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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:19 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Otira wrote:To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

In public attacks in the West, not really.


Right, in the us the victims are usually white and the perp is usually also white, being a sovereign citizen, alt right radical or Christian fundamentalist.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 2:55 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Eastfield Lodge wrote:In public attacks in the West, not really.


Right, in the us the victims are usually white and the perp is usually also white, being a sovereign citizen, alt right radical or Christian fundamentalist.

True.
I don’t get why Americans complain less often about right-wing terror since it’s more common.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:00 pm

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Rojava Free State wrote:
Right, in the us the victims are usually white and the perp is usually also white, being a sovereign citizen, alt right radical or Christian fundamentalist.

True.
I don’t get why Americans complain less often about right-wing terror since it’s more common.


Because the narrative is that terrorism is an exclusively Muslim thing. Hence why white terrorists are always referred to as being mentally ill or the like rather than challenge this narrative by calling them terrorists.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:01 pm

Vassenor wrote:
Saranidia wrote:True.
I don’t get why Americans complain less often about right-wing terror since it’s more common.


Because the narrative is that terrorism is an exclusively Muslim thing. Hence why white terrorists are always referred to as being mentally ill or the like rather than challenge this narrative by calling them terrorists.

True.
That Afghan origin nightclub attacker was referred to as both mentally ill and a terrorist
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:18 pm

The terrorist is apparently a former prisoner according to sources. This might be interesting...

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:25 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The terrorist is apparently a former prisoner according to sources. This might be interesting...


What about him being a prison might be interesting? Is there a well known problem with this sort of thing in British prisons? I'm geninuely curious, no bait.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:38 pm

The East Marches II wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The terrorist is apparently a former prisoner according to sources. This might be interesting...


What about him being a prison might be interesting? Is there a well known problem with this sort of thing in British prisons? I'm geninuely curious, no bait.


If he was held on something linked to terrorism then it will be interesting. If he was in for shop lifting then it's a nothing burger.

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:39 pm

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The East Marches II wrote:
What about him being a prison might be interesting? Is there a well known problem with this sort of thing in British prisons? I'm geninuely curious, no bait.


If he was held on something linked to terrorism then it will be interesting. If he was in for shop lifting then it's a nothing burger.


I follow. I thought you meant he went to prison and got an bachelor's from Criminal University. Thanks for the info.

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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:40 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
The East Marches II wrote:
What about him being a prison might be interesting? Is there a well known problem with this sort of thing in British prisons? I'm geninuely curious, no bait.


If he was held on something linked to terrorism then it will be interesting. If he was in for shop lifting then it's a nothing burger.


Edit: He was in prison for a terrorist offence. This will be fun. :)

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Postby The East Marches II » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:43 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
If he was held on something linked to terrorism then it will be interesting. If he was in for shop lifting then it's a nothing burger.


Edit: He was in prison for a terrorist offence. This will be fun. :)


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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:46 pm

The Times confirming it was an Islamic terrorist on their front page for tomorrow.

Sorry Vass. Better luck next time.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 956d4d.jpg

He was wearing an electronic tag as a condition of his early release.

Someone is getting fired over this...
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:51 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The Times confirming it was an Islamic terrorist on their front page for tomorrow.

Sorry Vass. Better luck next time.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 956d4d.jpg

He was wearing an electronic tag as a condition of his early release.

Someone is getting fired over this...


The rule in my book is that if the attacker screams allahu akbar, he's an islamist, just like if the attacker yells 1488 before setting off a bomb, he's a Nazi
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:52 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The Times confirming it was an Islamic terrorist on their front page for tomorrow.

Sorry Vass. Better luck next time.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 956d4d.jpg

He was wearing an electronic tag as a condition of his early release.

Someone is getting fired over this...


The rule in my book is that if the attacker screams allahu akbar, he's an islamist, just like if the attacker yells 1488 before setting off a bomb, he's a Nazi


Did he shout that? I've not seen any reports that he did.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:55 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
The rule in my book is that if the attacker screams allahu akbar, he's an islamist, just like if the attacker yells 1488 before setting off a bomb, he's a Nazi


Did he shout that? I've not seen any reports that he did.


I don't know if he did. I was mainly referring to when they do and the usual suspects say "let's not jump to conclusions!"
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Postby Bloodshade » Fri Nov 29, 2019 3:56 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:The Times confirming it was an Islamic terrorist on their front page for tomorrow.

Sorry Vass. Better luck next time.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 956d4d.jpg

He was wearing an electronic tag as a condition of his early release.

Someone is getting fired over this...


I think it was a bit of a giveaway the moment it was confirmed he had some sort of fake suicide vest. Rather similar to the 2017 London Bridge Attack.

What I do want to know though is why at this time of the year again, a few weeks before the general election?
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Postby Crookfur » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:02 pm

Bloodshade wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:The Times confirming it was an Islamic terrorist on their front page for tomorrow.

Sorry Vass. Better luck next time.

https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/live-experienc ... 956d4d.jpg

He was wearing an electronic tag as a condition of his early release.

Someone is getting fired over this...


I think it was a bit of a giveaway the moment it was confirmed he had some sort of fake suicide vest. Rather similar to the 2017 London Bridge Attack.

What I do want to know though is why at this time of the year again, a few weeks before the general election?

Probably more down to London being particularly busy. What with the "black Friday" sales and this week being a common last payday before Christmas.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:34 pm

Neo Memetica wrote:It was an Islamic terror attack so this will inevitably be swept under the rug.


what are you taking about? It's all over the news
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:34 pm

Neo Memetica wrote:It was an Islamic terror attack so this will inevitably be swept under the rug.

Strange, it usually results in a series of diatribes about Islam and all Muslims being pathologically incompatible with Western civilization with the occasional sprinkles calling for increased profiling or even outright deportation of all Muslims.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:37 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Neo Memetica wrote:It was an Islamic terror attack so this will inevitably be swept under the rug.

Strange, it usually results in a series of diatribes about Islam and all Muslims being pathologically incompatible with Western civilization with the occasional sprinkles calling for increased profiling or even outright deportation of all Muslims.


Can't have those middle East wars without first having the media peddle the "Muslims are evil, kill em all" narrative.
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Postby Estanglia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:38 pm

Neo Memetica wrote:It was an Islamic terror attack so this will inevitably be swept under the rug.


Ah yes, the story that is all over the news and is the type of attack that has been all over the news whenever they occur will totally be swept under the rug, unless by 'swept under the rug' you mean 'inevitably forgotten about because no news story lasts forever'.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:39 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Neo Memetica wrote:It was an Islamic terror attack so this will inevitably be swept under the rug.

Strange, it usually results in a series of diatribes about Islam and all Muslims being pathologically incompatible with Western civilization with the occasional sprinkles calling for increased profiling or even outright deportation of all Muslims.


No mea culpa after you poo-pooing those who said the attack had the same MO of Islamic attacks in the UK?

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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:46 pm

Neo Memetica wrote:
Rojava Free State wrote:
Can't have those middle East wars without first having the media peddle the "Muslims are evil, kill em all" narrative.

Lemme guess.

You oppose the withdrawal from Syria?


What are you talking about? I said we can't have middle East wars without hatred of muslims. Clearly I'm against foreign wars. I would love to come home from the entire world. In fact i wish the US Army had stayed home after the end of world war II, but we kept going to other countries to engage in endless disastrous wars. The truth is that Islamism is not the real reason we got involved in iraq, Libya or syria.
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Postby Gormwood » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:46 pm

Fartsniffage wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Strange, it usually results in a series of diatribes about Islam and all Muslims being pathologically incompatible with Western civilization with the occasional sprinkles calling for increased profiling or even outright deportation of all Muslims.


No mea culpa after you poo-pooing those who said the attack had the same MO of Islamic attacks in the UK?

Okay, I was wrong. Want to rub it in?
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Postby Rojava Free State » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:47 pm

Neo Memetica wrote:
Gormwood wrote:Strange, it usually results in a series of diatribes about Islam and all Muslims being pathologically incompatible with Western civilization with the occasional sprinkles calling for increased profiling or even outright deportation of all Muslims.

Strange, I'm not seeing much of that in this thread.


This thread doesn't reflect most of society
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 4:48 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Fartsniffage wrote:
No mea culpa after you poo-pooing those who said the attack had the same MO of Islamic attacks in the UK?

Okay, I was wrong. Want to rub it in?


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