Are religion and science compatible?

[Neutraligon]

How can you be sure of that?

Well,that's the point is it not ?

If the religion teaches truth, religion and science are not incompatable. Science might get things wrong a few times but eventually they will agree.
If the religion teaches falsehoods,it and science will clash.

Except for one thing, if a religion just happens to be true, then that does not mean it is compatible with science, since science is not just about what you know but also about ho you came around to that knowledge and if you can support said knowledge through experimentation. Religions on the other hand tend not to change core beliefs, even if those beliefs are shown to be wrong because there is no method to testing or changing those core beliefs.

As a muslim, our religion has made hundreds of discoveries. While I can not say our religion is exactly fully pro-science, we have some scientific aspects to it. Yeah, it could be compatible.

No, your religion did not make any discoveries, those who practiced your religion did, there is a difference.

[Imbalistan]

Well,that's the point is it not ?

If the religion teaches truth, religion and science are not incompatable. Science might get things wrong a few times but eventually they will agree.
If the religion teaches falsehoods,it and science will clash.

Except for one thing, if a religion just happens to be true, then that does not mean it is compatible with science, since science is not just about what you know but also about ho you came around to that knowledge and if you can support said knowledge through experimentation. Religions on the other hand tend not to change core beliefs, even if those beliefs are shown to be wrong because there is no method to testing or changing those core beliefs.

As a muslim, our religion has made hundreds of discoveries. While I can not say our religion is exactly fully pro-science, we have some scientific aspects to it. Yeah, it could be compatible.

No, your religion did not make any discoveries, those who practiced your religion did, there is a difference.

I mis-worded that. People who have followed my religion have made discoveries, to be specific.

[Neutraligon]

Except for one thing, if a religion just happens to be true, then that does not mean it is compatible with science, since science is not just about what you know but also about ho you came around to that knowledge and if you can support said knowledge through experimentation. Religions on the other hand tend not to change core beliefs, even if those beliefs are shown to be wrong because there is no method to testing or changing those core beliefs.
No, your religion did not make any discoveries, those who practiced your religion did, there is a difference.

I mis-worded that. People who have followed my religion have made discoveries, to be specific.

Yep, but does that mean that the religion itself is compatible, I would say not. If for instance in some future it was shown that Islam not only did not match a well supported scientific finding, but in fact was in direct opposition to it, would the religion change to match the science? At best I would think we would get what many Christians do...which is claim that the bible (Koran) does not say/mean what the plain text reading of it says.

[Lower Nubia]

Yes.

[Estanglia]

Depends upon the religion, mostly.

I don't think that they're inherently compatible or incompatible. As long as a religion has no core beliefs that can be challenged by science and/or is willing to change/interpret these beliefs differently, then I don't think it will be incompatible.

[Valrifell]

There will always be room for a "god of the gaps" since even the scientific method and mathematics have limits to the number of things they can prove.

pretty much anything can be proven, if you gather a research team of unbiased scientists, give them access to sufficient funding and equipment and they'd certainly come to a conclusion. The only problem is lack of funding for research like this, and maybe that's a good thing since instead of doing this earlier they proved the existence of the Higgs boson.

You can not experimentally confirm or disconfirm everything. Whether or not you want to consider these cases or immediately take them to be false is up to you, like the existence of any kind of "higher power," for instance.

[Kowani]

Nah.

[Czechostan]

Asking if religion and science are compatible is like asking if biology and history are compatible. They're ultimately two different disciplines searching for two different things, though, with plenty of overlap. Furthermore, there are many differing schools of thought on how we should be religious, as there are different schools of thought on how we should be scientific. Some of them accept a greater overlap of the two than others.

[Romanian Sultanate]

As an Orthodox Christian,I say Yes,They are compatible.

[Hammer Britannia]

Nah.

What about Atheismo?

[Aureumterra]

Science explains how things happened, for example, how the world was created, how the dinosaurs died, etc. Religion explains why, the world was created because God willed it to happen, the dinosaurs died to pave way for man, etc.

It really depends on your interpretation, and this is one of the rare times I’ll praise the Catholic Church, but credit given where credit is due, unlike many protestant schools, the Catholic Church has liberalized its beliefs to align with evolution and other scientific ideas over the years.

[Ayytaly]

Not really. It all depends on what science is used for that causes religion to be used as a counterpoint. We're talking about a field that gave us both the flu vaccine and the atom bomb on the same century.

[Risottia]

Yes, as long as religion accepts the fact that science > myth when talking the real world.

[Kowani]

Nah.

What about Atheismo?

Atheism, being a lack of belief, makes no judgement on the truth-value of science. The two aren’t compatible or incompatible. Religion, however, tends to make claims that can be challenged by scientific inquiry, which is why they aren’t compatible (and in the case of atheism, incomparable.)

Asking if religion and science are compatible is like asking if biology and history are compatible. They're ultimately two different disciplines searching for two different things, though, with plenty of overlap. Furthermore, there are many differing schools of thought on how we should be religious, as there are different schools of thought on how we should be scientific. Some of them accept a greater overlap of the two than others.

The greatest fraud ever created was the idea of non-overlapping magisteria.

[The Hindustani State]

Yes! Science cannot explain what happens to your consciousness when you die, or why the laws of physics are what they are. You need religion to answer those.

It depends what religion. Many eastern religions seek to explain the universe in an almost scientific way and encourage their followers to discover the truth about life on their own, which promotes education. Taoism is known for being a religion filled with chemists and botanists.

Well for Hinduism, we believe universe isn’t controlled by a superior deity, but rather the universe and existence itself is something, in our case, the Brahmin. The cycle of reincarnation almost exactly mirrors the transfer of energy from the Sun (considered part of the greater universe, or the Brahmin) to plants, to animals, to decomposers like bacteria and mushrooms, back to plants, to animals, and so on. When one dies, they do not simply disappear, their body sources another beings life

[Kowani]

Yes! Science cannot explain what happens to your consciousness when you die,

It…ceases to exist?

or why the laws of physics are what they are.

You ever heard of the Allegory of the Puddle?

You need religion to answer those.

Nope.

[Ayytaly]

Yes, as long as religion accepts the fact that science > myth when talking the real world.

Good and evil are a myth religion keeps pushing down the masses' throat.


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[Risottia]

Yes! Science cannot explain what happens to your consciousness when you die,

It can explain it perfectly well.
Consciousness ceases to be when the brain dies.

or why the laws of physics are what they are. You need religion to answer those.

Actually one could use philosophy here.

[Shia Kin]

Of course they can. Science explains how things happen, but religion often tries to answer why.

Yes!

[Risottia]

Yes, as long as religion accepts the fact that science > myth when talking the real world.

Good and evil are a myth religion keeps pushing down the masses' throat.

Actually, that depends on how one defines "good" and "evil". There's plenty of ethics to read. I would suggest starting with good ol' Immanuel Kant.

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[Kowani]

Ayn Rand Objectivism and SCIENCE BFFs

I’m an egoist and I think objectivism is ridiculous.

[Christian Confederation]

Yes! As a Christian, I do believe that science is a great way for us to understand the World that God created. Personally, I don't buy into the whole "God created the World in 7 days" as a literal expression, but rather the 7 days represents the millions of years it took for Earth to form and the massive amounts of time for the Universe to form. Science is a way we can come to understand Earth and all the creatures that inhabit the planet.

Generally speaking, I think religion and science can go hand-in-hand for us to understand God and how God made the universe.

Wow you took the words out of my mouth.

[Valrifell]

Yes! 1) Science cannot explain what happens to your consciousness when you die, or 2) why the laws of physics are what they are. You need religion to answer those.

1) Consciousness is an emergent property of various processes going on in the brain (very complicated, no clear answer on how that works) so it follows that if the brain no longer functions, neither do you. So, after you die, nothing happens.

2) The laws of physics are based on experimentally observed properties of the universe, asking why the universe works this way is just an odd question. The answer is that is has to, or else we wouldn't be able to determine that it does work this way.

[Czechostan]

Actually, that depends on how one defines "good" and "evil". There's plenty of ethics to read. I would suggest starting with good ol' Immanuel Kant.

Telling someone to start learning about ethics by reading Kant is like telling someone to start learning how to snowboard by going down a black diamond slope.

[Ayytaly]

Good and evil are a myth religion keeps pushing down the masses' throat.

Actually, that depends on how one defines "good" and "evil". There's plenty of ethics to read. I would suggest starting with good ol' Immanuel Kant.

Ayn Rand Objectivism and SCIENCE BFFs

Ayn Rand Objectivism is the Scientology of Ethics.

Kant is dead. So is Rand, but Rand accepted death whereas Kant tried to hide Man's true nature as a mere animal with instinct to kill, fuck, and hunt. Good and evil are exaggerations on one's instinct to survive.