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Postby GlobalControl » Thu Nov 28, 2019 1:33 pm

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Postby US-SSR » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:02 pm

I hope to live to see the demise of the Republican Party, which has made itself into a nest of traitorous white supremacist misogynists willing to use any tactic from voter suppression to soliciting foreign interference in order to retain its last shreds of power. In a perfect world it would be supplanted by a party farther to the left of today's Democrats, but in a world where The One Percent control every important aspect of life its replacement will probably be another shill for the oligarchs.

The Republicans faced a choice: begin to appeal to the people who will form a majority of US society or resort to voter suppression, gerrymandering, dirty tricks, foreign interference and outright fraud. They chose badly, and the day will soon come when none of their cheating will be of any use to them. Whether or not the US becomes a permanent large-D Democratic nation, the Republicans' days are numbered.
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Postby UniversalCommons » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:16 pm

You are assuming that the majority of incoming immigrants are democrats. Quite a few of them come from authoritarian regimes and will not identify with the democrats. It is a misreading of the situation.

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Postby Rainbowsix » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:19 pm

i think this forum is just showing how nationstates as a whole is democratic
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Postby Imma be imma be » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:49 pm

I sure hope the opposite happens. Democrats have led to the death of American values, something that is crucial to the existence of freedom worldwide.
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Postby Necroghastia » Thu Nov 28, 2019 3:51 pm

Imma be imma be wrote:I sure hope the opposite happens. Democrats have led to the death of American values, something that is crucial to the existence of freedom worldwide.

What American values have the Democrats doled death upon? Freedom, justice, and liberty are much more in line with their platform than the Republicans from what I've seen.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:01 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:i think this forum is just showing how nationstates as a whole is democratic

NS is international. The US Overton Window is very skewed to the right by contrast. Don’t conflate the two.
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Postby Rainbowsix » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:11 pm

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Kowani wrote:NS is international. The US Overton Window is very skewed to the right by contrast. Don’t conflate the two.

Agreed. Globally Republicans are far-right extremists.

and U.S. democrats r far-left radicals
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Postby San Lumen » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:14 pm

US-SSR wrote:I hope to live to see the demise of the Republican Party, which has made itself into a nest of traitorous white supremacist misogynists willing to use any tactic from voter suppression to soliciting foreign interference in order to retain its last shreds of power. In a perfect world it would be supplanted by a party farther to the left of today's Democrats, but in a world where The One Percent control every important aspect of life its replacement will probably be another shill for the oligarchs.

The Republicans faced a choice: begin to appeal to the people who will form a majority of US society or resort to voter suppression, gerrymandering, dirty tricks, foreign interference and outright fraud. They chose badly, and the day will soon come when none of their cheating will be of any use to them. Whether or not the US becomes a permanent large-D Democratic nation, the Republicans' days are numbered.

Exactly. They don’t seem to realize their rural white base won’t save them much longer and there will come a point their cheating won’t win them elections

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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:14 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Agreed. Globally Republicans are far-right extremists.

and U.S. democrats r far-left radicals

Nope, in most countries the majority would be center right centrists. (Redundant much redundant?)
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Postby Gagium » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:15 pm

US-SSR wrote:white supremacist misogynists

Is this satire?
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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:16 pm

Gagium wrote:
US-SSR wrote:white supremacist misogynists

Is this satire?

IDK, for some reason that have a ton of backing and support from the KKK and those who want to remove women's rights and freedoms, so... care to explain that?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:17 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:
Eternal Lotharia wrote:Agreed. Globally Republicans are far-right extremists.

and U.S. democrats r far-left radicals

…Not at all, actually.
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Postby Gagium » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:17 pm

New haven america wrote:
Gagium wrote:Is this satire?

IDK, for some reason that have a ton of backing and support from the KKK and those who want to remove women's rights and freedoms, so... care to explain that?

I was under the impression that we were talking about Republican politicians, not a minority of their (hardly even) supporters you selected to make them look bad.
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Postby Rainbowsix » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:18 pm

New haven america wrote:
Rainbowsix wrote:and U.S. democrats r far-left radicals

Nope, in most countries the majority would be center right centrists. (Redundant much redundant?)

did you read what i said? I said U.S. democrats are far-left radicals
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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:19 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nope, in most countries the majority would be center right centrists. (Redundant much redundant?)

did you read what i said? I said U.S. democrats are far-left radicals

And you're incorrect, for the 2nd time.

The majority of democrats in the US are center-right centrists. :)
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Postby Alessandretta » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:21 pm

I hope not for the citizens of the United States

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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:22 pm

Gagium wrote:
New haven america wrote:IDK, for some reason that have a ton of backing and support from the KKK and those who want to remove women's rights and freedoms, so... care to explain that?

I was under the impression that we were talking about Republican politicians, not a minority of their (hardly even) supporters you selected to make them look bad.

I mean, Republican politicians are racist and misogynistic assholes.

Just look at the quality of life for non-white people and women in Republican controlled states, or our current Republican held government's attempts and curbing immigration and stomping on women's reproductive rights.
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:23 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:
New haven america wrote:Nope, in most countries the majority would be center right centrists. (Redundant much redundant?)

did you read what i said? I said U.S. democrats are far-left radicals

…This is laughably, horribly untrue.
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Postby Rainbowsix » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:24 pm

New haven america wrote:
Gagium wrote:I was under the impression that we were talking about Republican politicians, not a minority of their (hardly even) supporters you selected to make them look bad.

I mean, Republican politicians are racist and misogynistic assholes.

Just look at the quality of life for non-white people and women in Republican controlled states, or our current Republican held government's attempts and curbing immigration and stomping on women's reproductive rights.

and now u assume that republicans like me are also racist and misogynistic?
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Postby Kowani » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:27 pm

Rainbowsix wrote:
New haven america wrote:I mean, Republican politicians are racist and misogynistic assholes.

Just look at the quality of life for non-white people and women in Republican controlled states, or our current Republican held government's attempts and curbing immigration and stomping on women's reproductive rights.

and now u assume that republicans like me are also racist and misogynistic?

He said politicians. The quality of your knowledge, grammar, and argumentation leads me to believe that you are in no way a politician, surpassing even Dan Quayle.
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Postby Gagium » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:27 pm

New haven america wrote:
Gagium wrote:I was under the impression that we were talking about Republican politicians, not a minority of their (hardly even) supporters you selected to make them look bad.

Just look at the quality of life for non-white people and women in Republican controlled states

Well, using your logic here, look at the quality of life for non-white people in Democrat controlled major cities. Now, they must be racist, right??
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Postby New haven america » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:30 pm

Gagium wrote:
New haven america wrote:Just look at the quality of life for non-white people and women in Republican controlled states

Well, using your logic here, look at the quality of life for non-white people in Democrat controlled major cities. Now, they must be racist, right??

A. False equivalency.
B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.
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Postby Gagium » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:30 pm

New haven america wrote:
Gagium wrote:Well, using your logic here, look at the quality of life for non-white people in Democrat controlled major cities. Now, they must be racist, right??

A. False equivalency.

Howso?
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Postby Gagium » Thu Nov 28, 2019 4:31 pm

New haven america wrote:
Gagium wrote:Well, using your logic here, look at the quality of life for non-white people in Democrat controlled major cities. Now, they must be racist, right??

B. Generally their QoL is better than in Republican states, so this isn't helping your argument in the slightest. So thanks for proving my point.

If it's a "false equivalency", how does it prove your point? : P
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