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by Vassenor » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:41 am
by Infected Mushroom » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:45 am
Samadhi wrote:Infected Mushroom wrote:I believe that this lawsuit by Zimmerman is a way for him to try and avenge his honor. His honor and his reputation was attacked by an entire government and at the behest of private parties for years, people literally said to him "You are a murderer, we will prove it and you will suffer." They failed to achieve this but they sure as hell tried. An extraordinary amount of damage was nevertheless done to his standing.
Now under the current system, what is Zimmerman going to do? A lawsuit is one way for him to try and vindicate himself and restore his honor.
This is Zimmerman trying to exorcise some of his anger at the injustices that he has suffered, this is him saying, "it's not enough that I was cleared of all charges, I was wronged, I want to hit back, the other party will know... you do not mess with the Zimmerman."
And it's 100% understandable.
And I think Zimmerman knows that he might lose this lawsuit, but he's okay with it. At the end of the day he can say, "well at least I tried. I gave it my best shot. I tried to fight back and I'm sure the other side understands the gesture." There's value in that.
Is your honor in the room with you right now?
Does it tell you to kill black people?
by Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 am
by Page » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:10 am
by Samadhi » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:32 am
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:57 am
Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.
Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.
This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.
If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.
Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.
Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.
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by Fartsniffage » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:46 am
Des-Bal wrote:Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.
He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.
This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.
If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.
Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.
Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.
Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.
by Grinning Dragon » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:53 am
Fartsniffage wrote:Des-Bal wrote:
He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.
Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.
So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?
by Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:59 am
Grinning Dragon wrote:Fartsniffage wrote:
So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?
No, you would be the aggressor, unless there was some sort of extenuating circumstance in which you went from aggressor to defender and killed in self defense
Zimmerman didn't lay a hand on Trayvon, Trayvon was the aggressor and blindsided Zimmerman.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:02 am
Fartsniffage wrote:
So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
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Mindset: Logos
by Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:05 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:07 am
Rojava Free State wrote:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman
Just gonna post this article on the zimm. You know he has a history of violence
Rojava Free State wrote:No he didn't blindside zimmerman. Zimmerman followed him through the streets and ended up having a confrontation with him and when he started losing the fight, he pulled his gun like a bitch and fired. Trayvon may have struck first, we don't know. But Zimmerman wasn't blindsided. The whole situation started cause he had to go and follow trayvon when they told him don't
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:09 am
Des-Bal wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman
Just gonna post this article on the zimm. You know he has a history of violence
Which means he has no right to self defense.Rojava Free State wrote:No he didn't blindside zimmerman. Zimmerman followed him through the streets and ended up having a confrontation with him and when he started losing the fight, he pulled his gun like a bitch and fired. Trayvon may have struck first, we don't know. But Zimmerman wasn't blindsided. The whole situation started cause he had to go and follow trayvon when they told him don't
Then outlaw disregarding advice and lay your bullshit on the next guy.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by Cantelo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:10 am
Rojava Free State wrote:
Sheesh racist much? And as for the Spanish dude, I won't deny you look white as possible, but there's also plenty of dark colored castillians too my man. It's a variable look, that of a Hispanic including Spaniards
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by Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:12 am
Cantelo wrote:Rojava Free State wrote:
Sheesh racist much? And as for the Spanish dude, I won't deny you look white as possible, but there's also plenty of dark colored castillians too my man. It's a variable look, that of a Hispanic including Spaniards
I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.
Rojava Free State wrote:Listen yall. I'm only gonna say it once but I want you to remember it. This ain't a world fit for good men. It seems like you gotta be monstrous just to make it. Gotta have a little bit of darkness within you just to survive. You gotta stoop low everyday it seems like. Stoop all the way down to the devil in these times. And then one day you look in the mirror and you realize that you ain't you anymore. You're just another monster, and thanks to your actions, someone else will eventually become as warped and twisted as you. Never forget that the best of us are just the best of a bad lot. Being at the top of a pile of feces doesn't make you anything but shit like the rest. Never forget that.
by The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am
Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.
This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.
If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.
Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.
Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am
Rojava Free State wrote:
Was it that hard for zimmerman to just listen and not follow trayvon? I mean seriously the guy put himself in that situation and I'm supposed to feel bad for him, especially now that he sues the family of the guy he shot?
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Mindset: Logos
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:19 am
The East Marches II wrote:
Sounds like the prosecutors and the media fucked up an ez case. I'm glad though we don't mickey mouse somebody if they won their battle in court. The courts again will decide how this business goes.
Rojava Free State wrote:Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
Public perception: Neutral-positive - blunt, cold, logical, skilled at debating
Mindset: Logos
by The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:24 am
Des-Bal wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
Sounds like the prosecutors and the media fucked up an ez case. I'm glad though we don't mickey mouse somebody if they won their battle in court. The courts again will decide how this business goes.
It was a very easy case, that's why it wasn't going to go to trial.
by Aclion » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:28 am
by Cantelo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:28 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Cantelo wrote:
I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.
Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders
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by Chernoslavia » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:30 am
Des-Bal wrote:Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.
He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.
This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.
If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.
Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.
Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.
Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.
by The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:32 am
Aclion wrote:The East Marches II wrote:
I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.
https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/us/j ... death.html
pretty hard to find sources from 7 years ago so I hope your not vassenoring.
by Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:33 am
The East Marches II wrote:
I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.
Cekoviu wrote:DES-BAL: Introverted, blunt, focused, utilitarian. Hard to read; not verbose online or likely in real life. Places little emphasis on interpersonal relationships, particularly with online strangers for whom the investment would outweigh the returns.
Desired perception: Logical, intellectual
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Mindset: Logos
by Chernoslavia » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:34 am
Rojava Free State wrote:Cantelo wrote:
I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.
Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders
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