Where Should We Resettle Refugees In The US?

[San Lumen]

How about you resettle them in New York, San Francisco, or Los Angeles if they absolutely have to be resettled here? Preferably we could keep them in Europe or in their country of origin.

Why just there? what if they dont want to go there? They should go to all 50 states. If they want to go other states or cities we should let them

Yet lets just close the door and say "sorry you were born in the wrong country, not our problem if your being persecuted for your ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or if your country is embroiled in civil war.

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

I dont want our nation involved in endless wars. Its not our job be to the police force of the world.

I never said we should have open borders. Allowing in refugees doesnt mean open borders

It's not our job to be the world's homeless shelter either.

Agreed. Let the other nations of the world deal with the refugee problem and leave us be.

[San Lumen]

I dont want our nation involved in endless wars. Its not our job be to the police force of the world.

I never said we should have open borders. Allowing in refugees doesnt mean open borders

It's not our job to be the world's homeless shelter either.

No one called for that.

[The Two Jerseys]

It's not our job to be the world's homeless shelter either.

No one called for that.

So we can send those Haitian "refugees" back?

[San Lumen]

No one called for that.

So we can send those Haitian "refugees" back?

Why should we?

[The Two Jerseys]

So we can send those Haitian "refugees" back?

Why should we?

Because a natural disaster does not make it unsafe for them to remain in their own country.

[The Emerald Legion]

Dude there is an opposition in every nation, it might not be visible but it’s there. Also there’s no opposition in Syria? Then what pray tell was the fucking Syrian Civil war all about?!


Ya no.

The Civil War seems to have been largely unsuccessful and the government has the upper hand. The regime isnt falling anytime soon.

Irrelevant. If we decided to make the regime fall, it would fall.

You're misunderstanding me. And I'm not sure if it's on purpose or if you just don't grock the idea. But what I'm proposing is not proxy wars. It is not sponsoring some third world militia. It is not limited deployment as currently practiced where we send in small numbers of troops to muck around.

I'm talking about making it a legal declaration of war to accept refugees. Think less Iraq, and more Postwar Japan. Where we rebuild their nation from the ground up and never quite leave entirely.

[Loben The 2nd]

How about you resettle them in New York, San Francisco, or Los Angeles if they absolutely have to be resettled here? Preferably we could keep them in Europe or in their country of origin.

Why just there? what if they dont want to go there? They should go to all 50 states. If they want to go other states or cities we should let them

Yet lets just close the door and say "sorry you were born in the wrong country, not our problem if your being persecuted for your ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or if your country is embroiled in civil war.

they should go to where ever the people who *wanted them here* are.

i mean dont you want your city to be even more diverse lumen?

[Ordenstaat Burgundy]

Why just there? what if they dont want to go there? They should go to all 50 states. If they want to go other states or cities we should let them

Yet lets just close the door and say "sorry you were born in the wrong country, not our problem if your being persecuted for your ethnicity, religion, or sexual orientation or if your country is embroiled in civil war.

they should go to where ever the people who *wanted them here* are.

i mean dont you want your city to be even more diverse lumen?

Seconded. Besides why should communities and states that don't want the refugees have said refugees forced on them?

[Adamantaean Magocrate]

Seconded. Besides why should communities and states that don't want the refugees have said refugees forced on them?

Evangelicals don't have more value than Muslims. Throw them in together.

[San Lumen]

The Civil War seems to have been largely unsuccessful and the government has the upper hand. The regime isnt falling anytime soon.

Irrelevant. If we decided to make the regime fall, it would fall.

You're misunderstanding me. And I'm not sure if it's on purpose or if you just don't grock the idea. But what I'm proposing is not proxy wars. It is not sponsoring some third world militia. It is not limited deployment as currently practiced where we send in small numbers of troops to muck around.

I'm talking about making it a legal declaration of war to accept refugees. Think less Iraq, and more Postwar Japan. Where we rebuild their nation from the ground up and never quite leave entirely.

Id rather not adopt such a policy. If people want to leave and not fight the regime or leave because their fear arrest then we should take them in. Its real easy for you to say oh lets do something like post war Japan. Id rather the money your proposing be spent be spent here.

they should go to where ever the people who *wanted them here* are.

i mean dont you want your city to be even more diverse lumen?

Seconded. Besides why should communities and states that don't want the refugees have said refugees forced on them?

Because no one has more value than anyone else based on skin color or religion. If people dont like that someone who doesnt look like them moves into their community. Tough

[Loben The 2nd]

Irrelevant. If we decided to make the regime fall, it would fall.

You're misunderstanding me. And I'm not sure if it's on purpose or if you just don't grock the idea. But what I'm proposing is not proxy wars. It is not sponsoring some third world militia. It is not limited deployment as currently practiced where we send in small numbers of troops to muck around.

I'm talking about making it a legal declaration of war to accept refugees. Think less Iraq, and more Postwar Japan. Where we rebuild their nation from the ground up and never quite leave entirely.

Id rather not adopt such a policy. If people want to leave and not fight the regime or leave because their fear arrest then we should take them in. Its real easy for you to say oh lets do something like post war Japan. Id rather the money your proposing be spent be spent here.

Seconded. Besides why should communities and states that don't want the refugees have said refugees forced on them?

Because no one has more value than anyone else based on skin color or religion. If people dont like that someone who doesnt look like them moves into their community. Tough

you didnt answer my question lumen.

[San Lumen]

Id rather not adopt such a policy. If people want to leave and not fight the regime or leave because their fear arrest then we should take them in. Its real easy for you to say oh lets do something like post war Japan. Id rather the money your proposing be spent be spent here.





Because no one has more value than anyone else based on skin color or religion. If people dont like that someone who doesnt look like them moves into their community. Tough

you didnt answer my question lumen.

If they want to come to New York great. if they want to go to Jefferson City then they should be able too.

[The Two Jerseys]

you didnt answer my question lumen.

If they want to come to New York great. if they want to go to Jefferson City then they should be able too.

And what if the people of Jefferson City doesn't want them like you don't want New York to have skinny skyscrapers?

[San Lumen]

If they want to come to New York great. if they want to go to Jefferson City then they should be able too.

And what if the people of Jefferson City doesn't want them like you don't want New York to have skinny skyscrapers?

No community should get to pick and choose who lives there.

[The Two Jerseys]

And what if the people of Jefferson City doesn't want them like you don't want New York to have skinny skyscrapers?

No community should get to pick and choose who lives there.

So you're fine with unoccupied skinny skyscrapers now?

[Neu California]

No community should get to pick and choose who lives there.

So you're fine with unoccupied skinny skyscrapers now?

How does that follow?

[San Lumen]

No community should get to pick and choose who lives there.

So you're fine with unoccupied skinny skyscrapers now?

Not the topic

[Samicana]

Put them behind the border where they belong

Unless you're Native American, can you really say that since the U.S. is on stolen land?

[Gagium]

In light of the capital of North Dakota, Bismark, barring new refugee arrivals in the future, a new question has come to mind; if we resettle refugees, where should we? While of course there is the argument we shouldn't resettle refugees at all, if we were to, where should we? Of course some people will point out not to at all, or to resettle them in big cities, but I personally think we should resettle them in a very unlikely state; North Carolina.

That may sound crazy; many North Carolinian's (if not most) would straight out reject that. But, here is my evidence; North Carolina had a high rate of job growth in the 2018 year, and I think many refugees would be able to resettle here. Many refugees have college educations in there home countries (though most of them are not accepted in the US), but there is a large retail industry here, which does not require a education.

What do you think NS?

We should settle refugees outside of the US.

[San Lumen]

In light of the capital of North Dakota, Bismark, barring new refugee arrivals in the future, a new question has come to mind; if we resettle refugees, where should we? While of course there is the argument we shouldn't resettle refugees at all, if we were to, where should we? Of course some people will point out not to at all, or to resettle them in big cities, but I personally think we should resettle them in a very unlikely state; North Carolina.

That may sound crazy; many North Carolinian's (if not most) would straight out reject that. But, here is my evidence; North Carolina had a high rate of job growth in the 2018 year, and I think many refugees would be able to resettle here. Many refugees have college educations in there home countries (though most of them are not accepted in the US), but there is a large retail industry here, which does not require a education.

What do you think NS?

We should settle refugees outside of the US.

Why not in the US?

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Put them behind the border where they belong

Let me remind you if your home was destroyed and your country was in the middle of violent conflict, you would probably flee your country.

"My country sucks" is not grounds for asylum unless the nation that sucks is Marxist or an ally (e.g. Venezuela, Vietnam after the war).

"My people/culture/faith/family is undergoing systematic, state-endorsed extermination/suppression/oppression", however, is grounds for asylum.

I can think of several groups that should be welcomed en-masse as refugeees or asyulum seekers: Kurds, Yazidis, Manicheans, Zoroastrians, pretty much any and all Christians from persecution areas (especially Middle Eastern and Chinese Christians), Fulan Gong cultists, Venezuelans, Coptics, Jews, and countless more.

The problem is not refugee resettlement. The problem is that we are resettling people from terror hot beds and savage cultures. Why does ANYONE want a person from the Democratic Republic of the Congo in their nation? The Congo literally has incest cults of armed rapists that tie down and violate their grandparents in a gang rape. The Belgians treated the Congolese better and Somalia has a similar rate of crime when you resettle "refugees".

The same goes with Muslims from Syria. They are here to dominate and conquer, not flee. It's an invasion and is done in deceit and without violence, much like the Hijrah. Somalia is even worse.

I say we close the door to the Muslims, especially those of the Middle East (e.g. Syria), quarantine the Congo, and swing the door open to minority religions and Christians, as well as all the parties listed above. As a general rule, one should have to be persecuted or expelled by a state to be a refugee.

As for illegal aliens forging asylum because "I'm poor and my country is trash", turn them down if they can't prove actual state persecution exists. For aliens we have here, I go for my longstanding belief: Build the Wall, secure the borders, deport aliens with further criminal records, and amnestize the rest.

[Gagium]

We should settle refugees outside of the US.

Why not in the US?

Because life in the US sucks. We need to keep as many people away from us as possible!

[Gagium]

Put them behind the border where they belong

Unless you're Native American, can you really say that since the U.S. is on stolen land?

No, most (if not all) land the US currently occupies was granted through legally recognized treatises

[Bear Stearns]

Put them behind the border where they belong

Unless you're Native American, can you really say that since the U.S. is on stolen land?

LOL THIS FUCKING GUY