Where Should We Resettle Refugees In The US?

[The Emerald Legion]

Make them citizens. Draft them immediately, and send them overseas as part of the American Liberation force liberating their wartorn homeland.

If we wouldn't declare war on a place, we shouldn't be accepting refugees from that place. If we would accept refugees from that place, they should be expected to contribute to the war effort to liberate their home.

The war effort is the primary cause of refugees... You even implied yourself that being wartorn was bad. How is a 'do as I say, not as I do' mentality helpful? Evacuate all non-combatants, that is a golden-rule-compliant solution.

Life must end all violence before violence ends all life.

When did I ever imply the Golden rule was anything close to my ethical foundations? In cases where existence in another country is untenable due to tyrannical regimes we should be declaring war on said regimes and ending them with violence. The very necessity to accept refugees from a place means we have already judged that country as deficient. Is it enough then to merely help those few fortunates who manage to escape? No. No it's not. If we are going to extend THESE people help, then logically we must also believe those people still IN the country are worth helping if able. And we are more than able. Therefor, any accepting of refugees must morally coincide with the immediate declaration of war upon whatever nation it is we are accepting refugees from, with the intent of establishing a constitutionally compliant republic.

Nonsense. Violence is an intrinsic part of the human condition. War is Humanity and Humanity is War. To erase one is to erase the other.

Make them citizens. Draft them immediately, and send them overseas as part of the American Liberation force liberating their wartorn homeland.

If we wouldn't declare war on a place, we shouldn't be accepting refugees from that place. If we would accept refugees from that place, they should be expected to contribute to the war effort to liberate their home.

So easy for you to say when you don’t have to worry about being persecuted for who you love, or for your religion, for political opinions, or if your region or country is embroiled in a civil war.

.... Considering I do get persecution for two of those three. Thankfully I don't love, so that one isn't a concern.

[Gim]

Midwest would be the best place, if we can't deport them to Mexico. It's the most diverse place in America full of Europeans.

[San Lumen]

The war effort is the primary cause of refugees... You even implied yourself that being wartorn was bad. How is a 'do as I say, not as I do' mentality helpful? Evacuate all non-combatants, that is a golden-rule-compliant solution.

Life must end all violence before violence ends all life.

When did I ever imply the Golden rule was anything close to my ethical foundations? In cases where existence in another country is untenable due to tyrannical regimes we should be declaring war on said regimes and ending them with violence. The very necessity to accept refugees from a place means we have already judged that country as deficient. Is it enough then to merely help those few fortunates who manage to escape? No. No it's not. If we are going to extend THESE people help, then logically we must also believe those people still IN the country are worth helping if able. And we are more than able. Therefor, any accepting of refugees must morally coincide with the immediate declaration of war upon whatever nation it is we are accepting refugees from, with the intent of establishing a constitutionally compliant republic.

Nonsense. Violence is an intrinsic part of the human condition. War is Humanity and Humanity is War. To erase one is to erase the other.

So easy for you to say when you don’t have to worry about being persecuted for who you love, or for your religion, for political opinions, or if your region or country is embroiled in a civil war.

.... Considering I do get persecution for two of those three. Thankfully I don't love, so that one isn't a concern.

How are you being persecuted that you can make the claims and proposals you are?

[Gim]

When did I ever imply the Golden rule was anything close to my ethical foundations? In cases where existence in another country is untenable due to tyrannical regimes we should be declaring war on said regimes and ending them with violence. The very necessity to accept refugees from a place means we have already judged that country as deficient. Is it enough then to merely help those few fortunates who manage to escape? No. No it's not. If we are going to extend THESE people help, then logically we must also believe those people still IN the country are worth helping if able. And we are more than able. Therefor, any accepting of refugees must morally coincide with the immediate declaration of war upon whatever nation it is we are accepting refugees from, with the intent of establishing a constitutionally compliant republic.

Nonsense. Violence is an intrinsic part of the human condition. War is Humanity and Humanity is War. To erase one is to erase the other.



.... Considering I do get persecution for two of those three. Thankfully I don't love, so that one isn't a concern.

How are you being persecuted that you can make the claims and proposals you are?

Figure of speech, I guess.

[San Lumen]

Also for the record refugees are already settled in North Carolina, although the number has been decreasing over the last three years as a result of federal policy.

They brought the number to a record low to appease their base. Some in Washington are trying to kill the refugee program entirely

[Gim]

Also for the record refugees are already settled in North Carolina, although the number has been decreasing over the last three years as a result of federal policy.

They brought the number to a record low to appease their base. Some in Washington are trying to kill the refugee program entirely

Unless presidency changes after the impeachment of Trump.

[San Lumen]

They brought the number to a record low to appease their base. Some in Washington are trying to kill the refugee program entirely

Unless presidency changes after the impeachment of Trump.

He’s not getting convicted. We have to vote him out next year If we want America to remain the shining city on the hill

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Also for the record refugees are already settled in North Carolina, although the number has been decreasing over the last three years as a result of federal policy.

Deport them to Mexico, maybe?

I'm more pointing out that this is a bit of a silly debate. The US doesn't settle refugees based on geographic lines. Nor does it deport refugees, because the idea of deporting refugees is about ten flavors of nonsensical.

[Gim]

Deport them to Mexico, maybe?

I'm more pointing out that this is a bit of a silly debate. The US doesn't settle refugees based on geographic lines. Nor does it deport refugees, because the idea of deporting refugees is about ten flavors of nonsensical.

In a more sensible perspective, the midwest as aforementioned.

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Also for the record refugees are already settled in North Carolina, although the number has been decreasing over the last three years as a result of federal policy.

They brought the number to a record low to appease their base. Some in Washington are trying to kill the refugee program entirely

The number is a record low because we are accepted record low numbers of refugees, again it's more of a federal problem. And although there are some in Washington trying to kill the program they are a fairly safe minority, at least for the time being.

[Gim]

They brought the number to a record low to appease their base. Some in Washington are trying to kill the refugee program entirely

The number is a record low because we are accepted record low numbers of refugees, again it's more of a federal problem. And although there are some in Washington trying to kill the program they are a fairly safe minority, at least for the time being.

DACA was the first step, I believe?

[The East Marches II]

When did I ever imply the Golden rule was anything close to my ethical foundations? In cases where existence in another country is untenable due to tyrannical regimes we should be declaring war on said regimes and ending them with violence. The very necessity to accept refugees from a place means we have already judged that country as deficient. Is it enough then to merely help those few fortunates who manage to escape? No. No it's not. If we are going to extend THESE people help, then logically we must also believe those people still IN the country are worth helping if able. And we are more than able. Therefor, any accepting of refugees must morally coincide with the immediate declaration of war upon whatever nation it is we are accepting refugees from, with the intent of establishing a constitutionally compliant republic.

Nonsense. Violence is an intrinsic part of the human condition. War is Humanity and Humanity is War. To erase one is to erase the other.



.... Considering I do get persecution for two of those three. Thankfully I don't love, so that one isn't a concern.

How are you being persecuted that you can make the claims and proposals you are?

Have you considered San Lumen that your moral code is neither universal nor do all people view it as ideal?

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

I'm more pointing out that this is a bit of a silly debate. The US doesn't settle refugees based on geographic lines. Nor does it deport refugees, because the idea of deporting refugees is about ten flavors of nonsensical.

In a more sensible perspective, the midwest as aforementioned.

Why any one region? Why not literally across the country, as is the current policy? Again despite the newfound ability to prevent settlement, only Bismarck ND is even considering doing it at this time and has not yet succeeded.

[Gim]

In a more sensible perspective, the midwest as aforementioned.

Why any one region? Why not literally across the country, as is the current policy? Again despite the newfound ability to prevent settlement, only Bismarck ND is even considering doing it at this time and has not yet succeeded.

It's for the benefit of the refugees: Have them in a region where they can mingle with those with similarities and those who do not discriminate as much.

[The Two Jerseys]

Make them citizens. Draft them immediately, and send them overseas as part of the American Liberation force liberating their wartorn homeland.

If we wouldn't declare war on a place, we shouldn't be accepting refugees from that place. If we would accept refugees from that place, they should be expected to contribute to the war effort to liberate their home.

Agreed, give them rifles and send them back to Bay of Pigs the fuck out of the shithole they came from.

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

The number is a record low because we are accepted record low numbers of refugees, again it's more of a federal problem. And although there are some in Washington trying to kill the program they are a fairly safe minority, at least for the time being.

DACA was the first step, I believe?

DACA did not deal with refugees. A refugee is different than an unlawful arrival.

[Gim]

Make them citizens. Draft them immediately, and send them overseas as part of the American Liberation force liberating their wartorn homeland.

If we wouldn't declare war on a place, we shouldn't be accepting refugees from that place. If we would accept refugees from that place, they should be expected to contribute to the war effort to liberate their home.

Agreed, give them rifles and send them back to Bay of Pigs the fuck out of the shithole they came from.

Reminds me of Don Cherry; I agree with your sarcasm.

[San Lumen]

In a more sensible perspective, the midwest as aforementioned.

Why any one region? Why not literally across the country, as is the current policy? Again despite the newfound ability to prevent settlement, only Bismarck ND is even considering doing it at this time and has not yet succeeded.

The county commission voted to keep taking refugees.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/ ... -top-story

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Why any one region? Why not literally across the country, as is the current policy? Again despite the newfound ability to prevent settlement, only Bismarck ND is even considering doing it at this time and has not yet succeeded.

It's for the benefit of the refugees: Have them in a region where they can mingle with those with similarities and those who do not discriminate as much.

I think of greater benefit to refugees is the current program that provides community integration, job training, language classes, and other services as well as providing a choice of community for those being settled. Settling refugees into a single geographic area is not a good idea, it has not worked well for Europe and it would not work well for the United States. It is not a good way to welcome new citizens and their cultures.

[Gim]

DACA was the first step, I believe?

DACA did not deal with refugees. A refugee is different than an unlawful arrival.

DACA is not unlawful, but I understand your point.

[San Lumen]

Make them citizens. Draft them immediately, and send them overseas as part of the American Liberation force liberating their wartorn homeland.

If we wouldn't declare war on a place, we shouldn't be accepting refugees from that place. If we would accept refugees from that place, they should be expected to contribute to the war effort to liberate their home.

Agreed, give them rifles and send them back to Bay of Pigs the fuck out of the shithole they came from.

So easy for you to say when you haven’t faced persecution for your religion, who you love, political opinions or what you write and when your not facing civil war

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

Why any one region? Why not literally across the country, as is the current policy? Again despite the newfound ability to prevent settlement, only Bismarck ND is even considering doing it at this time and has not yet succeeded.

The county commission voted to keep taking refugees.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/ ... -top-story

Very good to know, thank you. Another demonstration of how the system works correctly.

[Solanos]

The war effort is the primary cause of refugees... You even implied yourself that being wartorn was bad. How is a 'do as I say, not as I do' mentality helpful? Evacuate all non-combatants, that is a golden-rule-compliant solution.

Life must end all violence before violence ends all life.

When did I ever imply the Golden rule was anything close to my ethical foundations? In cases where existence in another country is untenable due to tyrannical regimes we should be declaring war on said regimes and ending them with violence. The very necessity to accept refugees from a place means we have already judged that country as deficient. Is it enough then to merely help those few fortunates who manage to escape? No. No it's not. If we are going to extend THESE people help, then logically we must also believe those people still IN the country are worth helping if able. And we are more than able. Therefor, any accepting of refugees must morally coincide with the immediate declaration of war upon whatever nation it is we are accepting refugees from, with the intent of establishing a constitutionally compliant republic.

Nonsense. Violence is an intrinsic part of the human condition. War is Humanity and Humanity is War. To erase one is to erase the other.

So easy for you to say when you don’t have to worry about being persecuted for who you love, or for your religion, for political opinions, or if your region or country is embroiled in a civil war.

.... Considering I do get persecution for two of those three. Thankfully I don't love, so that one isn't a concern.

So edgy. Gonna see you on the news after the next shooting.

[Gim]

Agreed, give them rifles and send them back to Bay of Pigs the fuck out of the shithole they came from.

So easy for you to say when you haven’t faced persecution for your religion, who you love, political opinions or what you write and when your not facing civil war

Thought he was being sarcastic...

[The Shrailleeni Empire]

DACA did not deal with refugees. A refugee is different than an unlawful arrival.

DACA is not unlawful, but I understand your point.

No, I'm referring to the actual language of the legislation and who is eligible for it. I understand that those receiving DACA are no longer considered unlawful. I'm actually a big supporter of DACA, I think it is a very valuable and effective way of attempting to fix the U.S. immigration system.