Burleigh County, North Dakota May Bar New Refugees

[Greater Cesnica]

I can tell a significant amount of posters here do not have the insight of living in rural communities for extended periods of times. Even 25 people could obliterate the economic wellbeing of a small town.

Seriously depending on how small the town is, even the arrival of a single family can throw a balance out of whack.

I go up north to this tiny town called Markdale in Mid-western Ontario every summer. Around 1250 live there. 25 people, oh Lord. All the jobs are taken, and no new ones can be created save for several stores opening up, which hasn't happened for years.

[Imbalistan]

Seriously depending on how small the town is, even the arrival of a single family can throw a balance out of whack.

I go up north to this tiny town called Markdale in Mid-western Ontario. Around 1250 live there. 25 people, oh Lord. All the jobs are taken, and no new ones can be created save for several stores opening up, which hasn't happened for years.

It seems that unemployment is going up in Bismark. While I support refugee resettlement, Bismark isn't exactly a great city to resettle right now.

[Telconi]

uh-huh.

Most of the last few posts from you seem to be just saying "uh-huh" and short sentences. Not to come stand-offish, but would you mind adding something better to the debate, like some statistics?

I mean, dismissing someone's opinions doesn't require statistics.

[The Two Jerseys]

It's their prerogative, good for them.

Why do you think it's good? It sends a very bad message

Why is it good to ban people from building skinny skyscrapers?

[Imbalistan]

Most of the last few posts from you seem to be just saying "uh-huh" and short sentences. Not to come stand-offish, but would you mind adding something better to the debate, like some statistics?

I mean, dismissing someone's opinions doesn't require statistics.

Got me there.

[Arlenton]

Seriously depending on how small the town is, even the arrival of a single family can throw a balance out of whack.

I go up north to this tiny town called Markdale in Mid-western Ontario every summer. Around 1250 live there. 25 people, oh Lord. All the jobs are taken, and no new ones can be created save for several stores opening up, which hasn't happened for years.

The town I used to live in had around ~900 people and a not so great job market.

And to think there's some who think their approval of our "message" is the most important factor when considering refugee resettlement.

[San Lumen]

They haven't had the vote yet.

What do you mean? Who is adopting this policy then? I don't see how Bismark can function without elected officials.

The county commission is voting. It’s not a referendum

[Imbalistan]

I go up north to this tiny town called Markdale in Mid-western Ontario every summer. Around 1250 live there. 25 people, oh Lord. All the jobs are taken, and no new ones can be created save for several stores opening up, which hasn't happened for years.

The town I used to live in had around ~900 people and a not so great job market.

And to think there's some who think their approval of our "message" is the most important factor when considering refugee resettlement.

Smaller cities would be a better idea, as they tend to be growing in terms of the job market. States like Utah, Arizona, and maybe even Montana would be better states for resettlement. While Montana doesn't have much major job growth, Utah and Arizona do.

[Arlenton]

What do you mean? Who is adopting this policy then? I don't see how Bismark can function without elected officials.

The county commission is voting. It’s not a referendum

I see. So they may vote to ban them, or not to ban them. Regardless it's their choice.

[The Two Jerseys]

The county commission is voting. It’s not a referendum

I see. So they may vote to ban them, or not to ban them. Regardless it's their choice.

Something something free and fair election something something if you don't like it vote them out.

[Arlenton]

The town I used to live in had around ~900 people and a not so great job market.

And to think there's some who think their approval of our "message" is the most important factor when considering refugee resettlement.

Smaller cities would be a better idea, as they tend to be growing in terms of the job market. States like Utah, Arizona, and maybe even Montana would be better states for resettlement. While Montana doesn't have much major job growth, Utah and Arizona do.

Hmmm. Not sure if my city would be considered small or not. We are growing a lot though, and have an excellent job market. I think it'd be a good place for refugee settlement. Thank you warm weather and Texas Republicans.

[Imbalistan]

Smaller cities would be a better idea, as they tend to be growing in terms of the job market. States like Utah, Arizona, and maybe even Montana would be better states for resettlement. While Montana doesn't have much major job growth, Utah and Arizona do.

Hmmm. Not sure if my city would be considered small or not. We are growing a lot though, and have an excellent job market. I think it'd be a good place for refugee settlement. Thank you warm weather and Texas Republicans.

San Francisco sweating noises

[Kubra]

Well I mean this is by all means a good thing, could we live with ourselves if we subjected innocent refugees to rural north dakota?

[San Lumen]

Well I mean this is by all means a good thing, could we live with ourselves if we subjected innocent refugees to rural north dakota?

Refugees are rarely if ever placed in rural areas.

[Major-Tom]

Well I mean this is by all means a good thing, could we live with ourselves if we subjected innocent refugees to rural north dakota?

Refugees are rarely if ever placed in rural areas.

It's true that they're generally placed in smaller cities/towns, often working class. Think Lewiston Maine or Missoula.

[San Lumen]

Refugees are rarely if ever placed in rural areas.

It's true that they're generally placed in smaller cities/towns, often working class. Think Lewiston Maine or Missoula.

Its probably better for them to go to smaller towns and cities though I have heard of them being placed in larger ones as well such as Buffalo, Nashville or St Louis.

https://bismarcktribune.com/news/local/ ... -top-story

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/09/us/r ... akota.html

The county commission voted in a 3-2 vote to continue to take in refugees after hours of passionate testimony including many refugees. The county commission also voted it will have a cap of 25 refugees for the next year the same as last year.One speaker was a Walmart manager who moved to Bismarck in 2016 after feeling Afghanistan to avoid persecution against his Hazaras ethnic group. The county commission also voted it will have a cap of 25 refugees for the next year the same as last year.

[The Republic of Fore]

Shame that they voted it down, there's no reason for anywhere in the US to take refugees. What message it does or doesn't send is irrelevant.

[San Lumen]

Shame that they voted it down, there's no reason for anywhere in the US to take refugees. What message it does or doesn't send is irrelevant.

Yeah lets close the border entirely and say to the world "You weren't born here tough."

[The Republic of Fore]

Shame that they voted it down, there's no reason for anywhere in the US to take refugees. What message it does or doesn't send is irrelevant.

Yeah lets close the border entirely and say to the world "You weren't born here tough."

We don't have to close the border to refuse to take refugees. We can still take people who would benefit our economy. But when we have a laundry list of our own problems, there's no reason to spend even one cent helping people who aren't our citizens. Is Syria going to rebuild our highways? Is Afghanistan going to come up with the trillions of dollars it'll take to get our electrical grid up to what it should be? No? Then why should we help them? If my kids are starving, I'm not giving my last dollar to someone else's.

[San Lumen]

Yeah lets close the border entirely and say to the world "You weren't born here tough."

We don't have to close the border to refuse to take refugees. We can still take people who would benefit our economy. But when we have a laundry list of our own problems, there's no reason to spend even one cent helping people who aren't our citizens. Is Syria going to rebuild our highways? Is Afghanistan going to come up with the trillions of dollars it'll take to get our electrical grid up to what it should be? No? Then why should we help them? If my kids are starving, I'm not giving my last dollar to someone else's.

That Syrian might get a job with the Transportation Department. The person from Afghanistan might go work for the electric company.

We should help people seeking better opportunity. We should not slam the door on the world and say you weren't born here tough.

I misread the article by the way. They voted to continue taking refugees in a 3-2 vote.

[The Republic of Fore]

We don't have to close the border to refuse to take refugees. We can still take people who would benefit our economy. But when we have a laundry list of our own problems, there's no reason to spend even one cent helping people who aren't our citizens. Is Syria going to rebuild our highways? Is Afghanistan going to come up with the trillions of dollars it'll take to get our electrical grid up to what it should be? No? Then why should we help them? If my kids are starving, I'm not giving my last dollar to someone else's.

That Syrian might get a job with the Transportation Department. The person from Afghanistan might go work for the electric company.

We should help people seeking better opportunity. We should not slam the door on the world and say you weren't born here tough.

I misread the article by the way. They voted to continue taking refugees in a 3-2 vote.

Sure, they might make that extremely miniscule contribution. But so could an American.

[Kowani]

Yeah lets close the border entirely and say to the world "You weren't born here tough."

We don't have to close the border to refuse to take refugees. We can still take people who would benefit our economy. But when we have a laundry list of our own problems, there's no reason to spend even one cent helping people who aren't our citizens. Is Syria going to rebuild our highways? Is Afghanistan going to come up with the trillions of dollars it'll take to get our electrical grid up to what it should be? No? Then why should we help them? If my kids are starving, I'm not giving my last dollar to someone else's.

Appeal to greater problems is automatically discarded unless you are actively working against the heat death of the universe.

[Galloism]

We don't have to close the border to refuse to take refugees. We can still take people who would benefit our economy. But when we have a laundry list of our own problems, there's no reason to spend even one cent helping people who aren't our citizens. Is Syria going to rebuild our highways? Is Afghanistan going to come up with the trillions of dollars it'll take to get our electrical grid up to what it should be? No? Then why should we help them? If my kids are starving, I'm not giving my last dollar to someone else's.

Appeal to greater problems is automatically discarded unless you are actively working against the heat death of the universe.

I've got that one covered.

[Eitoan]

Don't know if it would stand up in court, but would be a statement of sentiment.

[San Lumen]

Don't know if it would stand up in court, but would be a statement of sentiment.

Voting down the resolution wouldn’t have sent a very good message especially being the county with the state capital