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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:48 am

Ifreann wrote:
Aeritai wrote:Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?

Given that the perpetrator is dead, that might take a while.

Yeah, they still haven't confirmed a positive ID of the suspect yet, so they'll probably have to do that first before finding a motive.
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:48 am

Eastfield Lodge wrote:
Otira wrote:To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

In public attacks in the West, not really.

I'm sure you could move the goalposts further.

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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:49 am

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Otira wrote:To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

In public attacks in the West, not really.

True,
In the west it would probably be a cross-section of the local population.
But most terrorism linked to violent interpretations of the Quran is in the Middle East.

They have been driven out of Syria and Iraq though due to the blessings of Allah and the courage of the Iraqi Army and Royal Air Force.
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Postby Australian rePublic » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:50 am

Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism? This is like what? the fourth time a stabbing has happened in the past few years. Not to mention Machester/Ariana Grande, Finsbury Park, Westminster, etc. F$$k!
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Postby -Astoria » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:50 am

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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Islamist terrorist

Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad. My main sympathy is with the immediate victims however.

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Postby Mzeusia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:50 am

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Mzeusia wrote:Offices and restaurants

Whoever did this was crazy.
Who would be against offices and restaurants?

Well the bridge is obviously very busy, so it makes sense for an attack to happen there. Despicable of course.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:52 am

Otira wrote:Having seen a video of the attack, kudos to the law enforcement and common folk who worked to stop this attacker.

For those arguing the attacker's origin, unless I've been ninja'd in the thread I will add that the video did not make identification easy. A dark-haired male with a beard is what I saw.


Did we watch the same video? Because the one the BBC's released doesn't even give anything resembling a vague shot of the suspect's head.
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Postby -Astoria » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:53 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism? This is like what? the fourth time a stabbing has happened in the past few years. Not to mention Manchester/Ariana Grande, Finsbury Park, Westminster, etc. F$$k!

*looks at America*
No, that wouldn't be a fair comparison...

But then again, much less prone than other countries...

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:54 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:55 am

Vassenor wrote:
Aeritai wrote:Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?


As usual it's all extremist islamism until proven otherwise. Because how dare people have to accept that people other than extremist Islamists can do this sort of thing.


Yeah, sad how some of the posters here are quick to assume it was an Islamist attack.
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Postby Mzeusia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:55 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.

The entire immigrant pop is not hostile. Only some are.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:56 am

Aeritai wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
As usual it's all extremist islamism until proven otherwise. Because how dare people have to accept that people other than extremist Islamists can do this sort of thing.


Yeah, sad how some of the posters here are quick to assume it was an Islamist attack.

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.


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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:57 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.

Please don’t equate the majority with the actions of a few.

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Postby Agarntrop » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:59 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:00 am

San Lumen wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.

Please don’t equate the majority with the actions of a few.


The few might be the one carrying out the attacks but polling has shown time and again the majority share the same sort of vile beliefs. I'm pretty sure Ostro has lots of sources on the topic if you wanna dive down that hole.
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:00 am

Vassenor wrote:
Otira wrote:Having seen a video of the attack, kudos to the law enforcement and common folk who worked to stop this attacker.

For those arguing the attacker's origin, unless I've been ninja'd in the thread I will add that the video did not make identification easy. A dark-haired male with a beard is what I saw.


Did we watch the same video? Because the one the BBC's released doesn't even give anything resembling a vague shot of the suspect's head.


Obviously not, I didn't watch the BBC's released video.

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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:03 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Please don’t equate the majority with the actions of a few.


The few might be the one carrying out the attacks but polling has shown time and again the majority share the same sort of vile beliefs. I'm pretty sure Ostro has lots of sources on the topic if you wanna dive down that hole.

I have seen polls saying something different.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:08 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Please don’t equate the majority with the actions of a few.


The few might be the one carrying out the attacks but polling has shown time and again the majority share the same sort of vile beliefs. I'm pretty sure Ostro has lots of sources on the topic if you wanna dive down that hole.


Would these be the same sources where a 1% difference between "multiculturalism is bad" and "Multiculturalism has improved the country" with a 19% "I don't think it's made a difference" is proof that the majority of British people hate multiculturalism?
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:10 am

Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism? This is like what? the fourth time a stabbing has happened in the past few years. Not to mention Machester/Ariana Grande, Finsbury Park, Westminster, etc. F$$k!

The UK is a major power which has been quite active in the war on terror, in particular against radical Islamism, especially recently with ISIS etc so it makes it a target for those types seeking to get revenge for their holy war bollocks.

Also has problems with some members of the local muslim community who try and radicalise younger muslim people, in particular men to try and cause shit like this either locally or overseas (been a few notable examples of this over like the last 15 years or so with clerics being imprisoned and shit over it)

And then prior to all that shit, the troubles caused a spill over of paramilitary attacks into the UK.
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Postby Aureumterra » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:12 am

Blame it on the knife, knife control now! /s
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:13 am

Aureumterra wrote:Blame it on the knife, knife control now! /s

Really only the police, military and chefs need knives.

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Postby Major-Tom » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:13 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Australian rePublic wrote:Man, why is England so f%%king prone to terrorism?


Because it has a large minority immigrant population that is openly hostile to its ideals and culture. That breeds problems on both sides and causes both natives and the immigrant to attack one another.


Using such a broad brush is ultimately in poor faith. The majority of Muslims in the UK aren't violent, nor terroristic, and the issues that do exist within the Muslim community can be addressed with the utmost vigilance without casting blame at that entire minority population.

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Postby San Lumen » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:19 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:Please don’t equate the majority with the actions of a few.


The few might be the one carrying out the attacks but polling has shown time and again the majority share the same sort of vile beliefs. I'm pretty sure Ostro has lots of sources on the topic if you wanna dive down that hole.

I want too see the receipts

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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 11:19 am

Aureumterra wrote:Blame it on the knife, knife control now! /s


Cool story bro.
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