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by Bear Stearns » Tue Dec 10, 2019 2:17 pm
by Adamantaean Magocrate » Tue Dec 10, 2019 3:28 pm
SD_Film Artists wrote:If you doxx someone then you become an even bigger asshole.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Tue Dec 10, 2019 8:34 pm
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Adamantaean Magocrate » Tue Dec 10, 2019 11:45 pm
by SD_Film Artists » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:17 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:We've tried using the soft gloves on Internet trolls, and they've been emboldened to resort to more drastic methods like hacking, etc... time to slam down.
by Andsed » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:58 am
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:SD_Film Artists wrote:
I agree, and I say that as someone who is autistic and thus a likely target of said assholes. If you doxx someone then you become an even bigger asshole.
Autism doesn't make you any less credible on right and wrong, but it doesn't make you more credible either. We've tried using the soft gloves on Internet trolls, and they've been emboldened to resort to more drastic methods like hacking, etc... time to slam down.
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:39 pm
Andsed wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Autism doesn't make you any less credible on right and wrong, but it doesn't make you more credible either. We've tried using the soft gloves on Internet trolls, and they've been emboldened to resort to more drastic methods like hacking, etc... time to slam down.
Nah. Doxxing people and probably messing up their lives for being trolls on the internet is not okay. Banning them works just fine.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Propheticum » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:25 pm
by Andsed » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:28 am
by Telconi » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:34 am
Andsed wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Banning them outsources the problem elsewhere. Doxxing them cuts it off at the source.
Yeah by opening up that troll(and those close to them) to IRL harassment. Doxxing someone because they were an asshole online is far to extreme. Banning them works just fine, there is no reason to doxx the trolls. Two wrongs do not make a right and it is absurd to try and pretend it does.
Propheticum wrote: What are you going to do? Dox some dude in Tanna Tuva because some Brit who spent 9.99 on NordVPN clowned you?
by Andsed » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:55 am
Telconi wrote:Andsed wrote:Yeah by opening up that troll(and those close to them) to IRL harassment. Doxxing someone because they were an asshole online is far to extreme. Banning them works just fine, there is no reason to doxx the trolls. Two wrongs do not make a right and it is absurd to try and pretend it does.
Nothing wrong with people facing the eminent consequences for their actions.Propheticum wrote: What are you going to do? Dox some dude in Tanna Tuva because some Brit who spent 9.99 on NordVPN clowned you?
Tannu what?
by Telconi » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:57 am
by Andsed » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:08 am
Telconi wrote:Andsed wrote:Just because someone is an asshole online does not mean they deserve to be harassed IRL.
How are people going to learn to stop being assholes unless we as a society pointedly dissaprova of them being assholes. Also the whole IRL thing is foolish, the internet isn't fucking Narnis.
by Telconi » Fri Dec 13, 2019 5:13 am
Andsed wrote:Telconi wrote:
How are people going to learn to stop being assholes unless we as a society pointedly dissaprova of them being assholes. Also the whole IRL thing is foolish, the internet isn't fucking Narnis.
By growing up, most of these trolls are probably just teens trying to be edgy and offensive. Most of them will mature and for the ones who don’t then banning them works just fine, no need to expose them to potential (irl, people on the internet will go that far) harassment.
by Propheticum » Fri Dec 13, 2019 6:08 am
Telconi wrote:Andsed wrote:By growing up, most of these trolls are probably just teens trying to be edgy and offensive. Most of them will mature and for the ones who don’t then banning them works just fine, no need to expose them to potential (irl, people on the internet will go that far) harassment.
Growing up is a matter of external force. People don't just magically stop being assholes unless there are negative repercussions to being an asshole.
by Telconi » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:23 pm
Propheticum wrote:Telconi wrote:
Growing up is a matter of external force. People don't just magically stop being assholes unless there are negative repercussions to being an asshole.
Ah yes. Lets ruin a teens life because they said something mean to a boomer online.
Put on some white makeup, a rainbow afro, some giant shoes, and a red nose, because you're a clown.
If people were dumb enough to listen to what you've suggested, Amanda Todd would look like a fucking noob.
by Salus Maior » Fri Dec 13, 2019 2:36 pm
by LimaUniformNovemberAlpha » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:54 pm
Andsed wrote:Telconi wrote:
How are people going to learn to stop being assholes unless we as a society pointedly dissaprova of them being assholes. Also the whole IRL thing is foolish, the internet isn't fucking Narnis.
By growing up, most of these trolls are probably just teens trying to be edgy and offensive. Most of them will mature and for the ones who don’t then banning them works just fine, no need to expose them to potential (irl, people on the internet will go that far) harassment.
Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:1. The PRC is not a Communist State, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
2. The CCP is not a Communist Party, as it has shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
3. Xi Jinping and his cronies are not Communists, as they have shown absolutely zero interest in achieving Communism.
How do we know this? Because the first step toward Communism is Socialism, and none of the aforementioned are even remotely Socialist in any way, shape, or form.
by Andsed » Fri Dec 13, 2019 3:58 pm
LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:Andsed wrote:By growing up, most of these trolls are probably just teens trying to be edgy and offensive. Most of them will mature and for the ones who don’t then banning them works just fine, no need to expose them to potential (irl, people on the internet will go that far) harassment.
How is that fair to people who, even in their teen years, knew right from wrong? Do they get nothing for this?
by Telconi » Fri Dec 13, 2019 4:24 pm
Andsed wrote:LimaUniformNovemberAlpha wrote:How is that fair to people who, even in their teen years, knew right from wrong? Do they get nothing for this?
Nope. Being mature is not something we need to reward. Just like how there is no need to doxx someone(and likely expose them to IRL harassment) for being immature and trolling. Banning works just fine, no need to doxx people.
by Propheticum » Fri Dec 13, 2019 7:30 pm
Telconi wrote:Andsed wrote:Nope. Being mature is not something we need to reward. Just like how there is no need to doxx someone(and likely expose them to IRL harassment) for being immature and trolling. Banning works just fine, no need to doxx people.
You say banning works just fine, but I'm curious if we have any actual indication of this.
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