Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[San Lumen]

That is outdated

Yeah sorry it's now 29 Republican to 19 Democrat with one divided

and its very possible the number of Republican controlled legislature goes down further after next years election.

[Munkcestrian Republic]

Yeah sorry it's now 29 Republican to 19 Democrat with one divided

and its very possible the number of Republican controlled legislature goes down further after next years election.

Possible. But they went from only having 13 to almost being able to call a constitutional convention.

[Rojava Free State]

Don't know. Don't care. Same group of people owns both of them

[Thermodolia]

And it's very possible that they take it back.

in 2022 yes although like in 2020 there are more Republican than Democratic seats up

The majority of those seats are in safe republican districts. The republicans aren’t going to lose the senate

[Outer Sparta]

in 2022 yes although like in 2020 there are more Republican than Democratic seats up

The majority of those seats are in safe republican districts. The republicans aren’t going to lose the senate

The only competitive ones in 2020 are Colorado, Arizona, Maine, and North Carolina.

[Thermodolia]

The majority of those seats are in safe republican districts. The republicans aren’t going to lose the senate

The only competitive ones in 2020 are Colorado, Arizona, Maine, and North Carolina.

Not enough to flip the senate as the democrats need at least five seats

[Outer Sparta]

The only competitive ones in 2020 are Colorado, Arizona, Maine, and North Carolina.

Not enough to flip the senate as the democrats need at least five seats

They need three seats. Assuming Alabama is lost, Dems should look to target those four states. And this is in the scenario if the Dems win the presidency.

[Tobleste]

1/3 will be Republican by 1/3 democrat. The other 1/3 will vote by whoever most reminds them of world wrestling entertainment or gives them the best perks.

Basically. Though I think dems are at about 45% and Republicans are at 40%. I actually think Warren would be a better president than Biden but it seems like slightly senile and extremely out of touch old white men are what swing voters want.

[Tobleste]

Your obsession with coups and revolutions is frightening

if you ain’t revolting against corrupt oligarchs and statist tyrants tbh what are you even doing

Well you're probably a Republican given that they're currently led by oligarchs, corrupt cronies and a tyrant. Given their approach to abortion, gay rights, police brutality and their belief that Republican presidents are divinely appointed rulers exempt from the rule of law whose opponents are demonically influenced (Rick Perry and Franklin Graham said this recently iirc), they aren't the anti-statist libertarians they pretend to be.

Basically they want America saturated with guns which some people here view as the only criteria for a free society.

[San Lumen]

1/3 will be Republican by 1/3 democrat. The other 1/3 will vote by whoever most reminds them of world wrestling entertainment or gives them the best perks.

Basically. Though I think dems are at about 45% and Republicans are at 40%. I actually think Warren would be a better president than Biden but it seems like slightly senile and extremely out of touch old white men are what swing voters want.

there is a whole thread for this.

[Outer Sparta]

1/3 will be Republican by 1/3 democrat. The other 1/3 will vote by whoever most reminds them of world wrestling entertainment or gives them the best perks.

Basically. Though I think dems are at about 45% and Republicans are at 40%. I actually think Warren would be a better president than Biden but it seems like slightly senile and extremely out of touch old white men are what swing voters want.

Or what the NYT calls "swing voters" people who donated thousands of dollars to Republican candidates and frequently go to Trump rallies that live in [insert tiny town in PA, OH, WI, IN, or MI].

[Tobleste]

Basically. Though I think dems are at about 45% and Republicans are at 40%. I actually think Warren would be a better president than Biden but it seems like slightly senile and extremely out of touch old white men are what swing voters want.

there is a whole thread for this.

It was one post and this thread is about what voters will want in the future anyway. It's hardly off topic.

[Ors Might]

if you ain’t revolting against corrupt oligarchs and statist tyrants tbh what are you even doing

Well you're probably a Republican given that they're currently led by oligarchs, corrupt cronies and a tyrant. Given their approach to abortion, gay rights, police brutality and their belief that Republican presidents are divinely appointed rulers exempt from the rule of law whose opponents are demonically influenced (Rick Perry and Franklin Graham said this recently iirc), they aren't the anti-statist libertarians they pretend to be.

Basically they want America saturated with guns which some people here view as the only criteria for a free society.

Republicans are pretty trash yeah, more news at 11.

Though, in their defense, it is infinitely more difficult to violently revolt agaunst tyrants and oligarchs without weapons.

[The Derpy Democratic Republic Of Herp]

The op reads like something from a right wing echo chamber fear monger post.

[Vetalia]

No, if anything the Republicans have been gaining at the state and local level in recent years. More likely will be schisms in the two parties as they keep moving farther to the right/left, respectively, resulting in either a formal or informal (via "Independents") centrist third party.

[Gim]

No, if anything the Republicans have been gaining at the state and local level in recent years. More likely will be schisms in the two parties as they keep moving farther to the right/left, respectively, resulting in either a formal or informal (via "Independents") centrist third party.

America has been bipartisan for its entire existence. I doubt that is going to happen.

[Vetalia]

America has been bipartisan for its entire existence. I doubt that is going to happen.

True, I think you're right in the end...if the Republicans and Democrats didn't split on the eve of the Civil War they're definitely not going to split over things these days.

[Gim]

America has been bipartisan for its entire existence. I doubt that is going to happen.

True, I think you're right in the end...if the Republicans and Democrats didn't split on the eve of the Civil War they're definitely not going to split over things these days.

I mean, even a tyrant like Trump couldn't make America tripartisan.

[Serrus]

Speaking as a historian...this has happened before. After the War of 1812, the Federalists had sabotaged their reputation due to radicalism (where have we seen that before?), and just kinda...died. The Democratic Republicans enjoyed dominance for a bit, then split into another 2 parties along the same previous lines as the previous system.
So will that happen again? My answer is maybe. But one way or the other, the US won't schism into separate nations. Our party system, based on the fact electoral reform is such a big issue, might well schism into a multi-party system. If that happens, which I feel is likely/also want it badly so our electoral maps look like disco raves, it'll probably split like so:
1. The social-democrats (roughly Yang to Warren)
2. The centrists (every other candidate in the Democratic race)
The democrats might stick together, but the republicans will more than likely split into
3. The moderate conservatives (Republicans before all the chaos happened)
4. The jettisoned alt-right borderline-if-not-outright-fascist loony section of the party.
Alternatively 1 and 4 could split off from a merged 2 and 3.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

If the Democrats did manage to control the US for long enough to destroy the Republicans, left unity would do its thing and cease to exist, fracturing the Democrats into two parties that would become the future equivalents to the Democrats and Republicans. It's happened before, it'll happen again if the conditions are right. The US political system will pretty much always have exactly two relevant parties, no more and no less.

[Vetalia]

I mean, even a tyrant like Trump couldn't make America tripartisan.

And Trump really isn't that bad if we get down to the nitty gritty...he's no tyrant, just a goofball who spouts off on Twitter from time to time and lies with staggering competence, but at least he hasn't started any new wars. He even did a few good things working with North Korea and putting the screws to China.

Dubya was orders of magnitude worse in his first term than Trump could ever be.

[Gim]

If the Democrats did manage to control the US for long enough to destroy the Republicans, left unity would do its thing and cease to exist, fracturing the Democrats into two parties that would become the future equivalents to the Democrats and Republicans. It's happened before, it'll happen again if the conditions are right. The US political system will pretty much always have exactly two relevant parties, no more and no less.

More parties will just complicate things.

[Evil Dictators Happyland]

If the Democrats did manage to control the US for long enough to destroy the Republicans, left unity would do its thing and cease to exist, fracturing the Democrats into two parties that would become the future equivalents to the Democrats and Republicans. It's happened before, it'll happen again if the conditions are right. The US political system will pretty much always have exactly two relevant parties, no more and no less.

More parties will just complicate things.

I disagree with that assessment, but this is neither the time nor the place.

[Gim]

More parties will just complicate things.

I disagree with that assessment, but this is neither the time nor the place.

Okay, we'll leave it at that. I don't want to digress.

[Thermodolia]

Not enough to flip the senate as the democrats need at least five seats

They need three seats. Assuming Alabama is lost, Dems should look to target those four states. And this is in the scenario if the Dems win the presidency.

I was operating under the idea that Alabama was a lost seat. Therefore requiring five seats.