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What could have altered Chris Chan's life for the better?

Better special education within his school district
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Parents having a greater understanding of autism
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Not being constantly attacked online without mercy
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Nothing could have prevented what has become of him
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16%
The horror is too much for me to bare
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13%
 
Total votes : 214

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Postby The Holy Therns » Sat Feb 15, 2020 6:44 am

Red Roja wrote:In one of his old online video chats, Chris tried to show the trolls one of his cats but the cat instantly growled and scurried away when Chris tried to pick it up. Knowing the kind of person Chris is, it frightens me to think of why the cat was so scared of him.


I don't think anyone in that household has or had the responsibility necessary to take care of a cat, let alone several.
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Feb 15, 2020 7:19 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Red Roja wrote:In one of his old online video chats, Chris tried to show the trolls one of his cats but the cat instantly growled and scurried away when Chris tried to pick it up. Knowing the kind of person Chris is, it frightens me to think of why the cat was so scared of him.


I don't think anyone in that household has or had the responsibility necessary to take care of a cat, let alone several.

I would not be surprised if he took "A Cat is fine too" seriously.
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Postby Red Roja » Sat Feb 15, 2020 9:48 am

The Holy Therns wrote:
Red Roja wrote:In one of his old online video chats, Chris tried to show the trolls one of his cats but the cat instantly growled and scurried away when Chris tried to pick it up. Knowing the kind of person Chris is, it frightens me to think of why the cat was so scared of him.


I don't think anyone in that household has or had the responsibility necessary to take care of a cat, let alone several.


It's a known fact that the Chandlers are incapable of taking care of their animals. On several occasions, they have taken in stray cats only for them to mysteriously die or get really sick shortly after. God knows what Chris does with them.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Sat Feb 15, 2020 8:08 pm

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sA4RHnSpFw

And now Christian Weston chandler has decided to become an animal abuser
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Postby Red Roja » Sat Feb 15, 2020 10:11 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sA4RHnSpFw

And now Christian Weston chandler has decided to become an animal abuser


Not surprised, sadly. One of these days, someone is going to beat the shit out of Chris and I will not have an ounce of pity for him. I am actually surprised that the people of Ruckersville haven't gotten together to run Chris and Barb out of town. They have got to be the most hated people in that little community.
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Postby Red Roja » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:37 am

Political Geography wrote:
Red Roja wrote:
It's a known fact that the Chandlers are incapable of taking care of their animals. On several occasions, they have taken in stray cats only for them to mysteriously die or get really sick shortly after. God knows what Chris does with them.


Something catastrophic?


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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:50 am

Red Roja wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sA4RHnSpFw

And now Christian Weston chandler has decided to become an animal abuser


Not surprised, sadly. One of these days, someone is going to beat the shit out of Chris and I will not have an ounce of pity for him. I am actually surprised that the people of Ruckersville haven't gotten together to run Chris and Barb out of town. They have got to be the most hated people in that little community.


Why run them out? They too need a place to live.
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Postby Red Roja » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:55 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Red Roja wrote:
Not surprised, sadly. One of these days, someone is going to beat the shit out of Chris and I will not have an ounce of pity for him. I am actually surprised that the people of Ruckersville haven't gotten together to run Chris and Barb out of town. They have got to be the most hated people in that little community.


Why run them out? They too need a place to live.


Considering that Barb once tried to kidnap a neighbor's dog and that Chris called animal control on a neighbor's cat (he had a feud with their pre-teen daughter) and had it put to sleep on a dubious charge, it would be good riddance.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:57 am

Red Roja wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Why run them out? They too need a place to live.


Considering that Barb once tried to kidnap a neighbor's dog and that Chris called animal control on a neighbor's cat (he had a feud with their pre-teen daughter) and had it put to sleep on a dubious charge, it would be good riddance.


I just think it’s a little uncalled for wishing them ill. That’s all. Whatever Chris has done or not, it’s a bit of mob mentality to hope the town runs them off. Come on.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:57 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Red Roja wrote:
Not surprised, sadly. One of these days, someone is going to beat the shit out of Chris and I will not have an ounce of pity for him. I am actually surprised that the people of Ruckersville haven't gotten together to run Chris and Barb out of town. They have got to be the most hated people in that little community.


Why run them out? They too need a place to live.


Persistent antisocial behaviour can make neighbours' lives a nightmare. Sympathy has to run both ways, and when you plainly can't "fix" someone there's always a point where the interests of the many outweigh the few.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:58 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Why run them out? They too need a place to live.


Persistent antisocial behaviour can make neighbour's lives a nightmare. When you plainly can't "fix" someone there's always a point where the interests of the many just have to outweigh the few.


Sure, but run them out of home? Just have the state step in and put Chris on an institution in this case. She needs help.
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Postby Dumb Ideologies » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:01 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Persistent antisocial behaviour can make neighbour's lives a nightmare. When you plainly can't "fix" someone there's always a point where the interests of the many just have to outweigh the few.


Sure, but run them out of home? Just have the state step in and put Chris on an institution in this case. She needs help.


Ideally so, absolutely, but many places don't have such facilities available or they're so underfunded that they're resistant to taking new people.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:05 am

Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Sure, but run them out of home? Just have the state step in and put Chris on an institution in this case. She needs help.


Ideally so, absolutely, but many places don't have such facilities available or they're so underfunded that they're resistant to taking new people.


States are known to step in when enough pressure is applied. I think that instead of inciting the community to run them out of their home and town, it would be better to apply pressure on the state to take Chris away and give her the treatment she needs. She’s a danger to herself and possibly others.

I have no sympathy for her or her actions but I think it’s best to appeal the state to step in here. This situation merits it.
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Postby Albrenia » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:09 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Ideally so, absolutely, but many places don't have such facilities available or they're so underfunded that they're resistant to taking new people.


States are known to step in when enough pressure is applied. I think that instead of inciting the community to run them out of their home and town, it would be better to apply pressure on the state to take Chris away and give her the treatment she needs. She’s a danger to herself and possibly others.

I have no sympathy for her or her actions but I think it’s best to appeal the state to step in here. This situation merits it.


Who knows, maybe proper treatment being enforced upon Chris and removing them from the influence of the slime of the internet might give Chris a chance at something vaguely resembling a happy existence.

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Postby Red Roja » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:14 am

Albrenia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
States are known to step in when enough pressure is applied. I think that instead of inciting the community to run them out of their home and town, it would be better to apply pressure on the state to take Chris away and give her the treatment she needs. She’s a danger to herself and possibly others.

I have no sympathy for her or her actions but I think it’s best to appeal the state to step in here. This situation merits it.


Who knows, maybe proper treatment being enforced upon Chris and removing them from the influence of the slime of the internet might give Chris a chance at something vaguely resembling a happy existence.


The guy was already a horrible, cringy person long before his discovery on the internet. Long before his infamy, he had already been banned from several places, been arrested multiple times, and suspended from PVCC after he threatened the dean.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:15 am

Albrenia wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
States are known to step in when enough pressure is applied. I think that instead of inciting the community to run them out of their home and town, it would be better to apply pressure on the state to take Chris away and give her the treatment she needs. She’s a danger to herself and possibly others.

I have no sympathy for her or her actions but I think it’s best to appeal the state to step in here. This situation merits it.


Who knows, maybe proper treatment being enforced upon Chris and removing them from the influence of the slime of the internet might give Chris a chance at something vaguely resembling a happy existence.


It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.
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Postby Imperial Joseon » Sun Feb 16, 2020 4:28 am

There needs to be better funding on mental illnesses. That's all I'm going to say.
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Postby The Holy Therns » Sun Feb 16, 2020 6:05 am

Red Roja wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0sA4RHnSpFw

And now Christian Weston chandler has decided to become an animal abuser


Not surprised, sadly. One of these days, someone is going to beat the shit out of Chris and I will not have an ounce of pity for him. I am actually surprised that the people of Ruckersville haven't gotten together to run Chris and Barb out of town. They have got to be the most hated people in that little community.


I kinda doubt they're that much noticed, locally.
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Postby Gormwood » Sun Feb 16, 2020 10:58 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Who knows, maybe proper treatment being enforced upon Chris and removing them from the influence of the slime of the internet might give Chris a chance at something vaguely resembling a happy existence.


It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.

Genuine transgenders have an awareness from an early age that something about themselves don't feel "right". I assume with Chandler this is another phase of his attention whoring and/or mental breakdown.
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Postby Minoa » Sun Feb 16, 2020 11:20 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Albrenia wrote:
Who knows, maybe proper treatment being enforced upon Chris and removing them from the influence of the slime of the internet might give Chris a chance at something vaguely resembling a happy existence.


It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.

It really depends on how strong the safety net is in the United States: if I recall correctly, it varies from state to state, and I think the Federal Government has guidelines based on what we call care in the community, where there are restrictions on involuntary hospitalisation of people with severe mental health problems.
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Postby Czechoslovakia and Zakarpatia » Sun Feb 16, 2020 2:11 pm

Minoa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.

It really depends on how strong the safety net is in the United States: if I recall correctly, it varies from state to state, and I think the Federal Government has guidelines based on what we call care in the community, where there are restrictions on involuntary hospitalisation of people with severe mental health problems.

Considering that the United States is known to be a utter dick to the poor segments of their society (Especially those who have mental disorders), and the fact they have one of the worst and most underfunded social welfare systems of the developed western world, Chris would definitely not be effectively rehabilitated in the hands of the U.S. state. If he lived in Canada, Western Europe, New Zealand or the Nordic countries, his prospects would have been much better.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:35 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.

Genuine transgenders have an awareness from an early age that something about themselves don't feel "right". I assume with Chandler this is another phase of his attention whoring and/or mental breakdown.


It’s a distinct possibility but, regardless of that, if she’s wanting to be addressed as a she, I’ll address her as such.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Sun Feb 16, 2020 3:37 pm

Minoa wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s possible. That way at least if her mom dies any time soon, she’ll be contained and hopefully helped.

It really depends on how strong the safety net is in the United States: if I recall correctly, it varies from state to state, and I think the Federal Government has guidelines based on what we call care in the community, where there are restrictions on involuntary hospitalisation of people with severe mental health problems.


I think Chris is in Virginia.
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Postby Red Roja » Mon Feb 17, 2020 3:47 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Genuine transgenders have an awareness from an early age that something about themselves don't feel "right". I assume with Chandler this is another phase of his attention whoring and/or mental breakdown.


It’s a distinct possibility but, regardless of that, if she’s wanting to be addressed as a she, I’ll address her as such.


Considering all the horrible things Chris has done, he deserves no such respect.

Looking at your posts, you seem to be under the assumption that Chris is the way he is because of online bullying and his mental problems. First, Chris was a horrible and cringy person long before the trolling even started. In the many years prior to his discovery by the trolls, Chris had already been banned from multiple places for his creepy behavior, been arrested multiple times for trespassing, solicitation, harassment, and threatening people, and been suspended from his college when he threatened the dean. The only reason he was bullied so much online is because he is such a horrible person in the first place and people felt that he deserved it. Especially after he plastered that pornographic drawing of his friend Megan all over the internet, threatened to rape her, and doxxed her.

His mental health is certainly no excuse either. First off, Chris has received mental health evaluation and treatment on four separate occasions (each after he committed a crime) and they all had no effect on him. Chris isn't a horrible person because his mental issues. Rather, he is a horrible person that happens to also have mental issues. Trying to attribute a mentally ill person's horrible behavior to their mental health is like attributing a Black persons criminal activity to their Blackness. Not all mentally ill people are horrible people and not all Black people are criminals, so it makes no sense.

My ex-gf has both autism and schizophrenia. She also grew up in a horrible environment with an abusive, racist mom and a raging alcoholic dad that frequently beat and raped her. Did she turn out to be a criminal? No. Despite everything she went through, she always knew right from wrong. She ultimately got help on her own accord and is a perfectly functional member of society. She is also one of the sweetest people you will meet, too. One of my coworkers is autistic and was raised in a violent neighborhood by a drug addict dad that frequently starved him and abused him. Yet, he knows right from wrong and is a functioning member of society. One of my old classmates from high school had some kind of mental problem (not sure what) and was heavily bullied everyday. I still run into him sometimes and he is a kind, functioning human being.

Life is full of choices and as adults, our choices our responsibility. Plenty of people with mental health issues and horrible backgrounds grow up to be great people and functioning members of society. Likewise, some people with no mental issues and great backgrounds grow up to be horrible people. It's all a choice in the end. Add that to the fact that Chris has been mandated to receive mental health treatment on 4 separate occasions and it has had no effect, it is obvious that his actions are just the result of him being a horrible person to begin with.
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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Mon Feb 17, 2020 11:17 am

Red Roja wrote:
Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
It’s a distinct possibility but, regardless of that, if she’s wanting to be addressed as a she, I’ll address her as such.


Considering all the horrible things Chris has done, he deserves no such respect.

Looking at your posts, you seem to be under the assumption that Chris is the way he is because of online bullying and his mental problems. First, Chris was a horrible and cringy person long before the trolling even started. In the many years prior to his discovery by the trolls, Chris had already been banned from multiple places for his creepy behavior, been arrested multiple times for trespassing, solicitation, harassment, and threatening people, and been suspended from his college when he threatened the dean. The only reason he was bullied so much online is because he is such a horrible person in the first place and people felt that he deserved it. Especially after he plastered that pornographic drawing of his friend Megan all over the internet, threatened to rape her, and doxxed her.

His mental health is certainly no excuse either. First off, Chris has received mental health evaluation and treatment on four separate occasions (each after he committed a crime) and they all had no effect on him. Chris isn't a horrible person because his mental issues. Rather, he is a horrible person that happens to also have mental issues. Trying to attribute a mentally ill person's horrible behavior to their mental health is like attributing a Black persons criminal activity to their Blackness. Not all mentally ill people are horrible people and not all Black people are criminals, so it makes no sense.

My ex-gf has both autism and schizophrenia. She also grew up in a horrible environment with an abusive, racist mom and a raging alcoholic dad that frequently beat and raped her. Did she turn out to be a criminal? No. Despite everything she went through, she always knew right from wrong. She ultimately got help on her own accord and is a perfectly functional member of society. She is also one of the sweetest people you will meet, too. One of my coworkers is autistic and was raised in a violent neighborhood by a drug addict dad that frequently starved him and abused him. Yet, he knows right from wrong and is a functioning member of society. One of my old classmates from high school had some kind of mental problem (not sure what) and was heavily bullied everyday. I still run into him sometimes and he is a kind, functioning human being.

Life is full of choices and as adults, our choices our responsibility. Plenty of people with mental health issues and horrible backgrounds grow up to be great people and functioning members of society. Likewise, some people with no mental issues and great backgrounds grow up to be horrible people. It's all a choice in the end. Add that to the fact that Chris has been mandated to receive mental health treatment on 4 separate occasions and it has had no effect, it is obvious that his actions are just the result of him being a horrible person to begin with.


I’m under no such impression and you’ve grossly misinterpreted, either by accident or deliberately, what I’ve been saying in this thread.

Chris’s issues are partly her fault and partly her parents for not giving her the adequate treatment she needed in childhood. The bullying she has suffered for over a decade certainly doesn’t help, but I have never, ever denied that she is to blame too for her part in exacerbating it. That being said, since she’s identifying as transgender woman, whether as another psychotic break or truthfully, it costs me nothing to use female pronouns to refer to her.

Also, as someone who suffers from a mental condition, I don’t need your schooling. I am aware of what should be done and how treatment can indeed help.

I’d appreciate it if instead of calling for a witch hunt, which frankly makes you no better than Chris, you’d learned fucking nuance. I have no sympathy for her or her mom, but I don’t agree that you should incite anyone to run them out of home or town.
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