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I think..

..he was guilty and he should not do this
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62%
..he was not guilty but he still shouldn't do this
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..he was guilty but he should do this
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..he was not guilty and should totally do this
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Postby Vassenor » Thu Dec 05, 2019 12:41 am

So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.
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Postby Infected Mushroom » Thu Dec 05, 2019 1:45 am

Samadhi wrote:
Infected Mushroom wrote:I believe that this lawsuit by Zimmerman is a way for him to try and avenge his honor. His honor and his reputation was attacked by an entire government and at the behest of private parties for years, people literally said to him "You are a murderer, we will prove it and you will suffer." They failed to achieve this but they sure as hell tried. An extraordinary amount of damage was nevertheless done to his standing.

Now under the current system, what is Zimmerman going to do? A lawsuit is one way for him to try and vindicate himself and restore his honor.

This is Zimmerman trying to exorcise some of his anger at the injustices that he has suffered, this is him saying, "it's not enough that I was cleared of all charges, I was wronged, I want to hit back, the other party will know... you do not mess with the Zimmerman."

And it's 100% understandable.

And I think Zimmerman knows that he might lose this lawsuit, but he's okay with it. At the end of the day he can say, "well at least I tried. I gave it my best shot. I tried to fight back and I'm sure the other side understands the gesture." There's value in that.


Is your honor in the room with you right now?

Does it tell you to kill black people?


It’s my understanding that he was found innocent.

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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Thu Dec 05, 2019 2:23 am

Playing to type. Whether right or wrong, Zimmerman will always give it a shot.
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Postby Page » Thu Dec 05, 2019 3:10 am

Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.

This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.

If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.

Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.

Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.
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Postby Samadhi » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:32 am

Infected Mushroom wrote:
Samadhi wrote:
Is your honor in the room with you right now?

Does it tell you to kill black people?


It’s my understanding that he was found innocent.


And that has nothing to do with anything, especially delusional and mentally ill concepts like honor.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 4:57 am

Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.


He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.

Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.

This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.

If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.

Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.

Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.


Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:46 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.


He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.

Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.

This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.

If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.

Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.

Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.


Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.


So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?

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Postby Grinning Dragon » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:53 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.



Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.


So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?

No, you would be the aggressor, unless there was some sort of extenuating circumstance in which you went from aggressor to defender and killed in self defense
Zimmerman didn't lay a hand on Trayvon, Trayvon was the aggressor and blindsided Zimmerman.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 5:59 am

Grinning Dragon wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?

No, you would be the aggressor, unless there was some sort of extenuating circumstance in which you went from aggressor to defender and killed in self defense
Zimmerman didn't lay a hand on Trayvon, Trayvon was the aggressor and blindsided Zimmerman.


No he didn't blindside zimmerman. Zimmerman followed him through the streets and ended up having a confrontation with him and when he started losing the fight, he pulled his gun like a bitch and fired. Trayvon may have struck first, we don't know. But Zimmerman wasn't blindsided. The whole situation started cause he had to go and follow trayvon when they told him don't
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:02 am

Fartsniffage wrote:
So if I walk up to someone and punch them in the face, if they punch me back I'm legally in the clear to pull out a gun and shoot them dead?



Do you know why your example features ILLEGAL conduct despite the fact my pronouncement was about LAWFUL conduct? Because I'm right, you know it, and there's no denying it. You can't pull reductio ad absurdum on my position because it's consistent and logical but you're presenting hypotheticals that explicitly don't fit in the frantic hope I either won't respond or won't notice the nonsense.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:05 am

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman

Just gonna post this article on the zimm. You know he has a history of violence
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:07 am

Rojava Free State wrote:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman

Just gonna post this article on the zimm. You know he has a history of violence


Which means he has no right to self defense.


Rojava Free State wrote:No he didn't blindside zimmerman. Zimmerman followed him through the streets and ended up having a confrontation with him and when he started losing the fight, he pulled his gun like a bitch and fired. Trayvon may have struck first, we don't know. But Zimmerman wasn't blindsided. The whole situation started cause he had to go and follow trayvon when they told him don't


Then outlaw disregarding advice and lay your bullshit on the next guy.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:09 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Zimmerman

Just gonna post this article on the zimm. You know he has a history of violence


Which means he has no right to self defense.


Rojava Free State wrote:No he didn't blindside zimmerman. Zimmerman followed him through the streets and ended up having a confrontation with him and when he started losing the fight, he pulled his gun like a bitch and fired. Trayvon may have struck first, we don't know. But Zimmerman wasn't blindsided. The whole situation started cause he had to go and follow trayvon when they told him don't


Then outlaw disregarding advice and lay your bullshit on the next guy.


Was it that hard for zimmerman to just listen and not follow trayvon? I mean seriously the guy put himself in that situation and I'm supposed to feel bad for him, especially now that he sues the family of the guy he shot?
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Postby Cantelo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:10 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Samadhi wrote:

Didn't he kill a black person, because that sounds like something white people do.


Sheesh racist much? And as for the Spanish dude, I won't deny you look white as possible, but there's also plenty of dark colored castillians too my man. It's a variable look, that of a Hispanic including Spaniards


I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:12 am

Cantelo wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Sheesh racist much? And as for the Spanish dude, I won't deny you look white as possible, but there's also plenty of dark colored castillians too my man. It's a variable look, that of a Hispanic including Spaniards


I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.


Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am

Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.

This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.

If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.

Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.

Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.


Sounds like the prosecutors and the media fucked up an ez case. I'm glad though we don't mickey mouse somebody if they won their battle in court. The courts again will decide how this business goes.

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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:17 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Was it that hard for zimmerman to just listen and not follow trayvon? I mean seriously the guy put himself in that situation and I'm supposed to feel bad for him, especially now that he sues the family of the guy he shot?



It doesn't matter. It doesn't how "hard" it is to listen to suggestions. His behavior was lawful and he had the right of self defense.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:19 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Sounds like the prosecutors and the media fucked up an ez case. I'm glad though we don't mickey mouse somebody if they won their battle in court. The courts again will decide how this business goes.


It was a very easy case, that's why it wasn't going to go to trial.

Rojava Free State wrote:Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders


George Zimmerman looks about as white as Cheech Marin.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:24 am

Des-Bal wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
Sounds like the prosecutors and the media fucked up an ez case. I'm glad though we don't mickey mouse somebody if they won their battle in court. The courts again will decide how this business goes.


It was a very easy case, that's why it wasn't going to go to trial.


I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.

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Postby Aclion » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:28 am

The East Marches II wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
It was a very easy case, that's why it wasn't going to go to trial.


I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/us/j ... death.html
pretty hard to find sources from 7 years ago so I hope your not vassenoring.
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Postby Cantelo » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:28 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cantelo wrote:
I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.


Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders


George Lopez and George Zimmerman are on the same spectrum, just that Lopez looks way more Amerindian. In my opinion, Zimmerman just doesn't pass as white. He looks like an obvious mestizo to me.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:30 am

Des-Bal wrote:
Vassenor wrote:So basically Zimmerman blew through the $250K he got from auctioning off his gun to white nationalists and decided he needs to torture the family for more.


He didn't "blow throrugh it" the sale was a bid to alleviate a tiny portion of the massive debt he incurred as a result of being innocent of a charge.

Page wrote:Zimmerman has consistently revealed himself to be a piece of shit ever since his acquittal. As soon as he got that verdict he cast aside his timid fat man facade and showed his true colors. Let's not forget this man has attempted to profit from the murder, he is abusive to women, and he revels in the attention of racists.

This whole thing was a travesty and I do not believe what so many others do, that the problem was Florida's Stand Your Ground Law. The problem is ignorance of the fact that the right belongs to the victim, not the aggressor.

If a man is attempting to rape a woman and she pulls out a knife and stabs him, that does not give him the right to shoot her. It matters not that he fears for his life for he is the aggressor.

Whatever force Trayvon used is irrelevant because he was the victim, defending himself from a dangerous man who stalked him on a dark street and got out of his truck to pursue him. Zimmerman showed those scrapes on his head to excuse his actions, but that shouldn't have mattered. Trayvon was standing his ground.

Zimmerman may not have been a rapist but he went after a young man in a similar mindset to a rapist - he targeted a victim that he wanted to control in dominate. Trayvon did what he felt necessary to defend himself and had he killed Zimmerman, he is the one who should have been protected by the law. Instead, Zimmerman got away with murder.


Bullshit. Utter, fucking, bullshit. Lawful conduct does not terminate your right to self-defense, the fact that you disagree with someone's actions doesn't mean they have to politely sit still while they're beaten to death.


Coming from the guy who literally told me I had no right to self defense when I get punched. Just shut up.
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Postby The East Marches II » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:32 am

Aclion wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.

https://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/17/us/j ... death.html
pretty hard to find sources from 7 years ago so I hope your not vassenoring.


My good man, I can assure when I ask for proofs, it's always in good faith and I do not flee when they may contradict my worldview. It seems motivated by the political situation in such a case. I'm glad the jury then did its job and didn't cave under political pressure.
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Postby Des-Bal » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:33 am

The East Marches II wrote:
I wasn't around for that whole business. Do you have some proofs on the matter? I'm willing to change my mind if evidence is presented.


I'm not doing legwork, check the wikipedia article. Zimmerman was not arrested after the shooting and was never going to be charged because absolutely nothing suggested the case was anything but clear cut self-defense. The police made clear he had a right to defend himself and the matter would have been closed if not for weeks of backlash playing up the racial angle until the governer sicced a special prosecutor on him to shut people up.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Thu Dec 05, 2019 6:34 am

Rojava Free State wrote:
Cantelo wrote:
I'm actually a girl, but I've never seen a Spaniard that looks like Zimmerman. It's in his eyes and nose, skin color doesn't really matter a whole lot because one can be naturally dark yet still be considered white/caucasian.


Well yeah I mean like me. The point is zimmerman in my opinion still looks within the realm of a caucasian. If you wanna see someone who definitely isn't white, George Lopez is the guy. But that's just my opinion, race is after all a fluid concept with no defined borders


Dude I know people who are straight from freaking Peru who looks like Zimmerman. There ain’t no white in him that’s obviously distinguishable.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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