Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[New haven america]

1. Only because the Reps have gutted education in Rural areas and fed them the lie that anything having to do with government run systems is Ebil Socailizm.
2. I'm not a Dem, so assumptions can feck right off. : D

Lol

1. Stereotype Number #2567: rural ppl iz stoopid

2. And tbh with how much you shill for them you might as well be a Dem.

1. Are you capable of making an argument without relying on Strawmen?
2. I haven't once shilled for or against them, simply pointed out facts. If you're having difficulty with that idea, then that's your problem.

[New haven america]

Whereas Joe Biden appeals to out-of-touch white boomers who make political Facebook memes. Your point being?

The entire Dem lineup is a clown car of failure?

No, that would be the GOP.

[San Lumen]

And it will the Republicans own fault depending on rural whites to save them.

Yes, how dare they care about rural communities.

Who needs food and electricity? The cities provide everything.

People vote. Not trees, farms or cattle and in if the urban counties in Texas or other states outvote rural areas then too bad. Run candidates who can win there or reduce the margins or maybe campaign there instead of just relying on farmhouses and small towns to carry you over.

[New haven america]

1. Are you capable of making an argument without relying on Strawmen?
2. I haven't once shilled for or against them, simply pointed out facts. If you're having difficulty with that idea, then that's your problem.

1. It's just funny to hear you whine when you run out of arguments. 2. Incidentally, it's not even as if you need a PHD-level education to understand the deep complexities behind "tax the rich, give free shit".
3. Nah, you don't shill for them. 4. Just their causes and candidates and whatnot. Totally different.

1. I haven't run out of arguments, but the arguments I'm currently forced to work with are worthless and badly thought out.
2. Like strange and out of place statement you just gave here.
3. Yes, that is correct.
4. lol, no. I bet you can't even find a post of me doing that in this very thread.

[New haven america]

1. I haven't run out of arguments, but the arguments I'm currently forced to work with are worthless and badly thought out.
2. Like strange and out of place statement you just gave here.
3. Yes, that is correct.
4. lol, no. I bet you can't even find a post of me doing that in this very thread.

1. So you mean to tell me you don't support Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, AOC or Ilhan Omar? You don't support free healthcare and free college?

Now, that is interesting.

1. How do you know I do or don't, I never stated my position on any of those things in this thread.
2. That doesn't look like a post within this thread of me supporting those ideas, please, try again.

[Necroghastia]

That doesn't address the main point, that Republicans are horrific for rural communities who need the social services that should be held sacrosanct to merely survive.

Dems haven't been great for rural communities either, and they've done a piss poor job in winning back support by running wishy-washy, uninspiring neoliberal candidates for decades. That is a given. But the notion that a Dem trifecta in the US would wreck rural communities is such a shitty argument considering the wholesale disregard the GOP also has for rural areas.

Well, you could try running Bernie but he only really appeals to suburban white kids who get most of their political info from Facebook memes.

I mean speaking as a rural PoC who loathes Facebook and gets most of my poltical info from primary sources, he appeals a hell of a lot more than anyone the Republicans have ever trotted out.

[New haven america]

1. How do you know I do or don't, I never stated my position on any of those things in this thread.
2. That doesn't look like a post within this thread of me supporting those ideas, please, try again.

Because you're a carbon copy of every other social democrat, and the political stances you've voiced in this very thread would indicate as such.

I haven't voiced any political stances for or against the Dems.

Also, that doesn't look like a post within this thread of me supporting the Dems, please, try again.

[Washington Resistance Army]

It's not an impossibility if the GOP keeps holding to their spineless conservatism.

[Samicana]

No. Democrats might control the government for a while, but if that keeps happening Republicans will shift their strategy, or a new party will emerge to challenge them.

and that party is def. gonna be far right, they are gonna use propaganda and social media to spread their hateful message, preying on disenfranchised conservative members of gen z. It's sad but history always repeats itself.

[Cekoviu]

Whereas Joe Biden appeals to out-of-touch white boomers who make political Facebook memes. Your point being?

The entire Dem lineup is a clown car of failure?

NC, there are more than two Democratic presidential candidates.

[Anteja]

Democrat controlled? PERMANENTLY?! Let's hope not. We'll have to leave the country

Nah, the Conservatives will eventually wage a civil war against them, or spilt apart and become a Confederacy or something.

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Why does everyone assume I'm some kinda white boy from Kentucky, when I am actually Hispanic

[Japan and Pacific States]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

I certainly hope it won't. In my opinion the UK is dead, it's government is filled to the brim with a treasonous lot that under normal circumstances would and should be round up and shot for treason against the people and the crown, but of course we live in the day and age where you can get reported as a criminal for saying something slightly offensive and it be put on official record as a "crime-non-crime". Which is ungodly orwellian. At this point with my country committing political suicide, I've not many options to leave to, but the US is a prime candidate.

I'd be a shame to see it topple over because of the cringeworthy democratic party there. When it's lunatics like that in our labour party in parliament here that I would be hoping to flee from. Either way if it does, I've still got atleast Poland as a backup option, thankfully.

[Telconi]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Why does everyone assume I'm some kinda white boy from Kentucky, when I am actually Hispanic

Not possible, you're not licking the DNC's boots!

[San Lumen]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Why does everyone assume I'm some kinda white boy from Kentucky, when I am actually Hispanic

Ok. It still doesnt answer the question of what your going to when your side loses election after election because you can't win outside of farmhouses and small towns.

[Telconi]

Why does everyone assume I'm some kinda white boy from Kentucky, when I am actually Hispanic

Ok. It still doesnt answer the question of what your going to when your side loses election after election because you can't win outside of farmhouses and small towns.

What's the saying? "Better to die a hero than live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

[Aureumterra]

Single party control has happened in US history first with the Democratic-Republicans defeating the Federalists over and over again, who split into Dems and Whigs

If the modern Dems take over America forever (highly unlikely), then there would be splinter groups within the party who would faction off, mainly the religious POC demographic for social politics and Capitalists vs. Socialists for economic politics

[Washington Resistance Army]

Democrat controlled? PERMANENTLY?! Let's hope not. We'll have to leave the country

Nah, the Conservatives will eventually wage a civil war against them, or spilt apart and become a Confederacy or something.

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Tbh a separation would probably be best long term. American democracy is doomed to keep ripping itself apart, we're too large a nation with too many wildly varying opinions for this shit to work forever.

[San Lumen]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Tbh a separation would probably be best long term. American democracy is doomed to keep ripping itself apart, we're too large a nation with too many wildly varying opinions for this shit to work forever.

Good luck getting that separation passed in the legislature or in a referendum

[Telconi]

Tbh a separation would probably be best long term. American democracy is doomed to keep ripping itself apart, we're too large a nation with too many wildly varying opinions for this shit to work forever.

Good luck getting that separation passed in the legislature or in a referendum

There are ways to make it a lot more enticing.

[Nazeroth]

"hard men create good times, good times create soft men, soft men create hard times"

I have become more spiritual and have been looking at history and world religions and there interpretation as the "end of days"

I know it sounds wierd but I think we are seeing a cycle of catastrophic disaster and chaos always because of "decadence" and "lack of faith"

Armageddon, Ragnorak, Kali Yuga, Zeus/Jupiter smiting mankind etc etc hell even the "boogaloo"

I do not believe that they mean that "the world literally ends" but that an age of destruction and darkness approaches, an age where deciet is common, decadence and whoredom are commonplace, and cultural tearing occurs between the "faithful" and "lost"

the funny thing is.....I am not religous, but this is certainly creeping me out.


to bring it back to the topic: I don't think we will have a nation much longer

[Cekoviu]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things? A separation won’t happen either

Why does everyone assume I'm some kinda white boy from Kentucky, when I am actually Hispanic

You can be both, the post you responded to wasn't assuming that, and being Hispanic isn't particularly relevant here.

[Saiwania]

If Liberal policy was so great, then what should've happened was for the US to be controlled by Democrats since the Great Depression up to today. Instead, the Carter years happened where things were perceived to be going badly if this wasn't objectively the case- and there was a Conservative revolution that sweeped the nation from the 1980s all the way until around 2008.

Just because the non-Whites tend to not be Republican, doesn't mean that this will necessarily always be the case. Perhaps given enough time, for similar reasons but different circumstances, enough people will be drawn to what opposition there is and just as what happened with Reagan, US politics will swing to the right again if it goes too far to the left for too long.

[Teachian]

Ok. It still doesnt answer the question of what your going to when your side loses election after election because you can't win outside of farmhouses and small towns.

What's the saying? "Better to die a hero than live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

People not voting the way you like =/= them being bad people. That goes for both sides.

It seems quite stubborn and foolish for a party to argue that people are voting the wrong way than to accept that it lacks the necessary appeal and build proper inroads. I don’t want or expect the Democrats (or any one party) to run the country unopposed, and I sure as hell believe there are plenty of political fault lines a party could use to be competitive, no matter how the demographics are changing.

I’ve posted before that the idea that Republicans are at risk hardly means everyone will forever vote Democrat. All this means is that there’s a wake up call for them or some other party to adapt and innovate.
The Republican Party congratulating themselves and then going “woe is me!” when the obvious occurs isn’t that.

[Lamoni]

I don't hate liberalism, I hate the people who oppose freedom, prosperity, and justice. Like Democrats.

Then you're delusional. (Most) Dems (again, with the exception of the powerless Bernie fringe that's going nowhere way too fast) are positively in love with freedom. The party of black and hispanic enfranchisement, homosexual marriage, gender equality, free trade and open borders, among many other things. What among these positions is in opposition to freedom, prosperity, or justice?

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[Telconi]

What's the saying? "Better to die a hero than live long enough to see yourself become the villain"

People not voting the way you like =/= them being bad people. That goes for both sides.

It seems quite stubborn and foolish for a party to argue that people are voting the wrong way than to accept that it lacks the necessary appeal and build proper inroads. I don’t want or expect the Democrats (or any one party) to run the country unopposed, and I sure as hell believe there are plenty of political fault lines a party could use to be competitive, no matter how the demographics are changing.

I’ve posted before that the idea that Republicans are at risk hardly means everyone will forever vote Democrat. All this means is that there’s a wake up call for them or some other party to adapt and innovate.
The Republican Party congratulating themselves and then going “woe is me!” when the obvious occurs isn’t that.

Not 100% of the time, but certainly sometimes.