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New Update on the Situation (3)

Postby ArenaC » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:00 pm

The Senate has passed the stopgap funding bill to the President, so it really is in his hands now. And now, we can only hope.



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Postby Tombradyonia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:20 pm

Diopolis wrote:We should just shut the feds down permanently. Anything worthwhile they do can be turned over to the states.


Good. Us bluestaters are sick and tired of our money being redistributed to worthless lazy taker red states with their incompetent state governments. The sooner, the better I'd say.
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Postby Ashlea » Thu Nov 21, 2019 2:24 pm

This is not at all surprising. With arguments between the left and right over the impeachment hearings it is shocking that they could come up with a short-term funding bill at all. Trump will likely throw a fit and refuse to sign though.

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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:02 pm

Ah shit, here we go again
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:03 pm

Ashlea wrote:This is not at all surprising. With arguments between the left and right over the impeachment hearings it is shocking that they could come up with a short-term funding bill at all. Trump will likely throw a fit and refuse to sign though.


Trump has proven before that he'll take the country to hell, put lives in danger and cause chaos and hellish misery...just to own the libs, and anyone else he doesn't get along with.

His record is like 35 days. Let's see if he beats it
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Postby Kamcha » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:07 pm

Rojava Free State wrote:Ah shit, here we go again


My reaction to seeing this in the activity list:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyxm8cjMSCo

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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:38 pm

Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump or something related to him caused another shutdown, it’s almost like he’s trying for a record for most amount of shutdown and furlough days during a single administration.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:41 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump or something related to him caused another shutdown, it’s almost like he’s trying for a record for most amount of shutdown and furlough days during a single administration.


I think they call that fiscal conservatism.
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Postby The Greater Ohio Valley » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:44 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump or something related to him caused another shutdown, it’s almost like he’s trying for a record for most amount of shutdown and furlough days during a single administration.


I think they call that fiscal conservatism.

I believe it’s actually called vindictiveness.
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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:47 pm

The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I think they call that fiscal conservatism.

I believe it’s actually called vindictiveness.


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Postby Yahaba » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:49 pm

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:52 pm

Telconi wrote:
The Greater Ohio Valley wrote:Wouldn’t surprise me if Trump or something related to him caused another shutdown, it’s almost like he’s trying for a record for most amount of shutdown and furlough days during a single administration.


I think they call that fiscal conservatism.

Except that under Trump there has been an increase in the debt an deficit.
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Postby Rojava Free State » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:55 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I think they call that fiscal conservatism.

Except that under Trump there has been an increase in the debt an deficit.


You mean that a man who has had several businesses go bankrupt has plunged us deeper into debt? And he's also the man who wants to build a wall and have a space force? Shocker. All this time I thought trump was a genius
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Postby Telconi » Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:56 pm

Neutraligon wrote:
Telconi wrote:
I think they call that fiscal conservatism.

Except that under Trump there has been an increase in the debt an deficit.


That's the joke...
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:24 pm

Why so I not see this reflected in the news?

EDIT: ok, there's an article buried in USA Today, seems he signed it after all.
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:33 pm

Bombadil wrote:Why so I not see this reflected in the news?

EDIT: ok, there's an article buried in USA Today, seems he signed it after all.

Whew, that's good. I like the kid who delivers the sacks of sweet, sweet tax money to my house and I'd hate to see him not get paid.
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Update 4 on the Situation

Postby ArenaC » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:39 pm

Trump has signed the short term spending bill.
We’re safe.. for now.



This is the final update on this situation, and if all goes to plan, this thread will soon be closed.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:41 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:Why so I not see this reflected in the news?

EDIT: ok, there's an article buried in USA Today, seems he signed it after all.

Whew, that's good. I like the kid who delivers the sacks of sweet, sweet tax money to my house and I'd hate to see him not get paid.


I have to assume they said it was something else, like paying off some stripper, as opposed to the funding bill.
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Postby ArenaC » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:42 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Whew, that's good. I like the kid who delivers the sacks of sweet, sweet tax money to my house and I'd hate to see him not get paid.


I have to assume they said it was something else, like paying off some stripper, as opposed to the funding bill.

Nope, can verify he signed the bill
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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:44 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Whew, that's good. I like the kid who delivers the sacks of sweet, sweet tax money to my house and I'd hate to see him not get paid.


I have to assume they said it was something else, like paying off some stripper, as opposed to the funding bill.

Strippers need to eat, too.
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Postby Bombadil » Thu Nov 21, 2019 6:46 pm

ArenaC wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
I have to assume they said it was something else, like paying off some stripper, as opposed to the funding bill.

Nope, can verify he signed the bill


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Postby Page » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:45 am

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Page wrote:These shutdowns are utterly absurd. There is no good reason to close national parks and other services. It's not like money ceases to exist when a mew budget is a few days late.


But it does become illegal to spend.


That was my point, change the law.
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Postby Nakena » Fri Nov 22, 2019 1:50 am

Shutdown has been prevented.

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Postby Telconi » Fri Nov 22, 2019 4:34 am

Page wrote:
Telconi wrote:
But it does become illegal to spend.


That was my point, change the law.


Let's not. Control if funding is an important aspect of our legislature.
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Postby Thermodolia » Fri Nov 22, 2019 5:07 am

Telconi wrote:
Page wrote:
That was my point, change the law.


Let's not. Control if funding is an important aspect of our legislature.

The legislature had control of funding long before shutdowns where a thing. Shutdowns aren’t something the founders envisioned at all.
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