales or Ireland to increase the population of both countries.

Surprised you didn't say Japan.

[Adamantaean Magocrate]

Resettle them in evangelical parts of the US, Muslims are shown to be more tolerant than evangelicals.

[Nobel Hobos 2]

"resettlement" is a package of government services provided to refugees ... not to immigrants in general ... and would be a handy injection of federal money into the county/city economy. Counties seeing some benefit to opting out of resettlement give up the injection.

[Major-Tom]

Why not just welcome them here? Many of them ultimately become citizens and contribute to the community.

Or they could stay and clean up their own country.

Don't give us that drivel. I understand the problems associated with the refugee process, and I'll concede, they are significant. However, that does not negate the fact that many refugees are fleeing war-torn and dysfunctional societies. In such scenarios, it's impossible to stay and clean up "their own country" as you call it, when staying leaves a substantial risk of, well, quite frankly, death.

It's easy for us in a civilized and functional modern society to say "clean your own mess up," when that's not an option for many refugees. When you have a family to care for and you're under constant threat of having your house bombarded by crossfire, shrapnel and actual gunfire, you wouldn't think twice about relocating somewhere safe, somewhere where you have peace of mind.

I try to stay away from anecdotes on account of it's not empirical evidence. I really do. But a former coworker of mine who I worked with daily for months comes to mind. He came from Afghanistan and is a refugee in the United States. He works two manual labor jobs, one at my old job. If it weren't for his accent, religion and color of skin, he'd be no different than the archetypal blue-collar American who busts his ass at his laboring job before finally coming home late to his wife and kids. He, and other refugees I've worked with, are some of the hardest working motherfuckers I've ever had the pleasure of working alongside with. He was the only one who opened up. Kandahar was hell on earth for his family. The torment of knowing you could be killed at any second was too much. And he decided to apply for refugee status in Arizona.

For people like him, I'd love to see someone hear that story and say "hey, you know what man, you should've stayed home and "cleaned up your country," as if they want to call that their country in the first place. We all know the evidence behind refugee programs. It brings problems here and there, we can't deny that. We can't deny that and we can't ignore the fact that perhaps some restrictions should exist for the numbers of refugees one locale should have to take. That's fair.

But the argument I really, truly despise with every bone in my body is that people fleeing conflict should stay and fix their own mess. It's such a lazy, disaffected and disconnected response from reality and empathy as a whole.