Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[Katganistan]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

Look i am pro Trump and live America. It saddens me to say unless the America people stand with pride it's a real possibility.

Some of us would rather not live in the current dumpster fire, thank you.

[Telconi]

Look i am pro Trump and live America. It saddens me to say unless the America people stand with pride it's a real possibility.

Some of us would rather not live in the current dumpster fire, thank you.

Offer a better alternative then?

[Stellonia]

Then you're delusional. (Most) Dems (again, with the exception of the powerless Bernie fringe that's going nowhere way too fast) are positively in love with freedom. The party of black and hispanic enfranchisement, homosexual marriage, gender equality, free trade and open borders, among many other things. What among these positions is in opposition to freedom, prosperity, or justice?

Can I ask a hypothetical question that is important to this argument? If you were to migrate to Saudi Arabia and live there permanently, would you adopt the prevailing Saudi perspective regarding women, gay people, and Jews?

[Italian Wine]

Yes, I would imagine so. You would expect that after 2024 some time, maybe 2028 - there won't be another Republican in control unless some significant cultural shift happens.

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Looking at this, the Non-Hispanic white population (more specifically NHW male) is the only thing keeping the Republicans in the race here. As the population of NHW individuals diminishes (whether on purpose or natural is another debate) the logical pattern would be that the Republican vote goes down and never comes back up. Hell, Trump lost the popular vote by 2 million or so in 2016 anyway.

You can see the phenomenon of individuals leaving somewhere they don't like and then voting for the things they left in Texas. A bunch of Californians are moving to Texas and Nevada because of lower taxes, better housing affordability and growing job prospects - yet once those people arrive they vote for the same policies that created these issues back in California, it honestly beggars belief. We see it racially, with immigrants voting overwhelmingly for the Democrats even though the left's mismanagement of places like San Francisco has made them (literal) shitholes [search San Francisco poop map or click here.] Maybe it's because they're unaware of these issues or whatever, but I don't know.

Not to mention these Charlie Kirk types who think hosting black and Hispanic leadership summits will win them over are just eternally deluded. Not that any issues Democrats create with immigration or general governance will affect him anyway, with his near 7 figure salary and political/business connections.

I thought I heard that Trump and Republicans had made inroads to winning over black and hispanic voters. Those are the two group coming into America in highest numbers. It goes the opposite way as well. IF, the Democratic party losses these blocs of it's over for them in swing states.

Not really, though it'd be difficult for New York and California to shift their massive populations into the midwest, south, and central states while keeping all the fleeing white liberals (they're the only ones who can afford to move out) voting Democrat vs becoming uninvolved in politics.

*Edit, I'd also like to add, what have Democrats done for these groups? By the time the campaign has started, I think blacks and latinos are going to be too cynical to vote for a candidate from the DNC by 2020.

[Kubra]

Some of us would rather not live in the current dumpster fire, thank you.

Offer a better alternative then?

ultra-liberalism

[Alvecia]

Relevant XKCD

[United Columbia Republic]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

No. Just because We Democrats won 2018, 2019, and possibly 2020, Doesn't mean that it will be Democratic-controlled. There are Independent Centrists and Ring-Wing Liberals and Democratic-Republicans who believe America should be of, by, and for the people. Not too far left to where it would turn from a Capitalist country into a Socialist country. America is and always will believe in a Democracy, But don't let fellow Democrats fool you with trying to make the USA a total-Liberal country. Because that's not our mission. Our mission is to get Donald Trump and his cronies out of The White House with their far-right Fascist excuses on why to blame the Democratic Party on everything and anything they do, and build a better future for America and our Constitutional Republic by electing a responsible fit leader like Andrew Yang, Tulsi Gabbard, Tom Steyer, and Michael Bloomberg to run the course of our future. We're in a sh*tload of trouble right now as we speak because there are so many far-rights in this country and yet there are only few Democratic candidates who are running for President for bullsh*t answers/reasons. Virginia was about time for it to become a Blue State, Ohio aimed next as it's totally retarded physically. Kentucky was a surprise in my opinion, Louisiana as well. What i am saying is, Even if we DO have a Democratic President that won't change America's political views against one-another. Even if Andrew Yang AKA "The Unifyer" wins, America is still going to be a country where it has it's mixed political opinions in different variety of American Political Parties.

[Kowani]

Yes, I would imagine so. You would expect that after 2024 some time, maybe 2028 - there won't be another Republican in control unless some significant cultural shift happens.

(Image)
Looking at this, the Non-Hispanic white population (more specifically NHW male) is the only thing keeping the Republicans in the race here. As the population of NHW individuals diminishes (whether on purpose or natural is another debate) the logical pattern would be that the Republican vote goes down and never comes back up. Hell, Trump lost the popular vote by 2 million or so in 2016 anyway.

You can see the phenomenon of individuals leaving somewhere they don't like and then voting for the things they left in Texas. A bunch of Californians are moving to Texas and Nevada because of lower taxes, better housing affordability and growing job prospects - yet once those people arrive they vote for the same policies that created these issues back in California, it honestly beggars belief. We see it racially, with immigrants voting overwhelmingly for the Democrats even though the left's mismanagement of places like San Francisco has made them (literal) shitholes [search San Francisco poop map or click here.] Maybe it's because they're unaware of these issues or whatever, but I don't know.

Not to mention these Charlie Kirk types who think hosting black and Hispanic leadership summits will win them over are just eternally deluded. Not that any issues Democrats create with immigration or general governance will affect him anyway, with his near 7 figure salary and political/business connections.

I thought I heard that Trump and Republicans had made inroads to winning over black and hispanic voters.

He’s not.

. It goes the opposite way as well. IF, the Democratic party losses these blocs of it's over for them in swing states.

Except there’s literally no evidence to suggest this is happening.

Not really, though it'd be difficult for New York and California to shift their massive populations into the midwest, south, and central states while keeping all the fleeing white liberals (they're the only ones who can afford to move out) voting Democrat vs becoming uninvolved in politics.

Trends also suggest that this is highly untrue.

*Edit, I'd also like to add, what have Democrats done for these groups?

How far back do you want the timeline?

By the time the campaign has started, I think blacks and latinos are going to be too cynical to vote for a candidate from the DNC by 2020.

Would two minutes of research on voter trends by too hard?

[Trollzyn the Infinite]

On the one hand I'd be overjoyed to never have to endure another Republican Administration, but on the other we'd become a One Party State and we all know how those end.

I say it's high time we legalize all parties. Except the CPUSA. Those traitors can go fuck themselves.

[North German Realm]

The two parties have changed their platforms and danced around long enough for us to know that this is certainly not going to be the case. The likeliest scenario will be just another shift of the US politics to the left; there's been loads of them in the last few centuries and none of them resulted a "permanently-Republican" or "permanently-Democrat" pseudo-single party dictatorship.

[Thermodolia]

I’m pretty sure that an authoritarian would come to power before that happens

If authoritarianism is what it takes to keep this charade going, then it isn't worth it.

Got it so you just hate America.

[Thermodolia]

if the U.S. becomes permanently democratic imma find another country to go to that wouldnt be a train wreck

Literally no other Western nation/democracy is accepting of or as extreme as the GOP is when it comes to right wing policies and beliefs. Hell, most "Right wing" politicans in other Western Democracies are comparable to the US' Democrats.

Good luck.

Israel

[Thermodolia]

On the one hand I'd be overjoyed to never have to endure another Republican Administration, but on the other we'd become a One Party State and we all know how those end.

I say it's high time we legalize all parties. Except the CPUSA. Those traitors can go fuck themselves.

The CPUSA is basically an FBI get together at this point

[North German Realm]

Literally no other Western nation/democracy is accepting of or as extreme as the GOP is when it comes to right wing policies and beliefs. Hell, most "Right wing" politicans in other Western Democracies are comparable to the US' Democrats.

Good luck.

Israel

Even Israel isn't as insane as the GOP economics-wise, and in term of domestic issues, it is a head and shoulders superior to the GOP on its own social policy towards its own citizens. The only thing Israel has in common with the GOP is the corruption of its politicians and some of Likud's rhetoric towards its Arab citizens.

[Central Dintinia]

No I Don’t see it happening. If the Republican Party really started becoming irrelevant they would simply start changing their stances. I’ve seen a few people post that things will simply shift to the left which I see being the most realistic response. If the republicans stop being able to win elections another party will take their place. Personally I say I lean towards the Democrats but truly am an independent. I agree and Disagree with actions and policies done by both parties personally I’d like to see them with some competition ie other political parties.

[Aclion]

The Democrat party survived raising arms against the union in order to preserve slavery and within twenty years had a man in the White House. Major parties can survive basically anything so long as they keep hold of a relevant political platform.

[Cannot think of a name]

Nah.

[Teachian]

I don’t expect the Republican’s current electoral strategy to be sustainable in light of changing demographics, but that hardly means the democrats will go undisputed.

Either the Republicans evolve to continue challenging them, or a new party rises to become a valid alternative. Heck, I could even see centrist and leftist democrats splitting if somehow their party remained the only valid choice. American politics might not be made for more than two parties, but it’s also not made for less.

[North German Realm]

I don’t expect the Republican’s current electoral strategy to be sustainable in light of changing demographics, but that hardly means the democrats will go undisputed.

Either the Republicans evolve to continue challenging them, or a new party rises to become a valid alternative. Heck, I could even see centrist and leftist democrats splitting if somehow their party remained the only valid choice. American politics might not be made for more than two parties, but it’s also not made for less.

Honestly this. Even if the Republicans are too stupid to just shift their political platform and keep up with the crowd, the Democrats will bifurcate (as it is becoming more obvious as time goes on) or those among the Republicans who aren't stupid will break off and do their own thing.

[Arthenius]

If republicans continue to bleed support anywhere outside of farms and small towns then yes. Republicans will be a regional party unable to win congress or the presidency and control of many state governments.

If Texas went blue the Republican are finished as a national party as there Is no path to 270 without it

Might I suggest a civil war then?

[Farnhamia]

If republicans continue to bleed support anywhere outside of farms and small towns then yes. Republicans will be a regional party unable to win congress or the presidency and control of many state governments.

If Texas went blue the Republican are finished as a national party as there Is no path to 270 without it

Might I suggest a civil war then?

Thank you, but no. Forse un espresso e dei biscotti?

[Iroma]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

If what you are saying does happen the Democrats will dominate for a while but that won't end partisan politics, there will still be a vocal group of Congressional Republicans. I'd guess that the Republican party would shift its view for the new age.

After the Civil War and Lincoln, the Republicans dominated the Presidency and Congress for a long while pushing for Reconstruction in the Democrat's Solid South. Immediately after the Civil War Democratic political machines started targetting immigrants in the city as a new voting pool. As the country changed that issue was kind of left behind and the Republican party started focusing on Laissez-faire economics and supporting the huge industries and monopolies. By the time the Progressive Era came Republicans and Democrats were very similar for many issues and you would start seeing Republicans and Democrats sweep the whole nation in votes. It could go either way.

See how we went from a very divided time of the Civil War were one party dominated to a time where both parties could win? Look at Electoral Maps for FDR, Raegan, and Nixon. I would say our modern politics is very divided but eventually, the tensions would mellow down as the country faced a new large issue that both parties could relatively agree on. You would also probably see the Republicans try and gain votes from a new voter pool as well, maybe Asian immigrants or Latin American immigrants, or something like that. (unless a strong third party develops during the Democrat-dominated period that replaces the GOP, or the Democratic party could split into 2 factions)

[Arthenius]

Might I suggest a civil war then?

Thank you, but no. Forse un espresso e dei biscotti?

Okay then.

[Gormwood]

But Karl Rove's wet dream of a permanent Republican majority was just peachy apparently.

[Antityranicals]

No, the very idea that shifting demographics could put those damned socialists in power is ludicrous. Whatever the media may say, Mr. Trump appeals to minorities better than any other Republican president or presidential candidate in the 21st century (That's not saying much, I'll grant, but it's true...). What I'm seeing is the Democratic Party turning into a cult. If you don't believe in outright socialism, post-birth abortion, and being able to change gender at will, you have no place in the modern Democratic Party. Such a party will never be electable. The Republican party, however, is becoming the inclusive party, with everyone from libertarians to rust belt union members turning towards it. I'm seeing fifty years of Republican dominance in our future, unless the Democratic party makes some serious changes...