Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[Antityranicals]

Patent laws shouldn't apply to medical treatments. They're basically monopoly privileges for whomever owns the patent.

Ergo, the solution must be "gummint git out." Christ.

Yup. The market makes everything as cheap as possible.

[Antityranicals]

naahh... I dont' think, in the histoly the party will cahnge position, for example Democratic party originally was pro-slaveray or pro-segregation. The original democrats would be had a hearth attack if discover that Dems now are the party voted by afro-american, and promotes anti-racist politics...

Except they don't... They'd applaud the Democrats efforts to keep African Americans as slaves to the plantation state, where they vote Democrat, and the Democrats give them a bare, subsistence living. Cotton is replaced with votes. The southerners would have wished they were that smart...

[Zurkerx]

Unless the Democratic Party takes over the country and outlaws every political party, then no, we will not be controlled by Democrats permanently.

[Antityranicals]

Unless the Democratic Party takes over the country and outlaws every political party, then no, we will not be controlled by Democrats permanently.

Americans would revolt, then.

[Estanglia]

No.

Even if the Republican Party dies, unless the Democrats create a literal one-party state by banning all other parties, or their policies are so popular/the policies of competitors are so unpopular that no other party can compete, some other party will take its place as the competitor to the Democrats.

[Cekoviu]

Literally wrong. Have you considered learning about socialism from anyone other than Tucker Carlson, such as people who actually were socialist and wrote books about it?

lolk

Tucker Carlson is far too socialist for me...

I've read Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto. Socialism is collective or government ownership of the means of production. Income taxes are the government claiming x percent of the means of production as their own. Thus the government effectively owns 30% of the means of production. That's socialism.

And actually what is Social Security other than a Ponzi scheme?

Reread them.

Yes, it's probably a result of in utero neurological development. And this isn't the thread for that.

No, it has nothing to do with the brain, and everything to do with ones genitalia. There's nothing wrong with being a feminine man, or a masculine woman, but that doesn't make the former a woman, and the latter a man.

I guess it's unsurprising that you have no idea what you're talking about here, as with apparently everything.

Ergo, the solution must be "gummint git out." Christ.

Yup. The market makes everything as cheap as possible.

By making it shitty.

[Nuroblav]

I doubt the US will, but I think Democrats may gain some popularity. They're both terrible anyway.

[Teachian]

If republicans continue to bleed support anywhere outside of farms and small towns then yes. Republicans will be a regional party unable to win congress or the presidency and control of many state governments.

If Texas went blue the Republican are finished as a national party as there Is no path to 270 without it

Might I suggest a civil war then?

I’m still doubtful that civil war would really be as helpful and exciting as a lot of people think it would. Besides the whole death, destruction, and generations-long scars it’d leave on the country, it’s also not the right response to losing free and fair elections.

Republicans simply losing is not synonymous with ideological suppression or a one-party state. San Lumen’s scenario is more of a wake up call for them to increase appeal, or for a new party to appear that will. Just because Republicans are having difficulty doesn’t mean everyone’s unquestionably voting Democrat.

[The Sapmi]

Maybe I'm not the best person to be talking about this (don't live in America and never have) but I personally feel like this isn't so. I don't know if the Republican Party can survive this scandal, but it survived Watergate, so it's safe, for now...
When many of the older voters die out (grim as that may seem), I feel it would take a rebranding of the Republican Party for it to live on in any meaningful way. By this, I simply mean shifting away from the current more traditionalist roots. This isn't hard - there has been a switch in the ideals of the parties in the past. When Lincoln was in charge he seems to have been quite liberal (although nowadays he would likely be a social conservative), and whilst yes, the Democrats did found the KKK, most of that crowd did leave or was dead by the time of JFK and the Civil Rights Act.
Again, this rebranding wouldn't be hard. Just removing the anti-abortion and gay marriage campaigning and loosening the regulations on immigration and opposition to climate-change regulation would likely be enough to de-radicalise and put it on par with their EU counterparts, whilst still keeping one or two of their modern policies (healthcare would likely remain and lax regulations, if it is indeed relevant).
If it falls? The next right-wing party would likely be the Libertarians. They aren't that socially conservative, but their economic policies are likely further to the economic-right than the GOP. They're also the 3rd largest party as of now, so... yeah.
Please do telegram me if you feel I have got any thoughts wrong, as I don't really focus on the forums.

[Saciu]

A) Not enough people hate Trump
B) Democrats could screw up majorly
C) People will eventually lose the association between the Reps and Trump

[The Union of the West]

Probably not. Party ideologies will shift so the two-party system stays viable. That said, mainstream politics continues to move left, and the views currently held by the Democratic Party will likely become dominant for a while, regardless of which party is espousing them.

[Arthenius]

Even Israel isn't as insane as the GOP economics-wise, and in term of domestic issues, it is a head and shoulders superior to the GOP on its own social policy towards its own citizens. The only thing Israel has in common with the GOP is the corruption of its politicians and some of Likud's rhetoric towards its Arab citizens.

You think the GOP is insane economics-wise? Sometimes it actually scares me how socialist they've become lately... imagine supporting Social Security...

I am not inherently opposed by social security.

[Genivaria]

Of course it fucking won't.

[Hakons]

Haven't people been saying this since Bill Clinton? The Republican party is extremely healthy. It's less powerful that it was in 2016, but in 2016 the GOP had an insane amount of success.

[Arthenius]

Probably not. Party ideologies will shift so the two-party system stays viable. That said, mainstream politics continues to move left, and the views currently held by the Democratic Party will likely become dominant for a while, regardless of which party is espousing them.

Another better question is why is mainstream politics only moving left? Do you think it's possible this can or can not be a mere coincidence?

[North German Realm]

Probably not. Party ideologies will shift so the two-party system stays viable. That said, mainstream politics continues to move left, and the views currently held by the Democratic Party will likely become dominant for a while, regardless of which party is espousing them.

Another better question is why is mainstream politics only moving left? Do you think it's possible this can or can not be a mere coincidence?

I mean it's nothing new. Societies have been moving left for a long while now, pretty much ever since people decided that maybe franchise was a good thing.

[Telconi]

Another better question is why is mainstream politics only moving left? Do you think it's possible this can or can not be a mere coincidence?

I mean it's nothing new. Societies have been moving left for a long while now, pretty much ever since people decided that maybe franchise was a good thing.

Unless you're Russian, or most of eastern Europe.

[GlobalControl]

Doubtful.

Honestly before that happens I expect shit to hit the fan.
As much as I don't want that to happen and all.

But as this timeline seems to be the crazy one, It might happen.

[Hakons]

Probably not. Party ideologies will shift so the two-party system stays viable. That said, mainstream politics continues to move left, and the views currently held by the Democratic Party will likely become dominant for a while, regardless of which party is espousing them.

Another better question is why is mainstream politics only moving left? Do you think it's possible this can or can not be a mere coincidence?

We know from history, quite obviously, that there isn't a permanent left-ward trend.

[Rojava Free State]

Doubtful.

Honestly before that happens I expect shit to hit the fan.
As much as I don't want that to happen and all.

But as this timeline seems to be the crazy one, It might happen.

I'm convinced that we live in the southpark universe

[North German Realm]

I mean it's nothing new. Societies have been moving left for a long while now, pretty much ever since people decided that maybe franchise was a good thing.

Unless you're Russian, or most of eastern Europe.

"Left" doesn't mean communist in this context. Going from a totalitarian dictatorship to a democracy with universal franchise -even if it is an extremely corrupt one- is still a leftward shift.

[Liriena]

Nope, and some liberal Democrats need to stop leaving the fate of the American left in the hands of a passive blind faith in some sort of demographic destiny.

The future always turns out a lot weirder than it was originally predicted. The GOP was convinced in 2012 that they were demographically doomed and needed to shift left socially, and now they hold the presidency and the senate partially because they shifted so much further right that we need to talk about them managing a bunch of concentration camps for tots.

[Teachian]

Probably not. Party ideologies will shift so the two-party system stays viable. That said, mainstream politics continues to move left, and the views currently held by the Democratic Party will likely become dominant for a while, regardless of which party is espousing them.

Another better question is why is mainstream politics only moving left? Do you think it's possible this can or can not be a mere coincidence?

It’s got to move in some direction, and left is one of them. It doesn’t necessarily need to move left, but I wouldn’t be suspicious if a country had a rightward drift- those are the two main directions after all.

More specifically, I would argue it’s because the U.S. has been pretty right for a while now. I’m not saying whether it’s right or wrong, but many of the growing demographics/trends find some form of universal healthcare appealing amongst other forms of government support, which was off the table for a long time. In that context, I think the leftward shift is more towards a new political balance.

[Arlenton]

Anyone who knows the basics of politics and elections could tell you the answer.

[Nuroblav]

Doubtful.

Honestly before that happens I expect shit to hit the fan.
As much as I don't want that to happen and all.

But as this timeline seems to be the crazy one, It might happen.

I'm convinced that we live in the southpark universe

Yeah if only US went to war with Canada and Koᴙn went around solving mysteries.