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The GOP will move to the left on a few issues (likely LGBTQ rights, marijuana, and/or abortion) once the boomers and seniors pass and the gen x and millennials become more prominent.
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:55 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:The GOP will move to the left on a few issues (likely LGBTQ rights, marijuana, and/or abortion) once the boomers and seniors pass and the gen x and millennials become more prominent.


Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.
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Postby HUElavia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 7:59 am

No, with the pendulum of Politics, it will shift from left to right like always. Currently, we're shifting to the right, but it will come around once again. Also, if one party does control plenty of areas, the other party will have to change their stances in order to maintain strength and relevance. Either that, or a multi-party system begins to give challenges, and break the two-party system the U.S. has right now.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:03 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:The GOP will move to the left on a few issues (likely LGBTQ rights, marijuana, and/or abortion) once the boomers and seniors pass and the gen x and millennials become more prominent.


Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.


what? You have proof of that claim?

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The Emerald Legion wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:The GOP will move to the left on a few issues (likely LGBTQ rights, marijuana, and/or abortion) once the boomers and seniors pass and the gen x and millennials become more prominent.


Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.

I wish the GLAAD survey had more detailed information about this. Specifically, I'm curious if this is across the entire LGBTQ population or if it's a result of the recent increase in awareness of the transgender community. Pew did a study and concluded as much: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06 ... americans/

But that's a topic for another thread.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:10 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.

I wish the GLAAD survey had more detailed information about this. Specifically, I'm curious if this is across the entire LGBTQ population or if it's a result of the recent increase in awareness of the transgender community. Pew did a study and concluded as much: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06 ... americans/

But that's a topic for another thread.

where in that study do you get support is dropping?

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San Lumen wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:I wish the GLAAD survey had more detailed information about this. Specifically, I'm curious if this is across the entire LGBTQ population or if it's a result of the recent increase in awareness of the transgender community. Pew did a study and concluded as much: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06 ... americans/

But that's a topic for another thread.

where in that study do you get support is dropping?

The Pew study shows that transgendered people are much more disliked than gays, lesbians, and bisexuals. The drop in support for the LGBTQ community comes from GLAAD's annual Accelerating Acceptance survey: https://www.glaad.org/blog/glaad%E2%80% ... ance-among
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Postby The Emerald Legion » Thu Dec 12, 2019 8:16 am

Asle Leopolka wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.

I wish the GLAAD survey had more detailed information about this. Specifically, I'm curious if this is across the entire LGBTQ population or if it's a result of the recent increase in awareness of the transgender community. Pew did a study and concluded as much: https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2013/06 ... americans/

But that's a topic for another thread.


That's what I suspect to be honest. With the relative normalization of homosexuality, that's not a hot button political issue anymore. Leaving people to think of Trans as the main issue of LGBT.
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Postby Bear Stearns » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:44 am

The Emerald Legion wrote:
Asle Leopolka wrote:The GOP will move to the left on a few issues (likely LGBTQ rights, marijuana, and/or abortion) once the boomers and seniors pass and the gen x and millennials become more prominent.


Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.


There is a reason for this. They went too far and people feel like they've been hoodwinked. Back in the early 2000s, when gay marriage was the big fight of the day, they framed it as "gay people are normal, hardworking, family-loving people who just want to live in peace and be left alone, and as long as it is between consulting adults, it's okay". Most people thought this seemed pretty reasonable and accepted it, figuring it would stop there. Social conservatives who said this would lead to crazy shit down the road were derided as kooks.

Fast forward to today and men are using women's bathrooms, sexual predators are dressing up in drag and performing to kids, people are saying pedophilia is just another sexual orientation, and people are putting children on hormone blockers but yet if you think any of that stuff is wrong, then you're cancelled for being a hateful bigot.

So now people are starting to look back at the original LGBT activists and are like "wtf bro you people are freaks and you tricked us!"
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:46 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
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Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.


There is a reason for this. They went too far and people feel like they've been hoodwinked. Back in the early 2000s, when gay marriage was the big fight of the day, they framed it as "gay people are normal, hardworking, family-loving people who just want to live in peace and be left alone, and as long as it is between consulting adults, it's okay". Most people thought this seemed pretty reasonable and accepted it, figuring it would stop there. Social conservatives who said this would lead to crazy shit down the road were derided as kooks.

Fast forward to today and men are using women's bathrooms, sexual predators are dressing up in drag and performing to kids, people are saying pedophilia is just another sexual orientation, and people are putting children on hormone blockers but yet if you think any of that stuff is wrong, then you're cancelled for being a hateful bigot.

So now people are starting to look back at the original LGBT activists and are like "wtf bro you people are freaks and you tricked us!"


No one other than a bunch of extremists are calling pedophilia a sexual orientation. putting children on hormone blockers is ridiculous

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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:49 am

San Lumen wrote:putting children on hormone blockers is ridiculous


okay transphobe
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Postby Cekoviu » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:49 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
The Emerald Legion wrote:
Depends on how things play out. LGBTQ approval amongst young people is dropping like a rock.


There is a reason for this. They went too far and people feel like they've been hoodwinked. Back in the early 2000s, when gay marriage was the big fight of the day, they framed it as "gay people are normal, hardworking, family-loving people who just want to live in peace and be left alone, and as long as it is between consulting adults, it's okay". Most people thought this seemed pretty reasonable and accepted it, figuring it would stop there. Social conservatives who said this would lead to crazy shit down the road were derided as kooks.

In 1990, you would've said the same thing about civil rights activists and gays. The point being, your garbage views are going to die out eventually and there's not much you can do about it.
Fast forward to today and men are using women's bathrooms,

Examples of men using women's bathrooms, please?
people are saying pedophilia is just another sexual orientation,

Like 300 people on the far right are saying people should be murdered for having 10% jewish ancestry, which is the moderate right's fault. Yes?
and people are putting children on hormone blockers

And?
yet if you think any of that stuff is wrong, then you're cancelled for being a hateful bigot.

I mean
have you ever taken a look at your own opinions and how you express them
that might be the problem
So now people are starting to look back at the original LGBT activists and are like "wtf bro you people are freaks and you tricked us!"

people = people who were never really open-minded, just begrudgingly accepting the view of society at large so they wouldn't be exposed for the bigots they really are
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Washington Resistance Army wrote:
San Lumen wrote:putting children on hormone blockers is ridiculous


okay transphobe


Also, I think more data has come about homosexuality's links to nymphomania, sexual aggression, and mental illness, which has eroded the image people had of gay people from shows like Will & Grace and Modern Family.

The gay neighborhood in Chicago (Boys Town) is basically the place to go if you want to get meth and/or date raped.
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okay transphobe


Also, I think more data has come about homosexuality's links to nymphomania, sexual aggression, and mental illness, which has eroded the image people had of gay people from shows like Will & Grace and Modern Family.

The gay neighborhood in Chicago (Boys Town) is basically the place to go if you want to get meth and/or date raped.

You really are just a fountain of bullshit aren't you.
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:52 am

Bear Stearns wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
okay transphobe


Also, I think more data has come about homosexuality's links to nymphomania, sexual aggression, and mental illness, which has eroded the image people had of gay people from shows like Will & Grace and Modern Family.

The gay neighborhood in Chicago (Boys Town) is basically the place to go if you want to get meth and/or date raped.

None of that is true. Chicago is the reason Illinois is a blue state. If more people in urban areas voted consistently Republicans would never win most statewide officers.
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Bear Stearns wrote:
Washington Resistance Army wrote:
okay transphobe


Also, I think more data has come about homosexuality's links to nymphomania, sexual aggression, and mental illness, which has eroded the image people had of gay people from shows like Will & Grace and Modern Family.

The gay neighborhood in Chicago (Boys Town) is basically the place to go if you want to get meth and/or date raped.

ahem, source?
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Postby Auzkhia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:56 am

Maybe they'll be dominant for some time until another partisan realignment happens. Who knows? They basically were during the FDR administration.

A new New Deal era? New Deal 2 Dem-Soc Boogaloo?
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Postby Washington Resistance Army » Thu Dec 12, 2019 9:58 am

Auzkhia wrote:Maybe they'll be dominant for some time until another partisan realignment happens. Who knows? They basically were during the FDR administration.

A new New Deal era? New Deal 2 Dem-Soc Boogaloo?


Given how disastrously bad the first one was that's gonna be a hard pass from me.
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Postby LiberNovusAmericae » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:00 am

Even if the GOP does fade away, I would expect another party to replace it. We have had a dominant-party system before during the Era of Good Feelings, but it didn't last forever.

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Postby San Lumen » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:01 am

Washington Resistance Army wrote:
Auzkhia wrote:Maybe they'll be dominant for some time until another partisan realignment happens. Who knows? They basically were during the FDR administration.

A new New Deal era? New Deal 2 Dem-Soc Boogaloo?


Given how disastrously bad the first one was that's gonna be a hard pass from me.

it only ended the Depression. But lets get rid of social security, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage among other things.

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Given how disastrously bad the first one was that's gonna be a hard pass from me.

it only ended the Depression. But lets get rid of social security, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage among other things.


It absolutely did not end the Depression lol. Even WW2 fully didn't fix the problems, after the war ended we still dealt with the remnants of the Depression. Really the biggest thing the FDR administration did was vastly expand government power.
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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:51 am

America is waaay too bipartisan for that. America becoming a one-party state is extremely unlikely at best unless a party takes over by force and physically changes the Constitution or if America becomes rapidly different from modern America.

Even if the Dems destroy the Elephants, like an awful Yin Yang, the Dems will have a different party to deal with. Perhaps even, they themselves would divide. Once the Whigs fell, the Democrat-Republican party was the sole power. But then bipartisanship divided the party and two and now we have Dems and Republicans.

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Postby The of Korea » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:55 am

The US will remain a two party system. Either republicans will rebrand and change to be more electable, or another party will take their place.

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Postby Hammer Britannia » Thu Dec 12, 2019 10:57 am

San Lumen wrote:
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Given how disastrously bad the first one was that's gonna be a hard pass from me.

it only ended the Depression.

No

But lets get rid of social security, medicare, medicaid, minimum wage among other things.

Yes
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Postby Phoenicaea » Thu Dec 12, 2019 11:11 am

youth, you suppose parties will fall whenever they re not adapt. historically, it s grown people that fall theirs. breeze reforms regime, or regime clays you?
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