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Postby Kernen » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:39 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kernen wrote:I found that a very fine grind is actually only good for a short steep. You get off flavors much faster wit an espresso grind in a non-espresso maker.


Interesting.


It makes sense. More surface area to volume means faster extraction of all the various chemicals in the grounds. If you get off flavors from oversteeping, you're bound to get them faster with a finer grind.

I try not to steep my very find grounds more than 3-5 mins. 3 probably being better, and usually with just under boiling water. I go to the line on my grinder between Medium and Fine for most french press coffee.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 5:58 pm

Kernen wrote:
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Compared to a Keriug or a mr. Coffee like machine? Pfft., I say, pfft

You need to hand wash a French press to do it right.

Yeah, that isn't terribly hard, I found. Am I just used to working more for quality?

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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:00 pm

Kernen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
The base, no, the filter, yes.


Loosen the screw and hit it with the sink hose.


Toss the K cup into the trash, and pop in a new one.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:01 pm

Kernen wrote:
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Yeah that's why I stopped using mine too :lol: Grinding the beans super super super fine helped somewhat, but still wasn't that great.

I found that a very fine grind is actually only good for a short steep. You get off flavors much faster wit an espresso grind in a non-espresso maker.


^this is true
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Postby Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:04 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kernen wrote:French presses are not that hard to clean.


The base, no, the filter, yes.


You're using too fine a grind. French press needs a coarse grind, both so you can plunge without too much pressure, and so you can clean the filter in literally two seconds under a faucet.

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Postby Kernen » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:08 pm

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kernen wrote:
Loosen the screw and hit it with the sink hose.


Toss the K cup into the trash, and pop in a new one.

Too much plastic waste.
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Postby Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:09 pm

Kernen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Toss the K cup into the trash, and pop in a new one.

Too much plastic waste.


Not to mention money.

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Postby Cisairse » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:10 pm

Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
The base, no, the filter, yes.


You're using too fine a grind. French press needs a coarse grind, both so you can plunge without too much pressure, and so you can clean the filter in literally two seconds under a faucet.


I have a blade grinder so that's not too much in my control
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Postby Ethel mermania » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:11 pm

Kernen wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Toss the K cup into the trash, and pop in a new one.

Too much plastic waste.


Put a gun to mr. Keruig’s head and make them biodegradable

The problem is the coffee they put out is thin. It doesn’t get any easier and quicker to clean. It is the perfect device for instant gratification for the caffeine addicted masses, You know, like me
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Postby Kernen » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:12 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
You're using too fine a grind. French press needs a coarse grind, both so you can plunge without too much pressure, and so you can clean the filter in literally two seconds under a faucet.


I have a blade grinder so that's not too much in my control

Invest in a burr grinder. You will thank yourself for it.

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kernen wrote:Too much plastic waste.


Put a gun to mr. Keruig’s head and make them biodegradable

The problem is the coffee they put out is thin. It doesn’t get any easier and quicker to clean. It is the perfect device for instant gratification for the caffeine addicted masses, You know, like me

I will freely admit that I crush the free Kcups at work.
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Postby Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles » Mon Apr 06, 2020 6:15 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Nattily Dressed Anarchists on Bicycles wrote:
You're using too fine a grind. French press needs a coarse grind, both so you can plunge without too much pressure, and so you can clean the filter in literally two seconds under a faucet.


I have a blade grinder so that's not too much in my control


I don't have a grinder at all, and it take me maybe two minutes to restore by french press to out-of-the-box condition daily.

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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:39 am

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
The Black Forrest wrote:
They don’t ship?


Under normal circumstances, yes. Due to CoVID19 quarantines and enforced lockdowns in PR? Not right now. I’ll order some more once this emergency passes.


They have a site or email? I am always open to trying new things. :)
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Postby The Black Forrest » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:41 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Kernen wrote:Too much plastic waste.


Put a gun to mr. Keruig’s head and make them biodegradable

The problem is the coffee they put out is thin. It doesn’t get any easier and quicker to clean. It is the perfect device for instant gratification for the caffeine addicted masses, You know, like me


My mother has one. She said coffee wise its kind of weak. She stopped using it as she doesn’t like the waste. Keruig has to come up with a reuse or as you said biodegradable.....
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Postby Cisairse » Tue Apr 07, 2020 9:42 am

The Black Forrest wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
Put a gun to mr. Keruig’s head and make them biodegradable

The problem is the coffee they put out is thin. It doesn’t get any easier and quicker to clean. It is the perfect device for instant gratification for the caffeine addicted masses, You know, like me


My mother has one. She said coffee wise its kind of weak. She stopped using it as she doesn’t like the waste. Keruig has to come up with a reuse or as you said biodegradable.....


You can easily buy a re-usable Kcup. There's like four different kinds and they cost maybe a few bucks each.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 10:30 am

I had a very nice latte from Dunkin Donuts this morning.
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Postby Kernen » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:48 am

Cisairse wrote:I had a very nice latte from Dunkin Donuts this morning.

That's not coffee.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:56 am

Kernen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:I had a very nice latte from Dunkin Donuts this morning.

That's not coffee.


Espresso is definitely coffee.
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Postby Kernen » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:58 am

Cisairse wrote:
Kernen wrote:That's not coffee.


Espresso is definitely coffee.

Latte is not coffee. It was coffee before you messed with it.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:59 am

Kernen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Espresso is definitely coffee.

Latte is not coffee. It was coffee before you messed with it.

bruh
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 09, 2020 11:59 am

Kernen wrote:
Cisairse wrote:
Espresso is definitely coffee.

Latte is not coffee. It was coffee before you messed with it.

Seconded.
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:00 pm

how does adding milk to coffee make it not coffee
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Postby Ethel mermania » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:04 pm

Cisairse wrote:how does adding milk to coffee make it not coffee

A latte is adding a drop of coffee to milk.
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:04 pm

Cisairse wrote:how does adding milk to coffee make it not coffee


Because milk in coffee is big gay
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Postby Cisairse » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:07 pm

Kragholm Free States wrote:
Cisairse wrote:how does adding milk to coffee make it not coffee


Because milk in coffee is big gay

Ethel mermania wrote:
Cisairse wrote:how does adding milk to coffee make it not coffee

A latte is adding a drop of coffee to milk.


forgive me for wanting my stomach lining to last all day lmfao
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Postby Kragholm Free States » Thu Apr 09, 2020 12:11 pm

Cisairse wrote:
Kragholm Free States wrote:
Because milk in coffee is big gay

Ethel mermania wrote:A latte is adding a drop of coffee to milk.


forgive me for wanting my stomach lining to last all day lmfao


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