Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[San Lumen]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

Realistically, Republicans will adapt. Trump already did that by constantly showing his support towards the "latino" people, which is the fastest growing minority in the US. Both major parties in the US are trying to appeal to all races already.

The Republican party will have to drop its extremism and polarization at some point. Democrats are set to win because their positions on most issues are more rational, even if some candidates promise too much. Having an NHS, for example, is not ground-breaking. All other developed nations have it. Republicans should not be against it, even if its costly.

Yet Latinos aren't voting Republican. I wouldn't underestimate Republicans to continue to cheat in order to win because they dont want to put in the effort to win fairly via non gerrymandered maps or make the effort to win in urban areas. Free and Fair elections and democracy is an annoyance to them

[Stellar Colonies]

If the Democrats become the sole party of a new one-party phase, internal divisions within the party will eventually lead some to split off and join with other groups to form some new party.

[San Lumen]

If the Democrats become the sole party of a new one-party phase, internal divisions within the party will eventually lead some to split off and join with other groups to form some new party.

Why hasnt that happened in Wyoming or South Dakota which have been a one party states for decades?

[Bear Stearns]

I expect the power struggle between the Conservative Capitalist Party and the Neoliberal Capitalist Party to carry on for many decades to come.

The Conservative Capitalist Party and the Neoliberal Capitalist Party will likely just become the Capitalist party (i.e. the establishment) and will be countered by fascist groups on the right (the white working class) and socialist groups on the left (the non-white working class).

White liberals and John McCain-style conservatives should be very afraid.

[Stellar Colonies]

If the Democrats become the sole party of a new one-party phase, internal divisions within the party will eventually lead some to split off and join with other groups to form some new party.

Why hasnt that happened in Wyoming or South Dakota which have been a one party states for decades?

I'm referring to the entire country.

[Luziyca]

No. Democrats might control the government for a while, but if that keeps happening Republicans will shift their strategy, or a new party will emerge to challenge them.

Pretty much this.

If we had this thread about 175 years ago made by a supporter of the Whigs, I reckon the answer might be yes, but as we know, the Whigs faded into obscurity and the Republicans rose to take their place.

If the Democrats become a dominant party, then I reckon in a few decades, the GOP will either evolve or fade into obscurity. And then the second party will be something better like the Prohibition Party.

[Major-Tom]

No. The two parties continually shift, and always have. In '64, people predicted the total destruction of the GOP, in '80 the wholesale destruction of the Dems, and people in 2016 really did think that the Dems would keep winning just about every election until the end of time.

There are always shifts in public opinion, party beliefs and stances, etc etc. The Democratic Party and Republican Party would both look utterly foreign to observers from, say, the 1970s. As the demographics, public opinions, and overall attitudes of the average American continue to change, the two parties will likely follow suit.

The only other foreseeable option (provided the two parties, specifically the GOP don't evolve) is that the US slowly evolves into a more multi-party state, but I find that rather implausible for the near future.

[Xmara]

No. The two parties continually shift, and always have. In '64, people predicted the total destruction of the GOP, in '80 the wholesale destruction of the Dems, and people in 2016 really did think that the Dems would keep winning just about every election until the end of time.

There are always shifts in public opinion, party beliefs and stances, etc etc. The Democratic Party and Republican Party would both look utterly foreign to observers from, say, the 1970s. As the demographics, public opinions, and overall attitudes of the average American continue to change, the two parties will likely follow suit.

The only other foreseeable option (provided the two parties, specifically the GOP don't evolve) is that the US slowly evolves into a more multi-party state, but I find that rather implausible for the near future.

I mean, it seems like the libertarians are picking up steam a bit, so it’s not entirely implausible. Don’t quote me on that though because I really don’t know. I only started paying attention to politics when I was in high school and we all know that wasn’t that long ago.

[Christian Confederation]

Democrat controlled? PERMANENTLY?! Let's hope not. We'll have to leave the country

Nah, the Conservatives will eventually wage a civil war against them, or spilt apart and become a Confederacy or something.

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things?

March into all the Dem ran hell holes and Liberate our opressed brothers in the middle class.
As they say the tree of liberty is feed by the blood of Patriots and tyrants, or in this case Republicans and Socialists

[San Lumen]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things?

March into all the Dem ran hell holes and Liberate our opressed brothers in the middle class.
As they say the tree of liberty is feed by the blood of Patriots and tyrants, or in this case Republicans and Socialists

And what are going to do when you get there? You are aware They chose their city governments on free and fair elections?

[Dagnia]

No, for several reasons. Taking my high school civics classes in the 1990s, we were taught that the US would be "majority minority" by now and the Republican party would be finished. It's one of those things that's always just around the corner but never really happens. Also the fertility rate of Republicans is far higher than that of Democrats. They can't count on immigrants to replace them because the country is becoming more hostile to immigration, and the Hispanics who come here tend to vote Republican after a few generations here or upon reaching a certain income level. It's the Democrats who are going to soon have a problem when they have problems putting together the usual groups of people they can count on to vote for them, like recent immigrants, the LGBT (the first #walkaway person was gay), racial minorities, and the few blue collar workers deluded into thinking the Democrats have cared about them since 1992.

[Major-Tom]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things?

March into all the Dem ran hell holes and Liberate our opressed brothers in the middle class.
As they say the tree of liberty is feed by the blood of Patriots and tyrants, or in this case Republicans and Socialists

My brain hurts.

[San Lumen]

No, for several reasons. Taking my high school civics classes in the 1990s, we were taught that the US would be "majority minority" by now and the Republican party would be finished. It's one of those things that's always just around the corner but never really happens. Also the fertility rate of Republicans is far higher than that of Democrats. They can't count on immigrants to replace them because the country is becoming more hostile to immigration, and the Hispanics who come here tend to vote Republican after a few generations here or upon reaching a certain income level. It's the Democrats who are going to soon have a problem when they have problems putting together the usual groups of people they can count on to vote for them, like recent immigrants, the LGBT (the first #walkaway person was gay), racial minorities, and the few blue collar workers deluded into thinking the Democrats have cared about them since 1992.

Do you have any evidence to back up your claims?

[San Lumen]

Possibly.

The Dems have been playing the demographics game for decades now trying to turn as many red states purple as possible.

If Texas turns purple then it's over.

And it will the Republicans own fault depending on rural whites to save them.

[New haven america]

Where, exactly?

There's literally nowhere in the developed world that'd be willing to accept the GOP's far-right extremist positions (Which is basically all of the GOP's beliefs), so you're going to have to go a developing country, but most of those generally tend to be pretty nationalistic, poverty stricken, or undemocratic (Which means you won't get any of the amenities or conveniences you get in a developed nation), so... Where are you going?

I really wish we has an actual far-right party in government.

That doesn't relate to the question at all, and we already do, it's called The Republican Party.

If the Dems took over, where in the world would you go?

[Major-Tom]

And it will the Republicans own fault depending on rural whites to save them.

Yes, how dare they care about rural communities.

Who needs food and electricity? The cities provide everything.

The Republicans don't care about rural communities. If they did, they'd invest in meaningful infrastructure projects, protect the right to affordable healthcare, quality education, and clean air/water within those rural communities. They'd invest further in programs that lift the impoverished out of poverty. They'd support a minimum wage that doesn't allow for third-world levels of impoverishment.

But they don't, so they don't give a flying fuck about rural communities. They just beat their drum about a handful of social issues that pander to rural residents. And, shit, who can blame those in rural communities for voting GOP, after all, it's not like the Clinton or Obama administrations helped them at all beyond passing Obamacare. NAFTA was passed by Clinton, after all. But the fundamental and raw disdain that the current GOP administration has for the working-class harms rural communities directly.

[New haven america]

It will probably happen unless you start reaching out to people other than your rural white base.

Regarding a civil war what are you going to do? March into Philadelphia, Chicago, Denver or Los Angeles and start doing horrible things?

March into all the Dem ran hell holes and Liberate our opressed brothers in the middle class.
As they say the tree of liberty is feed by the blood of Patriots and tyrants, or in this case Republicans and Socialists

Actually... Dem controlled states are better for the middle class than Rep controlled states, mainly because Dem controlled states aren't that into the middle class killer known as Trickle Down Economics.

[New haven america]

And it will the Republicans own fault depending on rural whites to save them.

Yes, how dare they care about rural communities.

Who needs food and electricity? The cities provide everything.

Wow, hasty generalization and a strawman.

We're being busy today.

[Ard al Islam]

Worst case scenario is Yugoslavia meets South Africa.

Don't do that. Don't give me hope.

[Estanglia]

Wow, hasty generalization and a strawman.

We're being busy today.

Busy? Not really. In fact, poking holes in flimsy arguments is quite easy. Almost boring.

Because the argument of "the loss of support the Republicans face is their own fault for pandering to rural communities" is destroyed by... pointing out that rural communities exist?

[Major-Tom]

The Republicans don't care about rural communities. If they did, they'd invest in meaningful infrastructure projects, protect the right to affordable healthcare, quality education, and clean air/water within those rural communities. They'd invest further in programs that lift the impoverished out of poverty. They'd support a minimum wage that doesn't allow for third-world levels of impoverishment.

But they don't, so they don't give a flying fuck about rural communities. They just beat their drum about a handful of social issues that pander to rural residents. And, shit, who can blame those in rural communities for voting GOP, after all, it's not like the Clinton or Obama administrations helped them at all beyond passing Obamacare. NAFTA was passed by Clinton, after all. But the fundamental and raw disdain that the current GOP administration has for the working-class harms rural communities directly.

Rural communities have spent the last decades getting assfucked by administration after administration.

At this point, the Dems have no one to blame but themselves for losing their support.

That doesn't address the main point, that Republicans are horrific for rural communities who need the social services that should be held sacrosanct to merely survive.

Dems haven't been great for rural communities either, and they've done a piss poor job in winning back support by running wishy-washy, uninspiring neoliberal candidates for decades. That is a given. But the notion that a Dem trifecta in the US would wreck rural communities is such a shitty argument considering the wholesale disregard the GOP also has for rural areas.

[New haven america]

The Republicans don't care about rural communities. If they did, they'd invest in meaningful infrastructure projects, protect the right to affordable healthcare, quality education, and clean air/water within those rural communities. They'd invest further in programs that lift the impoverished out of poverty. They'd support a minimum wage that doesn't allow for third-world levels of impoverishment.

But they don't, so they don't give a flying fuck about rural communities. They just beat their drum about a handful of social issues that pander to rural residents. And, shit, who can blame those in rural communities for voting GOP, after all, it's not like the Clinton or Obama administrations helped them at all beyond passing Obamacare. NAFTA was passed by Clinton, after all. But the fundamental and raw disdain that the current GOP administration has for the working-class harms rural communities directly.

Rural communities have spent the last decades getting assfucked by administration after administration.

At this point, the Dems have no one to blame but themselves for losing their support.

You are aware that some of the people hit hardest by Reaganomics are rural and working class people, right?

Also, guess what economic system the Reps. love and support the most. (Hint: It was implemented by Ronald Reagan))

[New haven america]

You are aware that some of the people hit hardest by Reaganomics are rural and working class people, right?

Also, guess what economic system the Reps. love and support the most. (Hint: It was implemented by Ronald Reagan))

1. And yet, strangely, the Democrats remain terrible at appealing to them.

2. You must be running some really shitty candidates if they keep voting for the party that apparently did so much damage to them.

1. Only because the Reps have gutted education in Rural areas and fed them the lie that anything having to do with government run systems is Ebil Socailizm.
2. I'm not a Dem, so assumptions can feck right off. : D

[Cekoviu]

That doesn't address the main point, that Republicans are horrific for rural communities who need the social services that should be held sacrosanct to merely survive.

Dems haven't been great for rural communities either, and they've done a piss poor job in winning back support by running wishy-washy, uninspiring neoliberal candidates for decades. That is a given. But the notion that a Dem trifecta in the US would wreck rural communities is such a shitty argument considering the wholesale disregard the GOP also has for rural areas.

Well, you could try running Bernie but he only really appeals to suburban white kids who get most of their political info from Facebook memes.

Whereas Joe Biden appeals to out-of-touch white boomers who make political Facebook memes. Your point being?

[The Greater Union of Man]

Unless demographic trends change or something drastic happens, yes