Where Should We Resettle Refugees In The US?

[Totenborg]

No. However, internet fascists can certainly make the issue flair up.

The White Elephant (sic!) in the room is the impending demographic shift in the US population composition.

And it comes frequently up to dismiss it. Its also often mentioned on liberal or left leaning outlets like VOX.

It'll be fine, as long as people can see through the reactionary bullcrap. If white folks would've realized earlier that "white" culture isn't even a thing, they'd have chilled out long ago. The obsession is the result of generations of propaganda to distract from the fact that the wealthy are generally screwing everyone else.

[Saiwania]

The poll apparently agrees with my view that refugees shouldn't be taken in at all. If that is the case here, imagine what the true sentiment is among actual constituents. This migration issue is a plot to change our developed nations from within. We need to be keeping out those people.

[San Lumen]

The poll apparently agrees with my view that refugees shouldn't be taken in at all. If that is the case here, imagine what the true sentiment is among actual constituents. This migration issue is a plot to change our developed nations from within. We need to be keeping out those people.

Online polls are not scientific. Friendly reminder Massachusetts was founded by people feeling religious persecution. Bismarck, North Dakota attempted to ban future refugees. The community overwhelmingly spoke out against it

[Cekoviu]

The poll apparently agrees with my view that refugees shouldn't be taken in at all. If that is the case here, imagine what the true sentiment is among actual constituents. This migration issue is a plot to change our developed nations from within. We need to be keeping out those people.

"We shouldn't resettle them" means they shouldn't be forcibly resettled from where they already live in the US; it doesn't by default have the xenophobic implications you're hoping for.

[Kievistan]

Put them behind the border where they belong

Let me remind you if your home was destroyed and your country was in the middle of violent conflict, you would probably flee your country.

They should stay and fight for the restoration of their country.

[San Lumen]

Let me remind you if your home was destroyed and your country was in the middle of violent conflict, you would probably flee your country.

They should stay and fight for the restoration of their country.

Real Easy for you to say when you haven’t faced civil war, persecution for your ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation

[Roless]

How about we all just get along and not have war? Then there would be no refugees that need resettling.

[-Astoria]

14 words: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

88 = HH = Heil Hitler

Don't forget that 14 can also be taken to represent the initials of Hitler [ie AH],

[San Lumen]

How about we all just get along and not have war? Then there would be no refugees that need resettling.

If it it was only that simple

[Loben The 2nd]

They should stay and fight for the restoration of their country.

Real Easy for you to say when you haven’t faced civil war, persecution for your ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation

have you?

[San Lumen]

Real Easy for you to say when you haven’t faced civil war, persecution for your ethnicity, religion or sexual orientation

have you?

No

[Cekoviu]

have you?

No

Which is why you're not a refugee...

[Greed and Death]

So they have jobs lined up to rebuild them. Keynesian at its finest.

on land of little value

Land values will improve once they rebuild those crumbling houses.

[San Lumen]

on land of little value

Land values will improve once they rebuild those crumbling houses.

Yes exactly. It would be a perfect solution. Why haven’t they done it I wonder?

[Loben The 2nd]

Land values will improve once they rebuild those crumbling houses.

Yes exactly. It would be a perfect solution. Why haven’t they done it I wonder?

because its Detroit and its at best, temporary housing

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The poll apparently agrees with my view that refugees shouldn't be taken in at all. If that is the case here, imagine what the true sentiment is among actual constituents. This migration issue is a plot to change our developed nations from within. We need to be keeping out those people.

Whose plot? Globalists, postmodernists, cultural Marxists, Jews?

[-Astoria]

The poll apparently agrees with my view that refugees shouldn't be taken in at all. If that is the case here, imagine what the true sentiment is among actual constituents. This migration issue is a plot to change our developed nations from within. We need to be keeping out those people.

Whose plot? Globalists, postmodernists, cultural Marxists, Jews?

Mostly the first one, but sometimes all at once.
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[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

You could’ve saved yourself the trouble and just said “14/88” because holy shit, that “future for my people” rhetoric is the most thinly veiled white nationalist argument I’ve seen on here. It tells me all I need to know about your character/beliefs to be honest, and frankly makes any sort of debate with you utterly worthless. White nationalists do not deserve to be heard or given a platform to spread their disgusting views.

Wow. This is priceless.

I: "I want to secure the best future for my people."

In other words: "I want my future descendants and countrymen to have the best lives possible."

NSG: "NAZI!!!"

If wanting a better future for one's kids is exclusive to Neo-Nazism, then I guess I'm a Neo-Nazi.

Ah yes, it's well known that having literally twice the money you would have otherwise is very detrimental to anyone and everyone.

Disregarding for a moment that your own source opens with a hilariously pathetic paragraph chock full of weasel words, which essentially boils down to "these findings are actually very controversial and not at all fact but we're wildly extrapolating them to advance our agenda anyway," let's look at this simply.

There is no labor shortage in the Western world, except perhaps in high-paying jobs that require Herculean qualifications– and which the vast majority of immigrants would be unsuited for anyway.
No, whenever you hear labor shortage, it's really a shorthand for "we want cheaper employees." Companies, very much by design, advance their own interests rather than those of the populace, and so they continually campaign for unskilled immigrants willing to work for cheaper than the natives would.

Say that somehow your ridiculous claims come true, and that opening the floodgates doubles GDP. Guess who's going to be getting all of that money? It won't be you, and it certainly won't be me. It will be those who are already filthy rich. Whatever welfare trickles down– 'cause trust me, companies aren't doing all of this just so that they can give all their money back to you in the end, out of the goodness of their hearts– will be contested by the vast immigrant populations which have been imported.

The globe's GDP doubling ≠ the average Joe's wallet doubling.

In turn decreasing production and consumer-end costs, adding more taxes to the pool and allowing greater welfare allocation, and providing further openings through the additional product input resulting from their labor, which on the whole decreases the problems associated with joblessness; of course, this hinges on appropriate economic policy and not bringing in too many or too few. It's conservative, miserly economic policies that cause an appropriately-sized influx of immigrants (including refugees) to have significant negative effects on previously present workers rather than an inherent problem with immigration, I would argue.

How is less people working ever a good thing? Not to mention that in countries like Germany, a disproportionate amount of those receiving welfare are the immigrants themselves, not native Germans.

I challenge thee to find a permanently irreconcilable cultural difference resulting in the effects thou postulate here.

Let us examine the Muslim migrants to Europe, to Britain specifically.

Rotherham, Derby, Huddersfield, Newcastle, Rochdale, and Oxford. All English cities rocked by absolutely despicable acts of rape, grooming, violence, and much worse, since at least the 1980s. None of that would have happened if not for immigrants who could clearly not accommodate to Western culture.

On a more statistical level, take Sweden. 58% of convicted rapists were foreign-born, and about 75% of perpetrators in rape assault cases (in which the assailant and victim were not previously acquainted) were born outside Europe.
And that is just the tip of the iceberg. Aside from sexual violence and pedophilia, we have terrorism and intolerance– and that is just when discussing one ethno-religious group.

Those are cultural differences whose consequences I do not want to ravage my nation.

They should be resettled in their own country.

The state's purpose should be to serve its own people, not a foreign people. Taking in refugees is, in fact, a detriment to the native people, and thus the state should not do so.

I will remind you that America was founded by immigrants.

When you say native peoples who are you referring to? What is the definition of an American
?

Native people– the people inhabiting a land as opposed to those living outside it. In the case of America, primarily white people of Anglo-Saxon descent.
It doesn't matter how they got it, it is natural for them to want to keep it. Just because America's founders supplanted one people does not mean that their descendants should stand aside and let themselves be replaced.

[Gormwood]

You could’ve saved yourself the trouble and just said “14/88” because holy shit, that “future for my people” rhetoric is the most thinly veiled white nationalist argument I’ve seen on here. It tells me all I need to know about your character/beliefs to be honest, and frankly makes any sort of debate with you utterly worthless. White nationalists do not deserve to be heard or given a platform to spread their disgusting views.

Wow. This is priceless.

I: "I want to secure the best future for my people."

In other words: "I want my future descendants and countrymen to have the best lives possible."

NSG: "NAZI!!!"

If wanting a better future for one's kids is exclusive to Neo-Nazism, then I guess I'm a Neo-Nazi.

Literally a white supremacist creed.

14 words: "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"

88 = HH = Heil Hitler

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Literally a white supremacist creed.

Aw, shucks, looks like I'm a white supremacist because I want my kids to have a good future. You got me good.

[US-SSR]

Anywhere and everywhere. There are currently five job openings for every four job seekers in the US. Where are we going to get the extra workers, grow them on trees? For a start we should be taking a million refugees from Syria and Kurdistan.

[The Grand Duchy Of Nova Capile]

Anywhere and everywhere. There are currently five job openings for every four job seekers in the US. Where are we going to get the extra workers, grow them on trees? For a start we should be taking a million refugees from Syria and Kurdistan.

I can't tell if you're serious.

[The East Marches II]

It is, though.

I wasn't aware that pretending to be a nihilist was such a core part of your psychology. I'll keep that in mind for the future :^)

When the book’s explicitly about group IQ differences (something that does actually exist, the Bell Curve’s just spectacularly bad at the why), it’s not hard to see how it could possibly be racist. Or were you too lazy to do a quick google search and learn something?

You are supposedly a debater type but you seem to have forgotten the part where if one makes the claim, and lacks crediability as you do, that you need to post proofs. How I can take your word when you fall for pop history myths? Example number one being seriously thinking Ataturk was a liberal who industralized Turkey rather than a Nationalist in the Querfront who liquidated his foes when they outlived their usefulness in show trials.

I read your posts.

I am glad then they struck a blow at the facade of nihilism you cloak yourself in.

Explicitly no. That’s a strawman, and I’ve had more than enough of that particular nonsense.

No, thats what you meant by that. I find interesting you view the world in such a lens of racial struggle. One might say you would make an excellent social justice type should you so choose :^)

Revolts which happen because of western intervention in the first place.? The ME would have problems regardless, but holy fuck, colonialism and interventionism have made them so much worse.

I find it ironic you simply can't accept that the Arabs did it to themselves. You've a very victim view of the world. Were your people oppressed by an empires by chance?

The Arabs when they decided to go for nationalism, called on the Allies for help. They invited them in after seeing what they had already done to Africa. On top of that, after they won, the Saudi King even wrote letters on how tolerant of the Jews the Arabs are and how welcome they would be compared to the Turks. Not only did the Arabs invite in their own problems, they invited in the very people they'd ruin their countries trying to destroy for a strip of land. Really the whole history of the Arabs in the modern world is a pleasant tale of people who made a deal with the devil and are mad they are now paying the bargain. Nobody made them fall to nationalism. Nobody made them invite the Jews. They did it to themselves. Thats the most ironic thing of all.

All politics are identity politics, hypocrisy abounds here.

The eternal cry of the identity politics practioner. I am rather glad your ideology turned out to be far more bankrupt than I could have imagined. What a gift!

[US-SSR]

Anywhere and everywhere. There are currently five job openings for every four job seekers in the US. Where are we going to get the extra workers, grow them on trees? For a start we should be taking a million refugees from Syria and Kurdistan.

I can't tell if you're serious.

Try the Bureau of Labor Statistics then.

[Tokora]

Not saying we should shove them there Soviet style, but with government support for infrastructure the midwest has a current population density so low that anyone who says that the country is full is either an idiot or never bothered to look at a map.