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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:55 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:No, I don't really think you get what I just said.
People may have different thoughts than what they are speaking of, that's what I really mean.
Tbh, people from said religion, when getting called out that their religion is 'ebil, backwards, a menace to a developed world' are bound to get hurt, whatever the reasons people may say to justify the action.

I wonder what other ideology is called “evil, backwards, and a menace to the developed world’ that doesn’t have members regularly going on mass murder sprees? :roll:

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Postby Samudera Darussalam » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:55 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Samudera Darussalam wrote:No, I don't really think you get what I just said.
People may have different thoughts than what they are speaking of, that's what I really mean.
Tbh, people from said religion, when getting called out that their religion is 'ebil, backwards, a menace to a developed world' are bound to get hurt, whatever the reasons people may say to justify the action.

I wonder what other ideology is called “evil, backwards, and a menace to the developed world’ that doesn’t have members regularly going on mass murder sprees? :roll:

I'm a member. I don't regularly trying to go on mass murder spree, just as many Muslims don't. As a Muslim I deeply regret what this terrorist, and other people like him did, because it's just making our lifes harder. So much for Muslim brotherhood or sisterhood....

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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Nov 30, 2019 4:58 pm

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:I wonder what other ideology is called “evil, backwards, and a menace to the developed world’ that doesn’t have members regularly going on mass murder sprees? :roll:

Communism.

That works, you can’t defend Islam by saying everyone criticizes it so terrorism is a natural reaction, because members of other criticized ideologies don’t nearly engage in as much terrorism as Islamists do
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:05 pm

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Lol wut?

I’ll rephrase it, while many theists want their religion to reign supreme, Islam is the only one that particularly calls for the destruction of non-believers and outlines policies such as the Jizyah to deliberately oppress non-Muslims in their states


In that case I agree, also not ot mention that Muslims are the only people going around beheading people for blasphemy.
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Postby Chernoslavia » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:06 pm

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Say again?


I'm certainly in favor of outlawing racialism and all that other garbage.


Yeah....fuck that.
What would things have been like if every security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive? Or if during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand? The Organs would quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt!

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Postby Gormwood » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:16 pm

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Samudera Darussalam wrote:I guess so, though you can't really know what they really think deep down.

Pointing out the flaws in Islam and religion in general is evil and bigoted, I know

But implying every single adherent of a religion acts exactly the same is perfectly fine.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:19 pm

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Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Pointing out the flaws in Islam and religion in general is evil and bigoted, I know

But implying every single adherent of a religion acts exactly the same is perfectly fine.

Islam is bad ≠ Muslims are bad people, criticizing Islam is perfectly fine
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:21 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Gormwood wrote:But implying every single adherent of a religion acts exactly the same is perfectly fine.

Islam is bad ≠ Muslims are bad people, criticizing Islam is perfectly fine

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Islam is bad, no other religion calls for the oppression and destruction of other religions (and atheists) one way or another

In the context of the subject, you imply good faithful Muslims are supposed to murder people of other faiths.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:24 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Islam is bad ≠ Muslims are bad people, criticizing Islam is perfectly fine

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Islam is bad, no other religion calls for the oppression and destruction of other religions (and atheists) one way or another

In the context of the subject, you imply good faithful Muslims are supposed to murder people of other faiths.

A fundamentalist Wahhabi-type Muslim, if adhering to the Koran, is implied to do so. Yet there are many sects of Islam that have a more liberal interpretation (well as liberal as you can get with the Koran)
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:27 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Gormwood wrote:
In the context of the subject, you imply good faithful Muslims are supposed to murder people of other faiths.

A fundamentalist Wahhabi-type Muslim, if adhering to the Koran, is implied to do so. Yet there are many sects of Islam that have a more liberal interpretation (well as liberal as you can get with the Koran)

So backing down from "all Islam" to "certain Muslims" I see.
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Postby Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:34 pm

Gormwood wrote:
Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:A fundamentalist Wahhabi-type Muslim, if adhering to the Koran, is implied to do so. Yet there are many sects of Islam that have a more liberal interpretation (well as liberal as you can get with the Koran)

So backing down from "all Islam" to "certain Muslims" I see.

Again, no, Islam itself is bad and deeply flawed due to above listed reasons
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Postby Gormwood » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:35 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:
Gormwood wrote:So backing down from "all Islam" to "certain Muslims" I see.

Again, no, Islam itself is bad and deeply flawed due to above listed reasons

Which by extrapolation should make all Muslims bad by your logic. It's disingenuous as Hate the Sin, Not the Sinner.
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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:37 pm

Repubblica Fascista Sociale Italiana wrote:Islam is bad, no other religion calls for the oppression and destruction of other religions (and atheists) one way or another

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Sat Nov 30, 2019 5:39 pm

The Liberated Territories wrote:Did he have a loicense for that butta knoife?

haha!!!

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The Liberated Territories wrote:Did he have a loicense for that butta knoife?


Butter knives can't even make people bleed.

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Butter knives can't even make people bleed.


Someone should tell the British that then

Someone should tell you to show some respect for the dead, instead of jumping in here with "BUTTA KNOIFE LOICENSE".
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:44 pm

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The Liberated Territories wrote:Did he have a loicense for that butta knoife?


Butter knives can't even make people bleed.


:rofl:

They most certainly can.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Nov 30, 2019 6:53 pm

Shitty that this will be used as more ammunition for the alt-right ethno nationalists crowd to rail against brown people and foreigners, regardless of whether they’re actually Muslim or not.
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Postby Aureumterra » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:30 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Shitty that this will be used as more ammunition for the alt-right ethno nationalists crowd to rail against brown people and foreigners, regardless of whether they’re actually Muslim or not.

Hide! The alt-right ethno nationalists are coming to rape your women and take your children! They definitely make up a large majority of the population!
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sat Nov 30, 2019 7:46 pm

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The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Shitty that this will be used as more ammunition for the alt-right ethno nationalists crowd to rail against brown people and foreigners, regardless of whether they’re actually Muslim or not.

Hide! The alt-right ethno nationalists are coming to rape your women and take your children! They definitely make up a large majority of the population!

You know, an ideology doesn’t need to make up a majority of a population to still have an unsettling amount of influence over people. I’d also appreciate it if you didn’t hyperbolize my words.
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Postby Proctopeo » Sat Nov 30, 2019 8:04 pm

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Butter knives can't even make people bleed.


:rofl:

They most certainly can.

With much effort, of course, but so can dining forks and soup spoons. Hell I'd say that a dining fork is more capable of causing significant injury than a butter knife.

Plastic ones are even less dangerous than metal ones, so you shouldn't even need an ID to buy them.
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Nov 30, 2019 10:06 pm

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The New California Republic wrote:The man who carried out the stab attack at London Bridge on Friday, named by police as Usman Khan, had previously been jailed for terrorism offences.


Say what you will about America, but at least we keep our terrorists locked up permanently after they commit acts of terrorism.


On the other hand, the man who tackled him was a murderer on parole. So not locking up people permanently can also work out right.
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Postby Sharania » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:38 pm

First - the guy with the Narwhal Tusk has been identified. He is a Polish immigrant who worked at Fishmonger's Hall

The heroic civilian who helped police tackle the London Bridge attacker says he was 'just a Londoner doing his bit'

Hmm, I wonder, how'd right-winger types in Britain spin this? What with their hatred of the Poles who "stole British jobs".

Second - father of one of the victims says very important things:

"My son, Jack, who was killed in this attack, would not wish his death to be used as the pretext for more draconian sentences or for detaining people unnecessarily.. R.I.P. Jack: you were a beautiful spirit who always took the side of the underdog."


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Postby Loben The 2nd » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:49 pm

Sharania wrote:First - the guy with the Narwhal Tusk has been identified. He is a Polish immigrant who worked at Fishmonger's Hall

The heroic civilian who helped police tackle the London Bridge attacker says he was 'just a Londoner doing his bit'

Hmm, I wonder, how'd right-winger types in Britain spin this? What with their hatred of the Poles who "stole British jobs".

Second - father of one of the victims says very important things:

"My son, Jack, who was killed in this attack, would not wish his death to be used as the pretext for more draconian sentences or for detaining people unnecessarily.. R.I.P. Jack: you were a beautiful spirit who always took the side of the underdog."


Finally - stay strong, London.


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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Nov 30, 2019 11:52 pm

Sharania wrote:First - the guy with the Narwhal Tusk has been identified. He is a Polish immigrant who worked at Fishmonger's Hall

The heroic civilian who helped police tackle the London Bridge attacker says he was 'just a Londoner doing his bit'

Hmm, I wonder, how'd right-winger types in Britain spin this? What with their hatred of the Poles who "stole British jobs".

Second - father of one of the victims says very important things:

"My son, Jack, who was killed in this attack, would not wish his death to be used as the pretext for more draconian sentences or for detaining people unnecessarily.. R.I.P. Jack: you were a beautiful spirit who always took the side of the underdog."


Finally - stay strong, London.


Another one of the "heroes" is James Ford. And I put heroes between quotation marks because he murdered a disabled girl by slitting her throat a few years back, and was walking outside jail without the family of said girl being informed.
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Postby Samadhi » Sun Dec 01, 2019 12:27 am

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Sun Dec 01, 2019 1:59 am

Trollzyn the Infinite wrote:
The New California Republic wrote:The man who carried out the stab attack at London Bridge on Friday, named by police as Usman Khan, had previously been jailed for terrorism offences.


Say what you will about America, but at least we keep our terrorists locked up permanently after they commit acts of terrorism.

Do you also not care for the right to due process?
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