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Which Turkey was the best ?

Social Democratic Kemalist Turkey
56
24%
Current Turkey
5
2%
Hatay State
2
1%
Ottoman Empire
44
19%
Anatolian Seljuk
6
3%
Byzantine Empire
79
33%
Latin Empire
14
6%
Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia
6
3%
Hittites
14
6%
Other(Explain)
11
5%
 
Total votes : 237

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:23 am

Survey results promising.How would a social democratic Byzantine be ? :)
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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Dec 08, 2019 3:26 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Saranidia wrote:
You could go to “Sunni and Shia heaven.” As well as Jewish heaven.
How are they mutually exclusive?


Again. 10,000 different faiths. Many, many of which are saying you go to hell if you don't live exclusively by their rules and creeds. Which is impossible to do simultaneously. Born Again protestant fundamentalists in the vein of, say, Jack T. Chick, are very adamant that everyone who doesn't completely belief in their particular set of beliefs to the letter is BBQ material. (This categorally excludes living your life by Muslim/Viking/Buddhist/whatever values).
To name but a single out of myriad examples.


Just what I need, another person who believes that I am BBQ material :(
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Vistulange
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Postby Vistulange » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:06 am

The Blaatschapen wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
Again. 10,000 different faiths. Many, many of which are saying you go to hell if you don't live exclusively by their rules and creeds. Which is impossible to do simultaneously. Born Again protestant fundamentalists in the vein of, say, Jack T. Chick, are very adamant that everyone who doesn't completely belief in their particular set of beliefs to the letter is BBQ material. (This categorally excludes living your life by Muslim/Viking/Buddhist/whatever values).
To name but a single out of myriad examples.


Just what I need, another person who believes that I am BBQ material :(

Unfortunately, Blaat, we Turks love our lamb meat. I cooked some just an hour ago.

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The Blaatschapen
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Postby The Blaatschapen » Sun Dec 08, 2019 4:07 am

Vistulange wrote:
The Blaatschapen wrote:
Just what I need, another person who believes that I am BBQ material :(

Unfortunately, Blaat, we Turks love our lamb meat. I cooked some just an hour ago.


Definitely not my favourite kind of Turkey then :p
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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Dec 08, 2019 7:40 am

Baltenstein wrote:
Saranidia wrote:
You could go to “Sunni and Shia heaven.” As well as Jewish heaven.
How are they mutually exclusive?


Again. 10,000 different faiths. Many, many of which are saying you go to hell if you don't live exclusively by their rules and creeds. Which is impossible to do simultaneously. Born Again protestant fundamentalists in the vein of, say, Jack T. Chick, are very adamant that everyone who doesn't completely belief in their particular set of beliefs to the letter is BBQ material. (This categorally excludes living your life by Muslim/Viking/Buddhist/whatever values).
To name but a single out of myriad examples.


I think it would be ironic if there was a hell but only die hard fundamentalist protestants went there and no one else did. However, as an atheist, I don't think there's a hell at all, and these religious fanatics are wasting their lives for nothing.

I know a guy whos super religious. He's a Chaldean Catholic so he's cool with people of other religions but the moment you

•Are gay
•Say the F word out of context
•Have premarital sex
•Lie
•Do hard drugs

He condemns you to the eternal fires of hell, which according to him are a place with "demons, giant monsters throwing people's souls around, maggots eating out your eyes, people being stabbed in their special parts, and being burned forever." He seems to take a sick pleasure in the torture of hell, knowing people he hates are gonna be put through horrific unimaginable agony forever while they scream endlessly in vain.

Seriously the idea of hell is so evil to me. Condemning people to endless suffering over small things they did in a short period of time as well as things that aren't even bad
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 8:59 am

Byzantines et al aren’t a part of Turkish history.

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Walkerfort
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Postby Walkerfort » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:03 am

any with a side of butter and seasoning
Well... It's been a while.

thinking of reforming my nation

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Rojava Free State
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:25 am

Gorbehstan wrote:Byzantines et al aren’t a part of Turkish history.


Is it really not tho? Most Anatolian Turks are descended from the original byzantines, but after being turkified they speak turkish.

Many a turk are probably descended from the original people of constantinople.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Postby The Noviaskiet » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:32 am

Kemal or Ataturk.
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:40 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:Byzantines et al aren’t a part of Turkish history.


Is it really not tho? Most Anatolian Turks are descended from the original byzantines, but after being turkified they speak turkish.

Many a turk are probably descended from the original people of constantinople.


Yes but people who simply don’t like Turkey would probably pick Byzantines or something.

This is of course less drastic than asking which Taiwan or America do you want. The main difference between pre-Columbian and modern America is racial, not political or cultural.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Sun Dec 08, 2019 9:42 am

Gorbehstan wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is it really not tho? Most Anatolian Turks are descended from the original byzantines, but after being turkified they speak turkish.

Many a turk are probably descended from the original people of constantinople.


Yes but people who simply don’t like Turkey would probably pick Byzantines or something.

This is of course less drastic than asking which Taiwan or America do you want. The main difference between pre-Columbian and modern America is racial, not political or cultural.


Pre Columbian America was a totally different world from modern America
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.

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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:42 am

Gorbehstan wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Is it really not tho? Most Anatolian Turks are descended from the original byzantines, but after being turkified they speak turkish.

Many a turk are probably descended from the original people of constantinople.


Yes but people who simply don’t like Turkey would probably pick Byzantines or something.

This is of course less drastic than asking which Taiwan or America do you want. The main difference between pre-Columbian and modern America is racial, not political or cultural.
I don't understand people who don't like the country.I think it's more logical not to like the country's policy
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:52 am

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:
Yes but people who simply don’t like Turkey would probably pick Byzantines or something.

This is of course less drastic than asking which Taiwan or America do you want. The main difference between pre-Columbian and modern America is racial, not political or cultural.
I don't understand people who don't like the country.I think it's more logical not to like the country's policy


Some people simply hate Turks.

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Postby Gun Manufacturers » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:53 am

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You lost me at "cranberry sauce".
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Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum
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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Dec 08, 2019 11:58 am

Gorbehstan wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I don't understand people who don't like the country.I think it's more logical not to like the country's policy


Some people simply hate Turks.
Racist people are always bad.I just pity the racists,Hand in hand for the best world :)
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Postby Asherahan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:02 pm

Hittites because I am a Greek who is still butthurt about the 400 years of occupation and the atrocities the turks committed on my people.

Also no such thing as Byzantine existed only the Romans did.
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Postby Diarcesia » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:13 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:I don't understand people who don't like the country.I think it's more logical not to like the country's policy


Some people simply hate Turks.


The Turks are simply unfortunate enough to put Byzantium out of its misery. Imagine if Attila did it: the hate would be directed to the Hungarians.

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Postby Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:15 pm

Asherahan wrote:Hittites because I am a Greek who is still butthurt about the 400 years of occupation and the atrocities the Turks committed on my people.
There's always violence in a place where people are.I am Turkish and believe in the world brotherhood,don't you think it's weird that you don't love me ?

Diarcesia wrote:
Gorbehstan wrote:
Some people simply hate Turks.


The Turks are simply unfortunate enough to put Byzantium out of its misery. Imagine if Attila did it: the hate would be directed to the Hungarians.
Is it possible that every hungarian is bad, please put your hand on your conscience :unsure:
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:18 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Seriously the idea of hell is so evil to me. Condemning people to endless suffering over small things they did in a short period of time as well as things that aren't even bad


It's not so much evil as basic pedagogy. Do good things, get a reward, do bad things, get punished. Do really bad things, get super-punished.

It's not really different from how most, if not all, modes of human coexistence work.
O'er the hills and o'er the main.
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King George commands and we obey.
Over the hills and far away.


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Postby Asherahan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:23 pm

Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:
Asherahan wrote:Hittites because I am a Greek who is still butthurt about the 400 years of occupation and the atrocities the Turks committed on my people.
There's always violence in a place where people are.I am Turkish and believe in the world brotherhood,don't you think it's weird that you don't love me ?

Do not believe the media about any misconception that our peoples are friends if we were able to throw Turkey out eastern Thrace and Anatolia like we tried in the 1920s we would do it in a heartbeat.

Plus Cyrpus we ain't ever forgetting Attila II.

The political leadership of Turkey knows this and has dropped all pretense of friendship recently from their rhetoric.
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Postby Gorbehstan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:26 pm

Baltenstein wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Seriously the idea of hell is so evil to me. Condemning people to endless suffering over small things they did in a short period of time as well as things that aren't even bad


It's not so much evil as basic pedagogy. Do good things, get a reward, do bad things, get punished. Do really bad things, get super-punished.

It's not really different from how most, if not all, modes of human coexistence work.

Why does Sinostatism exist then? There were few people worse than Zhu Yuanzhang and his cannibalistic bandits. Why the fuck did such a person who was completely lawless rule over so many people?
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Postby Cetacea » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:27 pm

I remember that the Hattians threw a few good parties, except of course when Sargon and his sons in Akkad would come over and complain about the noise. Thats all before the Hitties arrived to evict the lot of us, but at least they still called it the Land of Hatti

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Postby Dogmeat » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:28 pm

Why is the Rûm always gone?
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Postby Baltenstein » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:32 pm

Gorbehstan wrote:
Baltenstein wrote:
It's not so much evil as basic pedagogy. Do good things, get a reward, do bad things, get punished. Do really bad things, get super-punished.

It's not really different from how most, if not all, modes of human coexistence work.

Why does Sinostatism exist then?


I had to look up Sinostatism. It gave me 2 results, one of which was NSG, the other being /pol/.

I assume you are referring to the PRC?
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Postby Asherahan » Sun Dec 08, 2019 12:34 pm

Dogmeat wrote:Why is the Rûm always gone?

Because of identity crises of a bunch of Turks actively calling themselves Romans we consider this not a applicable Turkic Nation.
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