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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:30 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Thoonia wrote:A number of people, about five have been injured, but I don't think seriously.

Thankfully.

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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:30 am

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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Islamist terrorist

Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad. My main sympathy is with the immediate victims however.

But your sympathies are also with Islamists.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:31 am

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Saranidia wrote:Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad. My main sympathy is with the immediate victims however.

But your sympathies are also with Islamists.


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Postby Munkcestrian Republic » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:31 am

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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:But your sympathies are also with Islamists.


Based on what?

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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:31 am

Rainbowsix wrote:ig we gotta put knife control on the agenda

The UK has been making various efforts to reduce knife crime for years.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:32 am

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Saranidia wrote:Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad. My main sympathy is with the immediate victims however.

But your sympathies are also with Islamists.

Only the peaceful ones.
Islamist is a vague term.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:33 am

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Vassenor wrote:
Based on what?

"Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad."

Yeah, He wasn’t profiling me don’t worry.
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Postby Fartsniffage » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:36 am

Police are saying the cordon might be staying in place over the weekend due to "other factors". Anyone heard anything more about that jack-knifed white lorry?

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Postby Unstoppable Empire of Doom » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:36 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
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So you admit that for now you're talking out of your ass.

No I don't.

Odds are it was a religiously motivated attack by an immigrant from a predominantly Muslim nation. It's just like how the odds are the Patriots will win the super bowl again. You can cite a bunch of statistics and figures but at the end of the day yes... it is being proverbially pulled from an ass. If this upsets you oh well.

As was said before: If it walks like a chicken, talks like a chicken, looks, smells, and feels like one too.... there is a high probability it is an animal of the avian persuasion.

If a bearded guy wearing a faux suicide vest goes on a seemingly random mass stabbing spree in london... there is a high probability it is a human of the Islamic terrorist persuasion.
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:37 am

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Munkcestrian Republic wrote:Fake suicide vest and a stabbing spree.

People keep talking like Islamists would wear working suicide vests. A fake suggests he really isn't that committed to dying or he wanted to pass himself off as one.


Or, you know, he just didn't know how to make working explosives.
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:39 am

Having seen a video of the attack, kudos to the law enforcement and common folk who worked to stop this attacker.

For those arguing the attacker's origin, unless I've been ninja'd in the thread I will add that the video did not make identification easy. A dark-haired male with a beard is what I saw.

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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:39 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Vassenor wrote:
So what evidence do you have that this was an Islamist terror attack when the police have released nothing about the suspect's identity?

Fake suicide vest and a stabbing spree.

Well stabbing spree could be non-Islamist(there have been Neo-Nazi plots at a stabbing spree at a gay club).

Fake suicide vests suggest Islamist motive since National Action and lone-wolves don’t promote That particular type of terror(unless it was false flag)
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:40 am

Otira wrote:Having seen a video of the attack, kudos to the law enforcement and common folk who worked to stop this attacker.

For those arguing the attacker's origin, unless I've been ninja'd in the thread I will add that the video did not make identification easy. A dark-haired male with a beard is what I saw.

Oh ok.
Did he say “Allahu Akbar”?
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Postby Aeritai » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:41 am

Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:42 am

Saranidia wrote:
Otira wrote:Having seen a video of the attack, kudos to the law enforcement and common folk who worked to stop this attacker.

For those arguing the attacker's origin, unless I've been ninja'd in the thread I will add that the video did not make identification easy. A dark-haired male with a beard is what I saw.

Oh ok.
Did he say “Allahu Akbar”?
(Trying to think if he interpreted Islam in an extreme way or was some other kind of extremists)

Not that I heard.

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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:43 am

Munkcestrian Republic wrote:
Saranidia wrote:Yeah, unfortunately this will make Muslims and Islamists look bad. My main sympathy is with the immediate victims however.

But your sympathies are also with Islamists.

What is wrong with sympathy for the peaceful followers of a political ideology, rated with the same brush as those who use terror?
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Postby Otira » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:44 am

Saranidia wrote:
Munkcestrian Republic wrote:But your sympathies are also with Islamists.

What is wrong with sympathy for the peaceful followers of a political ideology, rated with the same brush as those who use terror?

To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

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Postby Mzeusia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:44 am

Aeritai wrote:Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?

Not yet, no.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:45 am

Otira wrote:
Saranidia wrote:What is wrong with sympathy for the peaceful followers of a political ideology, rated with the same brush as those who use terror?

To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

Yes, indeed they are, thank you.
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Postby An Alan Smithee Nation » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:45 am

Does anybody who knows London know what those buildings near the attack are used for? BBC are saying that the attack also included a building.
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Postby Mzeusia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:45 am

An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Does anybody who knows London know what those buildings near the attack are used for? BBC are saying that the attack also included a building.

Offices and restaurants
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Postby Ifreann » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:45 am

Aeritai wrote:Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?

Given that the perpetrator is dead, that might take a while.
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Postby Saranidia » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:46 am

Mzeusia wrote:
An Alan Smithee Nation wrote:Does anybody who knows London know what those buildings near the attack are used for? BBC are saying that the attack also included a building.

Offices and restaurants

Whoever did this was crazy.
Who would be against offices and restaurants?
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Postby Eastfield Lodge » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:47 am

Otira wrote:
Saranidia wrote:What is wrong with sympathy for the peaceful followers of a political ideology, rated with the same brush as those who use terror?

To add to your post, aren't Muslims the primary victims of Islamic radicals?

In public attacks in the West, not really.
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Postby Vassenor » Fri Nov 29, 2019 10:47 am

Aeritai wrote:Have the police discovered any motive behind the attack?


As usual it's all extremist islamism until proven otherwise. Because how dare people have to accept that people other than extremist islamists can do this sort of thing.
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