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Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Kowani wrote:Appeal to greater problems is automatically discarded unless you are actively working against the heat death of the universe.

I fully support the human conquest of the multiverse tbqh

Washington Resistance Army wrote:

Kowani wrote:Appeal to greater problems is automatically discarded unless you are actively working against the heat death of the universe.

I fully support the human conquest of the multiverse tbqh

Kowani wrote:

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
I fully support the human conquest of the multiverse tbqh

You’d have better luck getting sharks to attend tea parties.

Gormwood wrote:It's a bad sign when you think refugees should be dealt with like a Heinlein book. There's a reason Verhoeven satirized Starship Troopers to Hell and back.

Solanos wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
I don't see what's edgy about "We should not tolerate the existence of genocidal regimes."

Other things I say perhaps. But not that one.

And yet America should not be the world's police. It always results in total hegemony for fascism, as well as the rise of even more genocidal regimes. We've been down this road before.

Satuga wrote:Maybe we should, first get them proper paperwork and citizenship(should they want), then give them a proper introduction to the US economy and work force, and give them pros and cons of different areas, and then give them a choice of where they want to live?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Solanos wrote:And yet America should not be the world's police. It always results in total hegemony for fascism, as well as the rise of even more genocidal regimes. We've been down this road before.

Not really no. As debased and corrupt as Europe is, it would be worse if not for American intervention.

The rest of the world has similar issues and needs similar repairs, and we must also fix Europe's current backslide into barbarism.

Solanos wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really no. As debased and corrupt as Europe is, it would be worse if not for American intervention.

The rest of the world has similar issues and needs similar repairs, and we must also fix Europe's current backslide into barbarism.

Says the future school shooter.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Solanos wrote:Says the future school shooter.

And you call me edgy?

Solanos wrote:So edgy. Gonna see you on the news after the next shooting.

Solanos wrote:Says the future school shooter.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

Solanos wrote:And yet America should not be the world's police. It always results in total hegemony for fascism, as well as the rise of even more genocidal regimes. We've been down this road before.

Not really no. As debased and corrupt as Europe is, it would be worse if not for American intervention.

The rest of the world has similar issues and needs similar repairs, and we must also fix Europe's current backslide into barbarism.

Cekoviu wrote:...Everywhere. Why is that not an option on the poll?

San Lumen wrote:

Cekoviu wrote:...Everywhere. Why is that not an option on the poll?

I agree we should not limit them to certain places. If they want to go to Buffalo, Jefferson City, Boulder or Sacramento it should be respected.

San Lumen wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Not really no. As debased and corrupt as Europe is, it would be worse if not for American intervention.

The rest of the world has similar issues and needs similar repairs, and we must also fix Europe's current backslide into barbarism.

That doesnt mean we should be the police force of the world and slam the door on immigration and refugees

Cekoviu wrote:No, I mean that every single person in the United States should be assigned a random place in the US and resettled there every five years.

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:
That doesnt mean we should be the police force of the world and slam the door on immigration and refugees

Of course not. Immigration, and taking advantage of the opportunities afforded therein, is a time honored American tradition. This has nothing to do with Refugees.

San Lumen wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Of course not. Immigration, and taking advantage of the opportunities afforded therein, is a time honored American tradition. This has nothing to do with Refugees.

Ok but haven't you been saying we should be the police of the world and not allow in new refugees?

The Emerald Legion wrote:

San Lumen wrote:Ok but haven't you been saying we should be the police of the world and not allow in new refugees?

No. I said that if we allow in refugees we should...

A.) Take action as a nation to end the circumstances of their exile.

B.) Expect those refugees of able body to contribute to that national effort.

Or in short terms. Dictator starts pogrom-ing people with blonde hair, we accept refugees, and then we overthrow the dictator and set up a government under our control and answerable to the USA.

Then, the refugees who weren't of able body return home to their newly de-dictatorized homes.

Refugee =\= Immigrant.

San Lumen wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
No. I said that if we allow in refugees we should...

A.) Take action as a nation to end the circumstances of their exile.

B.) Expect those refugees of able body to contribute to that national effort.

Or in short terms. Dictator starts pogrom-ing people with blonde hair, we accept refugees, and then we overthrow the dictator and set up a government under our control and answerable to the USA.

Then, the refugees who weren't of able body return home to their newly de-dictatorized homes.

Refugee =\= Immigrant.

How about no? some of these countries have no opposition. Eritrea is a prime example as is Belarus. I would rather not spend money on wars we dont have to fight.

Who are you to tell them they have to rebel against their government? Why not just let them come the US for better opportunities and if they chose to eventually become citizens let them.

Gormwood wrote:It's a bad sign when you think refugees should be dealt with like a Heinlein book. There's a reason Verhoeven satirized Starship Troopers to Hell and back.

Thermodolia wrote:

San Lumen wrote:How about no? some of these countries have no opposition. Eritrea is a prime example as is Belarus. I would rather not spend money on wars we dont have to fight.

That’s a load of horseshit. Every country has some form of opposition. Just because you don’t see it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist, otherwise you wouldn’t have repressive regimes

Who are you to tell them they have to rebel against their government? Why not just let them come the US for better opportunities and if they chose to eventually become citizens let them.

Because we can’t support the entire world. Hell we barely can support our own people and we regularly fuck over American workers. What makes you think we can support millions of refugees?

San Lumen wrote:

The Emerald Legion wrote:
No. I said that if we allow in refugees we should...

A.) Take action as a nation to end the circumstances of their exile.

B.) Expect those refugees of able body to contribute to that national effort.

Or in short terms. Dictator starts pogrom-ing people with blonde hair, we accept refugees, and then we overthrow the dictator and set up a government under our control and answerable to the USA.

Then, the refugees who weren't of able body return home to their newly de-dictatorized homes.

Refugee =\= Immigrant.

How about no? some of these countries have no opposition. Eritrea is a prime example as is Belarus. I would rather not spend money on wars we dont have to fight.

Who are you to tell them they have to rebel against their government? Why not just let them come the US for better opportunities and if they chose to eventually become citizens let them.