What is your primary news source?

[TURTLESHROOM II]

> NYT ahd PBS are left-wing, CNN is "lunatic left"

I'm sorry, are you okay? Do you need a lesson on the political spectrum? CNN aren't even left-wing, barely centrist, same with NYT. American news is almost entirely either right-wing or centre-right, aligning with the two major parties.

AH HA HA HA!! You think that CNN is, by the American political scale, RIGHTIST, let alone centrist?!

America is a center-right nation. That puts its Overton Window far away from Europe. On the European scale, CNN and NYT are centrist or slightly left-leaning at best. On the European scale, PBS news is centrist.

On the American scale, MSNBC is the farthest-left mainstream channel in the USA.
CNN is as leftist as MSNBC, but it's also psychotic and, unlike MSNBC, doesn't even pretend to try and maintain an illusion of fairness or decency. (Just ask Jim Acosta.)

On the AMERICAN scale, the most centrist of all the left-wing mainstream outlets is ABC, followed by PBS. The hardest right channel is, of course, Fox News.

[TURTLESHROOM II]

Marianne Williamson is not a "literal Gnostic"

I need to state that I have a higher approval rating of Williamson than Trump. She touches my heart deeply, but not my mind. I love laughing at her craziest ideas and her idea that government is a force of good, but some ideas (namely and especially the Department of Peace and extensive VA reforms) are ones I would actually, legitimately support.

She's a patriot, the child of war veterans, and has an endless optimism and compassion for what is right, a strong moral compass, and a rejection of the anti-white, anti-American, and Marxist schools haunting America. She never focuses on identity politics (although she fell for the myth that America has not paid reparations to blacks) and truly believes in making America a greater moral force.

Williamson, while still in favor of baby killing (by that, I mean backing elective abortion, which severely destroys her otherwise golden message of love), does not support dismemberment abortions in the third trimester.

Not only that, she is more sincere than any other politician or wannabe politician in my lifetime. I see her heart of gold, her love and integrity, and her honor, and think "WOW, that is a woman I'd serve" if her politics weren't so hilariously wrong.

Yes, she is a Gnostic. While Gnosticism originally started as "secret knowledge", different versions of it have been public.

If you're interested in exploring Williams as an American neo-Gnostic, you might be interested in reading this.

I think you forgot The Club Penguin Times

I was a lifetime subscriber to the "Club Penguin Times". I never cancelled my subscription; the CP Times simply went out of print.

[Aurevbush]

If it's a local issue relating to something happening in my area, I of course check my local TV news outlet (any one of the Big 3 networks)

For news around the world it's either Reuters, UPI, or AP.

[Australian rePublic]

I usually get most of my news from the radio. Having two minutes-three minutes to say the entire news headlines removes the oppertunity for bias, in my opinion. For example- "Gunman in California (USA) kills 3, police are investigating the motive"- short, sweet and (mostly) no time for bias. If I think it's worthy, I'll look up various sources with no paywalls. I also get my news from random internet sources that I come across. More and more these days, since I've subscribed to more

[The Liberated Territories]

Reason mag

[San Lumen]

Reason mag

Never heard of it

[Bear Stearns]

The Wall Street Journal
Chicago Tribune
The New Yorker
Tucker Carlson Tonight
Sportscenter

[Cekoviu]

Reason mag

Never heard of it

It's a rightlib rag, iirc

[The Liberated Territories]

Reason mag

Never heard of it

This is because I read only the most eclectic and underground of news sources.

Also, Zero Hedge when I am feeling cynical.

[Bear Stearns]

Never heard of it

This is because I read only the most eclectic and underground of news sources.

Also, Zero Hedge when I am feeling cynical.

Zero Hedge is hilarious

[Ethel mermania]

This is because I read only the most eclectic and underground of news sources.

Also, Zero Hedge when I am feeling cynical.

Zero Hedge is hilarious

Indeed, but your bear Stearns, you are suppose to say bloomberg.

[Naustaria]

Reuters. They are the only one I trust.

[Jack Thomas Lang]

For news, ABC and the Guardian.

Sometimes RT or Al Jazeera.

[Rojava Free State]

> NYT ahd PBS are left-wing, CNN is "lunatic left"

I'm sorry, are you okay? Do you need a lesson on the political spectrum? CNN aren't even left-wing, barely centrist, same with NYT. American news is almost entirely either right-wing or centre-right, aligning with the two major parties.

AH HA HA HA!! You think that CNN is, by the American political scale, RIGHTIST, let alone centrist?!

America is a center-right nation. That puts its Overton Window far away from Europe. On the European scale, CNN and NYT are centrist or slightly left-leaning at best. On the European scale, PBS news is centrist.

On the American scale, MSNBC is the farthest-left mainstream channel in the USA.
CNN is as leftist as MSNBC, but it's also psychotic and, unlike MSNBC, doesn't even pretend to try and maintain an illusion of fairness or decency. (Just ask Jim Acosta.)

On the AMERICAN scale, the most centrist of all the left-wing mainstream outlets is ABC, followed by PBS. The hardest right channel is, of course, Fox News.

CNN is only left wing in the sense that they push stories about "first gay trans black jewish pastor at a church in Detroit" and "trump is the devil" all day. But notice how when trump wanted to pull out of syria, they flipped out, and when he bombed Syria a year before, they were saying he was "finally being presidential." Real, actual leftists are usually against foreign wars. War hawks tend to be center-right to far right, whereas leftists tend to either support violent class warfare if they're communist, pacifism or civil disobedience if they're certain anarchist schools of thought, and at least an end to foreign wars if they're bernie sanders or Tulsi Gabbard. CNN is a best friend of the Clinton family, Israel, The forever war, and big business. They aren't leftists. Whether they're left wing by American standards is neither here nor there, because there's a whole world out there that isn't america.

[The Emerald Legion]

AH HA HA HA!! You think that CNN is, by the American political scale, RIGHTIST, let alone centrist?!

America is a center-right nation. That puts its Overton Window far away from Europe. On the European scale, CNN and NYT are centrist or slightly left-leaning at best. On the European scale, PBS news is centrist.

On the American scale, MSNBC is the farthest-left mainstream channel in the USA.
CNN is as leftist as MSNBC, but it's also psychotic and, unlike MSNBC, doesn't even pretend to try and maintain an illusion of fairness or decency. (Just ask Jim Acosta.)

On the AMERICAN scale, the most centrist of all the left-wing mainstream outlets is ABC, followed by PBS. The hardest right channel is, of course, Fox News.

CNN is only left wing in the sense that they push stories about "first gay trans black jewish pastor at a church in Detroit" and "trump is the devil" all day. But notice how when trump wanted to pull out of syria, they flipped out, and when he bombed Syria a year before, they were saying he was "finally being presidential." Real, actual leftists are usually against foreign wars. War hawks tend to be center-right to far right, whereas leftists tend to either support violent class warfare if they're communist, pacifism or civil disobedience if they're certain anarchist schools of thought, and at least an end to foreign wars if they're bernie sanders or Tulsi Gabbard. CNN is a best friend of the Clinton family, Israel, The forever war, and big business. They aren't leftists. Whether they're left wing by American standards is neither here nor there, because there's a whole world out there that isn't america.

And? Can the world forcibly change Americans minds? No.

[San Lumen]

For news, ABC and the Guardian.

Sometimes RT or Al Jazeera.

I primarily watch ABC

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

>NYT ahd PBS are left-wing, CNN is "lunatic left"

I'm sorry, are you ok? Do you need a lesson on the political spectrum? CNN aren't even left-wing, barely centrist, same with NYT. American news is almost entirely either right-wing or centre-right, aligning with the two major parties.

Scales
American Left (Statism; Authoritarianism)<<<<<<<<<<<<<<American Centre (Liberty and Equality; Constitutional Self-Government)>>>>>>>>American Right (Anarchy (bad sense), Lawlessness)
European Left (Communism, International Socialsim)<<<<<<<<<<<<European Centre (Large Welfare State, Some Open Markets)>>>>>>>>>>>European Right (Fascism/National Socialism, Corporatism)

The two scales do not coincide. The European scale pits revolutionary socialism against reactionary dictatorialism and squeezes everyone else in the middle regardless. The American Scale measures external governance verses individual governance. Classical liberalism is the golden mean with paleoliberals being slightly to the left, and paleoconservatives slightly to the right.

The far left relies on the power of the state as part of the order, and the far right on the full autonomy of all individuals apart from order, with a lawful compromise of Liberty and Equality as the golden mean in the centre. On the American Political Scale all forms of Socialism except Anarchism (good sense) are left of centre. This includes all other offshoots of Socialism (Communism, Fascism, Nazism, Fabianism, Progressivism, Syndicalism, etc). It includes proponents of large external government (Statism) to the detriment of Liberty, Equality, and constitutional (little c) Self-Government.

CNN
When the topic is more government, a government program, or to throw someone else's money at the problem CNN reports favorably on the issue. When the topic is on Paleoconservative or Libertarian solutions to problems they almost invariable report the issue unfavorably and at times scathingly. They report all news from a generally Progressivist standpoint, and rarely if ever from a Classical Liberal liberal standpoint which would be slightly to the left. This makes them decidedly Left on the American Spectrum.

CNN's snark hunt of one conspiracy about Trump after another, and their incredible obtuseness of the "Orange Man Bad" -- all-news-all-the-time narrative puts them on par with Infowars, Alex Jones and their seeing conspiracies everywhere. Is Trump a saint? No. Is Trump another Hitler? No. Is he a swaggering obnoxious braggart who has read too much Napoleon Hill? Yes, definitely.

Why I See It That Way
I prefer the Nolan Chart, personally, but most of the American right is amenable in many respects to Objectivism (as they share the same ontology), while the Progressivist left is incompatible with it in nearly every respect except issues of sexuality, but Libertarian journalist sources are few and far between. Statist news sources abound. Neoconservatives are just slow moving Progressivists who speak of an elusive and mythical compassionate Conservatism that doesn't exist.

I live in Middle America in a rural red county in a rural red state that has not been divorced from its heritage, language and culture. We do not have the same worldview in general as most urbanite/suburbanites. Unfortunately the cultural divide has gotten even worse since the beginning of this century, and it seems that it may not end well.

Summary
I consider the purpose of news to gather facts and information so the individual can make up their own mind. It is not narrations to be told what to think (or worse how to feel) about facts and opinions within the confines of an acceptable political doctrine. It takes some effort to bypass the wall if information overload and get to the gist of what is happening.

So, according to your scale, despite being an anarcho-syndicalist, I end up on the far-right?

Ok, I guess...

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

> NYT ahd PBS are left-wing, CNN is "lunatic left"

I'm sorry, are you okay? Do you need a lesson on the political spectrum? CNN aren't even left-wing, barely centrist, same with NYT. American news is almost entirely either right-wing or centre-right, aligning with the two major parties.

AH HA HA HA!! You think that CNN is, by the American political scale, RIGHTIST, let alone centrist?!

America is a center-right nation. That puts its Overton Window far away from Europe. On the European scale, CNN and NYT are centrist or slightly left-leaning at best. On the European scale, PBS news is centrist.

On the American scale, MSNBC is the farthest-left mainstream channel in the USA.
CNN is as leftist as MSNBC, but it's also psychotic and, unlike MSNBC, doesn't even pretend to try and maintain an illusion of fairness or decency. (Just ask Jim Acosta.)

On the AMERICAN scale, the most centrist of all the left-wing mainstream outlets is ABC, followed by PBS. The hardest right channel is, of course, Fox News.

On the European scale, all are centre-right. Full stop.

[Antityranicals]

My primary news source is the Mises Institute. Think what you will about that...

[Rojava Free State]

My primary news source is the Mises Institute. Think what you will about that...

...WHO??

[Naustaria]

My primary news source is the Mises Institute. Think what you will about that...

...WHO??

It's some kind of Austrian economics school in Alabama.

[The World Capitalist Confederation]

...WHO??

It's some kind of Austrian economics school in Alabama.

Austrian AND Alabaman?

INCEST INTENSIFIES

[Sundiata]

PBS.

[Stellonia]

Wii News.

[Peoples Continental Union]

I don't really pay attention to the news, TBH.

It's all propaganda.