Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[Rainbowsix]

Well, using your logic here, look at the quality of life for non-white people in Democrat controlled major cities. Now, they must be racist, right??

A. False equivalency.
B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.

nice dodging me cuz u know ur discriminating and thats pathetic that u discriminate

[Rainbowsix]

B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.

If it's a "false equivalency", how does it prove your point? : P

he's a democrat they dont understand

[New haven america]

A. False equivalency.

Howso?

Single city=The size and variety of an entire state.

[New haven america]

B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.

If it's a "false equivalency", how does it prove your point? : P

Because even when compared to Rep. held cities, they're quality of life is still better.

[New haven america]

A. False equivalency.
B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.

nice dodging me cuz u know ur discriminating and thats pathetic that u discriminate

I wasn't aware you became a Republican politician.

What's your political position and what city/state/county do you represent?

[Telconi]

If it's a "false equivalency", how does it prove your point? : P

Because even when compared to Rep. held cities, they're quality of life is still better.

It's not tho.

[Gagium]

Howso?

Single city=The size and variety of an entire state.

You're right. It's a lot easier to pass laws and affect policy in a city than it is in an entire state.

If it's a "false equivalency", how does it prove your point? : P

Because even when compared to Rep. held cities, they're quality of life is still better.

But it really don't do be like that.

[New haven america]

Single city=The size and variety of an entire state.

1. You're right. It's a lot easier to pass laws and affect policy in a city than it is in an entire state.

Because even when compared to Rep. held cities, they're quality of life is still better.

2. But it really don't do be like that.

1. Which is why the example you used is a false equivalency.
2. California has housing problems, shocking. It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

And that still doesn't prove your point, but please, keep linking random articles, you might find something noteworthy eventually.

[Gagium]

1. You're right. It's a lot easier to pass laws and affect policy in a city than it is in an entire state.


2. But it really don't do be like that.

It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

Certainly. How dare anyone suggest that California's issues may be due to their politicians and liberal billionaires who get them elected - No, clearly it's because of the...uhm, the topograpy!!

But - Hey, you see that poor state with a Republican politician? All their issues stem from their racist, misogynistic politicians!

..Do you even read your own posts?

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

"socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is"

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes. But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

Your idea of what socialism is entirely false, maybe you should crack open a book on the subject sometime since none of it is “socialism is when the government does stuff”.

[Christian Confederation]

Hopefully not, but if it is America is going to break up.
The Republicans aren't just going to sit back and let the Democrats drive the country down like California.
If we can learn anything from 2016 it's that if given the right candidate even the most non voteing Americans to go to the polls and us there right to pick our countrys future.

[The Greater Ohio Valley]

I've read Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto. Socialism is collective or government ownership of the means of production. Income taxes are the government claiming x percent of the means of production as their own. Thus the government effectively owns 30% of the means of production. That's socialism.

Then you clearly didn’t read it hard or thoroughly enough since you’re only half right on the ownership on the means of production, and it isn’t the government part.

[New haven america]

It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

1. Certainly. 2. How dare anyone suggest that California's issues may be due to their politicians and liberal billionaires who get them elected - No, clearly it's because of the...uhm, the topograpy!!

3. But - Hey, you see that poor state with a Republican politician? All their issues stem from their racist, misogynistic politicians!

4. ..Do you even read your own posts?

1. Yes, geography has a massive part to play in real estate. Just look at Oregon an Washington for example, with the most populace areas being the cramped Willamette Valley and Puget Sound, also being expensive as fuck.
2. We know this isn't just a Liberal thing, because outspoken Republicans and Libertarians are also fine with those gentrification issues happening in other areas like New York. (See: Republicans supporting Amazon building their new warehouse in one of the poorer areas of NYC, which would only exacerbate gentrification in that area)
3. Yes, that is true. Places like rural Alabama and Mississippi are comparable to most Sub-Saharan African nations when it comes to development, a situation that isn't happening in any Dem. held state but seems to be pretty common in Rep held states.
4. I disown all of my posts as soon as they're made.

[New haven america]

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes. But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

Your idea of what socialism is entirely false, maybe you should crack open a book on the subject sometime since none of it is “socialism is when the government does stuff”.

He unironically thinks socialism=fascism because the Nazis called themselves National Socialists.

[North Saitama]

2. California has housing problems, shocking. It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

And that still doesn't prove your point, but please, keep linking random articles, you might find something noteworthy eventually.

It is also the 3rd largest state by land area, and with less of a population density than even Guam. Not to mention that you overestimate how much of California is mountainous.

Honestly, I think that you are just trying to make excuses, to avoid blaming California's anti-economic policies for even any degree of responsibility.

And the "hUr DuR rEpUbLiKuNz R bIgOtUd" is just a substance-less strawman. As a lifelong Republican, that is also proud of his Mexican heritage, it drives me crazy.

[Gagium]

1. Certainly. 2. How dare anyone suggest that California's issues may be due to their politicians and liberal billionaires who get them elected - No, clearly it's because of the...uhm, the topograpy!!

3. But - Hey, you see that poor state with a Republican politician? All their issues stem from their racist, misogynistic politicians!

4. ..Do you even read your own posts?

1. Yes, geography has a massive part to play in real estate. Just look at Oregon an Washington for example, with the most populace areas being the cramped Willamette Valley and Puget Sound, also being expensive as fuck.
2. We know this isn't just a Liberal thing, because outspoken Republicans and Libertarians are also fine with those gentrification issues happening in other areas like New York. (See: Republicans supporting Amazon building their new warehouse in one of the poorer areas of NYC, which would only exacerbate gentrification in that area)
3. Yes, that is true. Places like rural Alabama and Mississippi are comparable to most Sub-Saharan African nations when it comes to development, a situation that isn't happening in any Dem. held state but seems to be pretty common in Rep held states.
4. I disown all of my posts as soon as they're made.

1. Politicians are the ones who come up with housing laws. To suggest otherwise would be absurdity. Now, it's not like California doesn't have any spare houses or land.
2. Then why is it a "just Republican thing" when you're talking about lower quality of living in some Republican states?
3. No, rural Alabama and Mississippi is hardly comparable to sub-saharan Africa lmao..I'd love to hear your reasoning on this one though.

[New haven america]

2. California has housing problems, shocking. It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

And that still doesn't prove your point, but please, keep linking random articles, you might find something noteworthy eventually.

1. It is also the 3rd largest state by land area, and with less of a population density than even Guam. Not to mention that you overestimate how much of California is mountainous.

2. Honestly, I think that you are just trying to make excuses, to avoid blaming California's anti-economic policies for even any degree of responsibility.

3. And the "hUr DuR rEpUbLiKuNz R bIgOtUd" is just a substance-less strawman. As a lifelong Republican, that is also proud of his Mexican heritage, it drives me crazy.

1. Not my fault you underestimate geography's effects on real estate.
2. I'm sorry, what? IIRC, California is currently the 5th largest economy in the entire world. How do you get to that position while also have anti-economic policies? I'd be fascinated to learn how that happens.
3. I wasn't aware you were a Republican politician.

What's your political position/level of employment and what city/state/county do you represent?

[Exxosia]

No, because if the democrats get full control, they will schism into at least two sects, like the usual racism-sexism-based democrats we know and a more communistic-socialistic branch.

[New haven america]

1. Yes, geography has a massive part to play in real estate. Just look at Oregon an Washington for example, with the most populace areas being the cramped Willamette Valley and Puget Sound, also being expensive as fuck.
2. We know this isn't just a Liberal thing, because outspoken Republicans and Libertarians are also fine with those gentrification issues happening in other areas like New York. (See: Republicans supporting Amazon building their new warehouse in one of the poorer areas of NYC, which would only exacerbate gentrification in that area)
3. Yes, that is true. Places like rural Alabama and Mississippi are comparable to most Sub-Saharan African nations when it comes to development, a situation that isn't happening in any Dem. held state but seems to be pretty common in Rep held states.
4. I disown all of my posts as soon as they're made.

1. Politicians are the ones who come up with housing laws. To suggest otherwise would be absurdity. Now, it's not like California doesn't have any spare houses or land.
2. Then why is it a "just Republican thing" when you're talking about lower quality of living in some Republican states?
3. No, rural Alabama and Mississippi is hardly comparable to sub-saharan Africa lmao..I'd love to hear your reasoning on this one though.

1. False equivalency, housing laws=/=real estate pricing.
2. I never said it was, that's a position you came up with all on your own.
3. The UN would disagree with your claim.

[Xmara]

Never

[Telconi]

1. Politicians are the ones who come up with housing laws. To suggest otherwise would be absurdity. Now, it's not like California doesn't have any spare houses or land.
2. Then why is it a "just Republican thing" when you're talking about lower quality of living in some Republican states?
3. No, rural Alabama and Mississippi is hardly comparable to sub-saharan Africa lmao..I'd love to hear your reasoning on this one though.

1. False equivalency, housing laws=/=real estate pricing.
2. I never said it was, that's a position you came up with all on your own.
3. The UN would disagree with your claim.

Imagine actually thinking rural southern Americans have equivalent standards of living to sub-saharan Africans.

[Tobleste]

With mass illegal migration into the United States through the southern border, especially if Republicans lose Texas which is very close in that same area do you think Donald Trump will be the last Republican president in the United States. I mean, what other way can the US Republican Party do to continue national electoral relevance without becoming just as the same as the Democrats? A quasi one-party Democrat-controlled WH or federal legislature makes me feel pretty nervous about my country's own future and integrity.

What are the opinions of other NSers particularly from America on this one?

No. There's no evidence illegal immigrants vote in significant numbers but an increasingly diverse and educated electorate is likely to reject Republicans white identity politics. Republicans will continue to restrict voting rights to prolong their power but eventually they will either have to become less powered by white resentment or irrelevant. Eventually, they will choose the former though they'll probably bitch and whine about it.

[Tobleste]

2. California has housing problems, shocking. It's not like it's the most populace state in the entire country with settlements only being able to be built in valley areas and plains due to the mountainous topography or something.

And that still doesn't prove your point, but please, keep linking random articles, you might find something noteworthy eventually.

It is also the 3rd largest state by land area, and with less of a population density than even Guam. Not to mention that you overestimate how much of California is mountainous.

Honestly, I think that you are just trying to make excuses, to avoid blaming California's anti-economic policies for even any degree of responsibility.

And the "hUr DuR rEpUbLiKuNz R bIgOtUd" is just a substance-less strawman. As a lifelong Republican, that is also proud of his Mexican heritage, it drives me crazy.

It's not without substance. Republicans consistently back policies that hurt minorities, oppose immigration, vote disproportionately for white men and flirt with openly racist groups (Trumps "good people" comment, Breitbart, the alt right). Not all Republicans are racists but racists certainly seem to prefer Republicans and it's easy to see why given the last few years.

[Spiritual Republic of Caryton]

If that happens, who wants to join my post-apocalypse Atomwaffen Division neo-Pol Pot Anarcho National Jucheist death cult state with me? I'm sure it'll go swimmingly-- NationStates power!

[Tobleste]

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes. But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

Your idea of what socialism is entirely false, maybe you should crack open a book on the subject sometime since none of it is “socialism is when the government does stuff”.

Many US right wingers are the same. They frequently accuse Obama's attempts to regulate health insurance of being socialism. Using their definition, practically every country on earth uses some sort of socialist policy. I think they honestly believe that everything beyond the US is a Mad Max style dystopia.