Will the US become permanently Democrat-controlled?

[Greed and Death]

ITT: People worrying about one party dominating US politics for an extended period. No, not the crypto-fascist one that is increasingly abandoning the "crypto-" part, the other one. Yes, the sane one that is liberal, pro-democracy, and objectively broadly good*. Yes that one. Pearl-clutching at its finest.

*The Bernie communist fringe aside. Thankfully they have absolutely, positively no power aside from getting armchair revolutionaries excited and posting on their socialist subreddit of choice.

Objectively good ? They want the mandate that is objectively evil.

[Cekoviu]

No, lol.

[Cekoviu]

ITT: People worrying about one party dominating US politics for an extended period. No, not the crypto-fascist one that is increasingly abandoning the "crypto-" part, the other one. Yes, the sane one that is liberal, pro-democracy, and objectively broadly good*. Yes that one. Pearl-clutching at its finest.

*The Bernie communist fringe aside. Thankfully they have absolutely, positively no power aside from getting armchair revolutionaries excited and posting on their socialist subreddit of choice.

Objectively good ? They want the mandate that is objectively evil.

Explain.

[Antityranicals]

Israel

Even Israel isn't as insane as the GOP economics-wise, and in term of domestic issues, it is a head and shoulders superior to the GOP on its own social policy towards its own citizens. The only thing Israel has in common with the GOP is the corruption of its politicians and some of Likud's rhetoric towards its Arab citizens.

You think the GOP is insane economics-wise? Sometimes it actually scares me how socialist they've become lately... imagine supporting Social Security...

[Necroghastia]

No, the very idea that shifting demographics could put those damned socialists in power is ludicrous.

The idea that the mainstream Democrats are in any way shape or form socialist is ludicrous.

Whatever the media may say, Mr. Trump appeals to minorities better than any other Republican president or presidential candidate in the 21st century (That's not saying much, I'll grant, but it's true...).

Based on what?

What I'm seeing is the Democratic Party turning into a cult. If you don't believe in outright socialism,

See point #1.

post-birth abortion,

lmfao what

and being able to change gender at will,

Pretty sure even genderfluid peeps have a hard time with that.

you have no place in the modern Democratic Party. Such a party will never be electable. The Republican party, however, is becoming the inclusive party,

with everyone from libertarians to rust belt union members turning towards it. I'm seeing fifty years of Republican dominance in our future, unless the Democratic party makes some serious changes...

If there's fifty years of Republican dominance via legitimate elections, I'll eat an entire hat collection.

[Greed and Death]

Objectively good ? They want the mandate that is objectively evil.

Explain.

People don't want to buy insurance or to associate with private health insurance companies, a majority in poll after poll want to get rid of the mandate. The whole argument that we needed the mandate or the health insurance market would collapse because we got rid of it turned out to be bunk. Yet the Biden wing of the party clings to bringing it back.

[Cekoviu]

Explain.

People don't want to buy insurance or to associate with private health insurance companies, a majority in poll after poll want to get rid of the mandate. The whole argument that we needed the mandate or the health insurance market would collapse because we got rid of it turned out to be bunk. Yet the Biden wing of the party clings to bringing it back.

Oh yeah, well fuck the Biden wing. We need universal healthcare.

[Antityranicals]

No, the very idea that shifting demographics could put those damned socialists in power is ludicrous.

The idea that the mainstream Democrats are in any way shape or form socialist is ludicrous.

Whatever the media may say, Mr. Trump appeals to minorities better than any other Republican president or presidential candidate in the 21st century (That's not saying much, I'll grant, but it's true...).

Based on what?

What I'm seeing is the Democratic Party turning into a cult. If you don't believe in outright socialism,

See point #1.

post-birth abortion,

lmfao what

and being able to change gender at will,

Pretty sure even genderfluid peeps have a hard time with that.

you have no place in the modern Democratic Party. Such a party will never be electable. The Republican party, however, is becoming the inclusive party,

with everyone from libertarians to rust belt union members turning towards it. I'm seeing fifty years of Republican dominance in our future, unless the Democratic party makes some serious changes...

If there's fifty years of Republican dominance via legitimate elections, I'll eat an entire hat collection.

1. Even Mainstream Republicans are significantly socialist. Next to none of them will even fight against the bankrupt socialist morass of Social Security.
2. Based on the fact that he's doing more for them than any president probably since Lincoln...
3. See point one yourself.
4. Virginia governor Ralph Northam came out in support of letting the mother decide to kill an already born baby.
5. Call it what you will, I'm talking about the idea that something in your brain determines your gender.
6. How do you think Trump won Michigan? Pennsylvania? Wisconsin? The Democrats don't even realize how disconnected they are from everyone but their fellow cult members on the east and west coast.
7. Hope your digestive system is ready...

[Nazariles]

Nope, and I consider this assumption of a 1000-year old Democrat Nation to be simplistic. Even though the Millennials and Generation Z currently are much more to the left than their previous generations, a lot of events may occur in the future that will serve as a foundation for a political shift among future generations. I think it is highly likely that the two-party system will be more and more endangered in the years to come.

[Antityranicals]

People don't want to buy insurance or to associate with private health insurance companies, a majority in poll after poll want to get rid of the mandate. The whole argument that we needed the mandate or the health insurance market would collapse because we got rid of it turned out to be bunk. Yet the Biden wing of the party clings to bringing it back.

Oh yeah, well fuck the Biden wing. We need universal healthcare.

It would be so cheap that we'd effectively have it if the government would just step out of it...

[Cekoviu]

The idea that the mainstream Democrats are in any way shape or form socialist is ludicrous.

Based on what?

See point #1.

lmfao what

Pretty sure even genderfluid peeps have a hard time with that.



If there's fifty years of Republican dominance via legitimate elections, I'll eat an entire hat collection.

1. Even Mainstream Republicans are significantly socialist. Next to none of them will even fight against the bankrupt socialist morass of Social Security.

"socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is"

[Cekoviu]

Oh yeah, well fuck the Biden wing. We need universal healthcare.

It would be so cheap that we'd effectively have it if the government would just step out of it...

lmfao

[Antityranicals]

1. Even Mainstream Republicans are significantly socialist. Next to none of them will even fight against the bankrupt socialist morass of Social Security.

"socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is"

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes. But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

[Minimark]

Thats what everyone thought in 2008. Thats what republicans thought in the 1980s. That what Republicans thought after the Civil War and World War 1. Thats what democrats thought after the Stock Market Crash. Politics is always changing, and we are due for either a new prominent party, a great shift, or some mass ideological change. People of different races seem biased currently but they will flip. They always do. It might take longer but Americans are great at pinning all their problems on one person and therefore changing who is in power.

[Antityranicals]

It would be so cheap that we'd effectively have it if the government would just step out of it...

lmfao

Patent laws shouldn't apply to medical treatments. They're basically monopoly privileges for whomever owns the patent.

[North German Realm]

People don't want to buy insurance or to associate with private health insurance companies, a majority in poll after poll want to get rid of the mandate. The whole argument that we needed the mandate or the health insurance market would collapse because we got rid of it turned out to be bunk. Yet the Biden wing of the party clings to bringing it back.

Oh yeah, well fuck the Biden wing. We need universal healthcare.

Not gonna lie, the Biden wing would be one of the "two parties" if Republicans were to ever gtfo. The Establishment Democrats don't seem to want to become sane anytime soon even in the face of Republican extremism so, you know.

[Necroghastia]

The idea that the mainstream Democrats are in any way shape or form socialist is ludicrous.

Based on what?

See point #1.

lmfao what

Pretty sure even genderfluid peeps have a hard time with that.



If there's fifty years of Republican dominance via legitimate elections, I'll eat an entire hat collection.

1. Even Mainstream Republicans are significantly socialist. Next to none of them will even fight against the bankrupt socialist morass of Social Security.

Oh!!!! The horror, the horror!!!!!
If that's what you call significantly socialist, I don't know what to tell you. I suppose you're against public education as well.

2. Based on the fact that he's doing more for them than any president probably since Lincoln...

Like...?

4. Virginia governor Ralph Northam came out in support of letting the mother decide to kill an already born baby.

Sauce pls.

5. Call it what you will, I'm talking about the idea that something in your brain determines your gender.

So, not changing gender at will, then. Glad to see you admit that part was BS. And what's so hard to grasp about that? I thought you libertarians were all about personal autonomy and not letting anyone else determine your affairs and stuff.

6. How do you think Trump won Michigan? Pennsylvania? Wisconsin? The Democrats don't even realize how disconnected they are from everyone but their fellow cult members on the east and west coast.

Daily reminder that Trump lost the popular vote. Also, source on his poll numbers amongst minorities?

7. Hope your digestive system is ready...

On the extremely off chance that I would have to do that.
I've never gotten sick from Taco Bell, so that's something.

[Jabberwocky]

Both parties act like recalcitrant 7th graders on the playground. It's embarrassing. Aristocrats on parade. Trump is our Louis XVI.

[Cekoviu]

"socialism is when the government does stuff and the more stuff it does, the more socialister it is"

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes.

Literally wrong. Have you considered learning about socialism from anyone other than Tucker Carlson, such as people who actually were socialist and wrote books about it?

But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

lolk

[Cekoviu]

lmfao

Patent laws shouldn't apply to medical treatments. They're basically monopoly privileges for whomever owns the patent.

Ergo, the solution must be "gummint git out." Christ.

[Antityranicals]

Oh!!!! The horror, the horror!!!!!
If that's what you call significantly socialist, I don't know what to tell you. I suppose you're against public education as well.

Like...?

Sauce pls.

So, not changing gender at will, then. Glad to see you admit that part was BS. And what's so hard to grasp about that? I thought you libertarians were all about personal autonomy and not letting anyone else determine your affairs and stuff.

Daily reminder that Trump lost the popular vote. Also, source on his poll numbers amongst minorities?

On the extremely off chance that I would have to do that.
I've never gotten sick from Taco Bell, so that's something.

1. Actually, I am. It's totally obsolete in the age of the internet. People can get a better education there than public for next to nothing.
2. Cutting regulations and corporate tax cuts which hurt the poor far more than they could ever hurt big business. Big business can raise prices, African Americans can't. The less regulations and taxes, the less money it costs to live, the less people on the streets. And the results are showing.
5. I am, but gender is simply a matter of biology in nearly all cases. If one was born with a penis, he is a male. If one was born with a vagina, she is a female. Not hard.
6. Trump didn't campaign for the popular vote. If he did, he would have won 54% by campaigning in California and New York. The popular vote as it is is irrelevant, though. The electoral college elects the president, so that's what he campaigned for. Polls have a significant leftist bias because Democrats are more likely to respond than Republicans.

[Cekoviu]

I am, but gender is simply a matter of biology in nearly all cases.

Yes, it's probably a result of in utero neurological development. And this isn't the thread for that.

[Antityranicals]

If it does stuff with money from income taxes, yes.

Literally wrong. Have you considered learning about socialism from anyone other than Tucker Carlson, such as people who actually were socialist and wrote books about it?

But Social Security is its own special, dysfunctional brand of socialism. It's basically a government mandated Ponzi scheme, nothing more to be said.

lolk

Tucker Carlson is far too socialist for me...

I've read Das Kapital and the Communist Manifesto. Socialism is collective or government ownership of the means of production. Income taxes are the government claiming x percent of the means of production as their own. Thus the government effectively owns 30% of the means of production. That's socialism.

And actually what is Social Security other than a Ponzi scheme?

[Antityranicals]

I am, but gender is simply a matter of biology in nearly all cases.

Yes, it's probably a result of in utero neurological development. And this isn't the thread for that.

No, it has nothing to do with the brain, and everything to do with ones genitalia. There's nothing wrong with being a feminine man, or a masculine woman, but that doesn't make the former a woman, and the latter a man.

[Alinghi Federal-Democratic Republic]

naahh... I dont' think, in the histoly the party will cahnge position, for example Democratic party originally was pro-slaveray or pro-segregation. The original democrats would be had a hearth attack if discover that Dems now are the party voted by afro-american, and promotes anti-racist politics...