Burleigh County, North Dakota May Bar New Refugees

[Telconi]

Who's strawmanning?

I'm saying in general. I've had several encounters with them today, and it's ticked me off.

Seems like an odd general gripe to put in this thread, but whatever.

[San Lumen]

Nice to have a North Dakotan weigh in on this. Big cities arent unwelcoming of darker skin types though. I dont know where you got that notion.

Why would the state capital want to keep people away?

Maybe they don't have a great job market, and would not want to make things worse?

North Dakota gets a small amount of refugees to begin with. I think the article mentioned somewhere around 25 a year. How is that going to create a huge impact?

[Arlenton]

And until they work they'll be listed as unemployed which makes the city look bad.

And if there aren't really any new jobs opening up in the area the only way the refugees will get jobs is by fighting it out with the locals for positions. That will simply create ill will and the "They took our jobs" mentality..

Why not just close the borders entirely then and have no immigration at all with a mentality like that?

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

[Greater Cesnica]

I'm saying in general. I've had several encounters with them today, and it's ticked me off.

Seems like an off general gripe to put in this thread, but whatever.

Okay, I saw strawmanning going on here earlier. I am too tired and too intoxicated to go back several pages and see from who and in what context. And I don't care to start a pitiful argument over it.

[Loben The 2nd]

Maybe they don't have a great job market, and would not want to make things worse?

North Dakota gets a small amount of refugees to begin with. I think the article mentioned somewhere around 25 a year. How is that going to create a huge impact?

social services, housing.....

[Arlenton]

Maybe they don't have a great job market, and would not want to make things worse?

North Dakota gets a small amount of refugees to begin with. I think the article mentioned somewhere around 25 a year. How is that going to create a huge impact?

25 people in need of jobs where there are none can harm the economy of a town.

[Arlenton]

Seems like an off general gripe to put in this thread, but whatever.

Okay, I saw strawmanning going on here earlier. I am too tired and too intoxicated to go back several pages and see from who and in what context. And I don't care to start a pitiful argument over it.

But you just did lmao.

[San Lumen]

Why not just close the borders entirely then and have no immigration at all with a mentality like that?

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

[Loben The 2nd]

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

so?

[Imbalistan]

North Dakota is a horrible state to put refugees in, coming from a refugee advocate.

A better state probably would be North Carolina. While not exactly hospitable, job growth is high there, and there is plenty of demand for retail jobs. On the more hospitable side would be Washington state, which had a large amount of job growth in 2018.

[The Lone Alliance]

And until they work they'll be listed as unemployed which makes the city look bad.

And if there aren't really any new jobs opening up in the area the only way the refugees will get jobs is by fighting it out with the locals for positions. That will simply create ill will and the "They took our jobs" mentality..

Why not just close the borders entirely then and have no immigration at all with a mentality like that?

Because some places it's the other way around. And no shipping the people from this part of North Dakota to the place that has jobs but no people isn't a solution either.

There is no "one size fits all" solution to everything.

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

Maybe Virtue signalling isn't important to North Dakota.

[Telconi]

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

Then vote against the county supervisors who support it come next election.

[Arlenton]

Because there's plenty of places where they are welcomed and can settle without harming anyone else's economic well being. Bismark is not one of those places. So Bismark doesn't have to deal with them.

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

Yes, 25 people in need of jobs would be a huge burden for many communities.

And any sort of made up messaging, whatever that is, is irrelevant.

[Arlenton]

North Dakota is a horrible state to put refugees in, coming from a refugee advocate.

A better state probably would be North Carolina. While not exactly hospitable, job growth is high there, and there is plenty of demand for retail jobs. On the more hospitable side would be Washington state, which had a large amount of job growth in 2018.

I'm sure there's plenty of places that would welcome them in NC.

[San Lumen]

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

so?

what do you mean so? I wouldn't want my state capital sending that message but its doubtful they ever would considering its a very diverse city and full of immigrants.

North Dakota is a horrible state to put refugees in, coming from a refugee advocate.

A better state probably would be North Carolina. While not exactly hospitable, job growth is high there, and there is plenty of demand for retail jobs. On the more hospitable side would be Washington state, which had a large amount of job growth in 2018.

Im inclined to agree but declaring you city or county a unwelcoming place isn't going to inspire people to move there and could even hurt Bismarck in the long run.

[Greater Cesnica]

25 people a year is going to have a huge economic impact? I think it sends a terrible message to the country that the county the capital city is located in doesnt want refugees.

Yes, 25 people in need of jobs would be a huge burden for many communities.

And any sort of made up messaging, whatever that is, is irrelevant.

I can tell a significant amount of posters here do not have the insight of living in rural communities for extended periods of times. Even 25 people could obliterate the economic wellbeing of a small town.

[Arlenton]

so?

what do you mean so? I wouldn't want my state capital sending that message but its doubtful they ever would considering its a very diverse city and full of immigrants.

North Dakota is a horrible state to put refugees in, coming from a refugee advocate.

A better state probably would be North Carolina. While not exactly hospitable, job growth is high there, and there is plenty of demand for retail jobs. On the more hospitable side would be Washington state, which had a large amount of job growth in 2018.

Im inclined to agree but declaring you city or county a unwelcoming place isn't going to inspire people to move there and could even hurt Bismarck in the long run.

The people of Bismark disagree with you. They don't want them, and I doubt they care if that is known. Their reputation cannot possibly be as bad as say, Chicago or San Francisco.

[San Lumen]

what do you mean so? I wouldn't want my state capital sending that message but its doubtful they ever would considering its a very diverse city and full of immigrants.



Im inclined to agree but declaring you city or county a unwelcoming place isn't going to inspire people to move there and could even hurt Bismarck in the long run.

The people of Bismark disagree with you. They don't want them, and I doubt they care if that is known. Their reputation cannot possibly be as bad as say, Chicago or San Francisco.

They haven't had the vote yet.

[Arlenton]

Yes, 25 people in need of jobs would be a huge burden for many communities.

And any sort of made up messaging, whatever that is, is irrelevant.

I can tell a significant amount of posters here do not have the insight of living in rural communities for extended periods of times. Even 25 people could obliterate the economic wellbeing of a small town.

I know. Where I used to live, 25 people would have fucked the town's economy up. Just 10 people likely would have done the same.

I think we should be aware that some posters are ignorant of this and/or just don't care.

[Loben The 2nd]

so?

what do you mean so? I wouldn't want my state capital sending that message but its doubtful they ever would considering its a very diverse city and full of immigrants.

uh-huh.

[Imbalistan]

North Dakota is a horrible state to put refugees in, coming from a refugee advocate.

A better state probably would be North Carolina. While not exactly hospitable, job growth is high there, and there is plenty of demand for retail jobs. On the more hospitable side would be Washington state, which had a large amount of job growth in 2018.

I'm sure there's plenty of places that would welcome them in NC.

I lived in North Carolina for a short time, so I can confirm there are probably some places that would be willing to take them in. Cities with more jobs, both highschool and beyond (many refugees have qualifications from there home country), would be a better fit.

[The Lone Alliance]

I can tell a significant amount of posters here do not have the insight of living in rural communities for extended periods of times. Even 25 people could obliterate the economic wellbeing of a small town.

Seriously depending on how small the town is, even the arrival of a single family can throw a balance out of whack.

[Arlenton]

The people of Bismark disagree with you. They don't want them, and I doubt they care if that is known. Their reputation cannot possibly be as bad as say, Chicago or San Francisco.

They haven't had the vote yet.

What do you mean? Who is adopting this policy then? I don't see how Bismark can function without elected officials.

[Arlenton]

I'm sure there's plenty of places that would welcome them in NC.

I lived in North Carolina for a short time, so I can confirm there are probably some places that would be willing to take them in. Cities with more jobs, both highschool and beyond (many refugees have qualifications from there home country), would be a better fit.

Sounds like a good idea. I think my current city here in Texas would be a good place for refugee settlement too. We have great job growth.

[Imbalistan]

what do you mean so? I wouldn't want my state capital sending that message but its doubtful they ever would considering its a very diverse city and full of immigrants.

uh-huh.

Most of the last few posts from you seem to be just saying "uh-huh" and short sentences. Not to come stand-offish, but would you mind adding something better to the debate, like some statistics?