Should the CPUSA Be Outlawed and Forcefully Disbanded?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

"The Communist Party does not endorse candidates from other parties"

But it does endorse the democrats in general
I will reiterate: lol.

it doesn't though??

"The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.

Trump's agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.

Big changes are needed to put people's needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people's organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again."

[Antityranicals]

I don't think you understand how this works. BigPharmaCorp can only maintain a monopoly with the help of a government forbidding other companies from competing against it with regulations. Regulations cause monopolies. Otherwise, the very moment BigPharmaCorp stops providing the very best service possible, hundreds of new companies will start, and compete against it with lower prices. BigPharmaCorp can try to buy them all, but it will likely fail, as the companies will demand more and more money for their company, because of the huge profit which can be made competing against a monopoly, and more companies will come in to replace those companies which are bought out if they are. The one and only thing which can prevent this monopoly from collapsing is the government banning these companies from starting using regulations.

The amount of damage done by the time a new company can even begin to compete with bigpharmacorp would be catastrophic. If they've bought a whole sector out, it's gonna take some time for a new competitor to challenge them

A few days? It's not that hard to make medicine, if only government regulations don't make paperwork compliance a nightmare.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

But it does endorse the democrats in general
I will reiterate: lol.

it doesn't though??

"The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.

Trump's agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.

Big changes are needed to put people's needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people's organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again."

like that's just anti-Republican not pro-Democrat and i know this may seem strange but there are parties other than the Republicans and Democrats. you are participating in a thread about one, after all

[Black Moon Archmagocracy]

Right. This proves nothing. As I said earlier: when only two parties have control over who gets in office, it's a bit hard not to support one or the other.

No, it isn’t. I might even vote for Bernie, but the Communist parties do not endorse him, to my knowledge, because as the IMT says he cannot enact his reforms. He does not have the support of the democrats. Apart from introducing the public to some ideas, all he does is revitalize the corporate corpse of the fake left, the Democratic Party. If he had run as an independent, then we might support him.

[Kubra]

already got a mayor in Wisconsin

Wow, what a prestigious position.

/s

He didn't call you "nero". He said nero could at least hold a tune, the implication being that if this is performance art it isn't very good.

The implication being if my post is an attempt at trolling it isn't very good. I see that went over your head.

You account name is literally Trollzyn the Infinite.

Which is a 40k meme. It has nothing to do with my posting habits. You think I'd go trolling with "troll" in the name? Trolling is supposed to be subtle; that's the opposite of subtle.

Never mind that you just admitted to troll-naming.

Performance art isn't trolling, bruh. It's performance art. It makes an ironic point.

[Telconi]

Only if we can't differentiate between thoughts and actions. Can we differentiate between thoughts and actions?

Jailing people based on the political party they're in is a thought crime. It's something a dictator does

You realize that membership in a political party involves more than just though right?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

But it does endorse the democrats in general
I will reiterate: lol.

it doesn't though??

"The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.

Trump's agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.

Big changes are needed to put people's needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people's organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again."

Golly-gee, that sounds like an actually reasonable political strategy.

[The South Falls]

I don't think he Republicans are against the free market by any means. Their deregulation measures are designed to spur the free market, at the expense of the environment and often less wealthy Americans.

The free market cannot hurt less wealthy Americans, that's not possible. How would that even work? Rather, the free market gives those Americans more choices, meaning lower prices and/or higher quality.

The business subsidies which Republicans often favor, however, do hurt less wealthy Americans, by allowing companies to be unproductive, not serving Americans as they should, while still getting bailed out by the governments.

The methods that they use to bolster the free market hurt less wealthy Americans. Take the tax cuts, as an example. Less federal tax money will reach public services, like Medicare and Medicaid, hurting less wealthy Americans that rely on those programs.

[Kubra]

But it does endorse the democrats in general
I will reiterate: lol.

it doesn't though??

"The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.

Trump's agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.

Big changes are needed to put people's needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people's organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again."

which incidentally involves getting people to vote democrat.
I won't reiterate, you get the point.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

it doesn't though??

"The presidential election is not just about candidates themselves. It is about choosing what direction the country will go in. So, we work with allies in the union movement, in immigrant rights and civil rights and environment and organizations of women, LGBTQ, youth, and retirees with the goal of stopping extremists like Trump and building enough “people power” to win better jobs, education, healthcare, equality and peace.

Trump's agenda is threatening to working and poor people and our entire planet because it is based on hatred, racism, bigotry and looking out only for the .1%. But stopping Trump is not enough.

Big changes are needed to put people's needs before profits in our country. We organize at the local level. We run in local elections, especially non-partisan. We have run presidential candidates in the past. When the labor and people's organizations are strong enough to route the extremist corporate right wing, and when we have gained more strength at the local level, we may well decide to run national candidates again."

which incidentally involves getting people to vote democrat.
I won't reiterate, you get the point.

it doesn't.

I am right, as always.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

Wow, what a prestigious position.

/s



The implication being if my post is an attempt at trolling it isn't very good. I see that went over your head.



Which is a 40k meme. It has nothing to do with my posting habits. You think I'd go trolling with "troll" in the name? Trolling is supposed to be subtle; that's the opposite of subtle.

Never mind that you just admitted to troll-naming.

Performance art isn't trolling, bruh. It's performance art. It makes an ironic point.

You don't honestly think he was calling my OP "performance art" unironically, do you?

[Kubra]

Right. This proves nothing. As I said earlier: when only two parties have control over who gets in office, it's a bit hard not to support one or the other.

No, it isn’t. I might even vote for Bernie, but the Communist parties do not endorse him, to my knowledge, because as the IMT says he cannot enact his reforms. He does not have the support of the democrats. Apart from introducing the public to some ideas, all he does is revitalize the corporate corpse of the fake left, the Democratic Party. If he had run as an independent, then we might support him.

>IMT
hooo wait a minute who are you
which front group do you rep? Is it fightback?

[The South Falls]

Jailing people based on the political party they're in is a thought crime. It's something a dictator does

You realize that membership in a political party involves more than just though right?

It's utilizing your beliefs or thoughts about politics to place yourself in a group of like-minded individuals.. Its core is still thought. Political party members aren't all rioting extremists.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

which incidentally involves getting people to vote democrat.
I won't reiterate, you get the point.

it doesn't.

I am right, as always.

I have literally never seen you be right about anything except this one, specific thing. Honestly.

[Black Moon Archmagocracy]

it doesn't though??""

“Getting people involved” in the elections without supporting an alternative candidate is the same, in practice, as supporting the democrats.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Performance art isn't trolling, bruh. It's performance art. It makes an ironic point.

You don't honestly think he was calling my OP "performance art" unironically, do you?

mods will accuse anything of being trolling.. I'm still banned from making threads on Northumbrian nationalism/independence because they thought I wasn't being serious

[Black Moon Archmagocracy]

>IMT
hooo wait a minute who are you
which front group do you rep? Is it fightback?

I’m not a member, I just attended meetings.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

You don't honestly think he was calling my OP "performance art" unironically, do you?

mods will accuse anything of being trolling.. I'm still banned from making threads on Northumbrian nationalism/independence because they thought I wasn't being serious

To be fair you're probably the only Northumbrian Nationalist in existence.

[Antityranicals]

The free market cannot hurt less wealthy Americans, that's not possible. How would that even work? Rather, the free market gives those Americans more choices, meaning lower prices and/or higher quality.

The business subsidies which Republicans often favor, however, do hurt less wealthy Americans, by allowing companies to be unproductive, not serving Americans as they should, while still getting bailed out by the governments.

The methods that they use to bolster the free market hurt less wealthy Americans. Take the tax cuts, as an example. Less federal tax money will reach public services, like Medicare and Medicaid, hurting less wealthy Americans that rely on those programs.

And that money, instead of being used in those bureaucratic morasses which you have listed, will remain in the private sector. There, it will mean that corporations don't have to raise prices in order to remain profitable, thus lowering prices for everyday Americans. You see the seen benefit, but not the unseen cost, and that unseen cost is far, far greater. That unseen cost is millions put below the poverty line who otherwise would be able to afford what they need to live because corporations wouldn't have to raise prices.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

it doesn't.

I am right, as always.

I have literally never seen you be right about anything except this one, specific thing. Honestly.

Where have I been wrong?

[Telconi]

You realize that membership in a political party involves more than just though right?

It's utilizing your beliefs or thoughts about politics to place yourself in a group of like-minded individuals.. Its core is still thought. Political party members aren't all rioting extremists.

And joining the mob is utilizing my beliefs or thoughts about how to extort local businesses with like-minded individuals. Is it now "thought crime" to prosecute mobsters for racketeering?

[Munkcestrian Republic]

mods will accuse anything of being trolling.. I'm still banned from making threads on Northumbrian nationalism/independence because they thought I wasn't being serious

To be fair you're probably the only Northumbrian Nationalist in existence.

i follow a few others on twitter

[Kubra]

which incidentally involves getting people to vote democrat.
I won't reiterate, you get the point.

it doesn't.

I am right, as always.

Buddy their national committee chair wrote a whole essay on why they support dems. here.
Oh sure, it seems to be "critical support" sort of thing, but no one ever takes that seriously in our milieu. We're used to grand theoretical pronouncements to justify rather mundane policy.

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

I have literally never seen you be right about anything except this one, specific thing. Honestly.

Where have I been wrong?

I can't remember any specific incident, but I sincerely used to think you were a troll at one point. You have a lot of rather outlandish ideas that make even my most extreme ones seem rational by comparison.

To be fair you're probably the only Northumbrian Nationalist in existence.

i follow a few others on twitter

Right, well, let me know when you guys get a Wikipedia page. That there is the big leagues.

[Farnhamia]

Performance art isn't trolling, bruh. It's performance art. It makes an ironic point.

You don't honestly think he was calling my OP "performance art" unironically, do you?

Even if he was, it wouldn't be a rules violation. I suppose I shouldn't have put my oar in and I apologize if I upset you.